Duckwater 0 #1 September 12, 2005 Shouldn't Bush be impeached for picking him? -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #2 September 12, 2005 Why? Isn't it normal to let other heads roll if the leader fails? Perhaps GWB believes, he's looking better now ... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #3 September 12, 2005 I think Bush is a lousy president most of the time, who is very careful to only check on information that supports what he wants to do anyway. That would be his greatest weakness, the lack of interest in contrary viewpoints or intelligent debate (as far as I and many others can see at least). If he does listen to them, he does not address them in speeches or material. "they lost, they don't count, they should get over it." That said, no, he should not be impeached for appointing someone unqualified to head FEMA. It's come back to bite him bigtime, and will hurt his longterm reputation. That's plenty, because his "legacy" is important to him. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #4 September 12, 2005 >Shouldn't Bush be impeached for picking him? No. He screwed up and made a bad decision. You don't impeach people for making bad decisions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckwater 0 #5 September 12, 2005 Well.....I liken that 'bad decision' to picking Michael Jackson to teach at the Daycare center. This guy had NO qualifications. He should have been Ambassador to Fiji or something. -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #6 September 12, 2005 >I liken that 'bad decision' to picking Michael Jackson to teach at the Daycare center. Right, but like I said, stupidity is not an impeachable offense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #7 September 12, 2005 QuoteWell.....I liken that 'bad decision' to picking Michael Jackson to teach at the Daycare center. This guy had NO qualifications. He should have been Ambassador to Fiji or something. -- Probably not the best choice for FEMA director but I'm sure he had more qualifications than your over-generalized statement suggests. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #8 September 12, 2005 QuoteProbably not the best choice for FEMA director but I'm sure he had more qualifications than your over-generalized statement suggests. Problem is, non of the qualifications had anything to do with emergency management. The one that did turned out to be false. I would assume they do some background checks on the guy who is going to head FEMA. Some one only saw what they wanted to see...sounds aweful familiar..... Edited to add: The real question is: do you think Bush would ever admit that it was a mistake to appoint brown? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #9 September 12, 2005 QuoteProblem is, non of the qualifications had anything to do with emergency management. The one that did turned out to be false. I would assume they do some background checks on the guy who is going to head FEMA. Some one only saw what they wanted to see...sounds aweful familiar..... Didn't he manage the situation of all the hurricanes that hit Florida last year? A few of those were pretty damn big and disastrous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shotgun 1 #10 September 12, 2005 QuoteShouldn't Bush be impeached for picking him? No, but he should get a blowjob from him and then lie about it under oath... and then he should be impeached. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #11 September 12, 2005 Quote>I liken that 'bad decision' to picking Michael Jackson to teach at the Daycare center. Right, but like I said, stupidity is not an impeachable offense. I like the old Japanese and Roman ways of dealing with leaders who screwed up (through stupidity or whatever). It encourages leaders to get good intel, and to appoint good subordinates.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #12 September 12, 2005 yeah looks like he even gave $30 million to residents of an area that wasn't even hit by a hurricane. The president's name is Bush, the Governor of Florida is a Bush and he is a Bush appointee. Looks like he failed his first real test.... (plus you would think that if he had the hurricane practice in Florida he would have learned from that...) But, I also agree that Brown will be used as the fall guy for the federal government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #13 September 12, 2005 QuoteEdited to add: The real question is: do you think Bush would ever admit that it was a mistake to appoint brown? I think he pretty much just did by having the Homeland Security Director take him off the Louisianna gig. Think Bush had any influence in that decision? I think so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #14 September 12, 2005 Quote(plus you would think that if he had the hurricane practice in Florida he would have learned from that...) This one was the biggest in our recorded history, correct? Kind of hard to plan accurately for something you've never faced before. I think it could have been handled a lot better but I'd also cut them a little slack instead of going into a Bush feeding frenzy. Besides, that Louisianna Governor (Democrat) had plans in place which failed b/c he didn't follow them accurately. Think he'll be fired? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #15 September 12, 2005 QuoteQuote(plus you would think that if he had the hurricane practice in Florida he would have learned from that...) This one was the biggest in our recorded history, correct? Kind of hard to plan accurately for something you've never faced before. Depends what you mean. The Labor Day hurricane of 1935, Camille, and Andrew were all CAT5. Katrina was only a CAT4, like Charley. Katrina covered a very large area.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #16 September 12, 2005 QuoteDepends what you mean. The Labor Day hurricane of 1935, Camille, and Andrew were all CAT5. Katrina was only a CAT4, like Charley. Katrina covered a very large area. Ok... Based on damage caused. Am I wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #17 September 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteDepends what you mean. The Labor Day hurricane of 1935, Camille, and Andrew were all CAT5. Katrina was only a CAT4, like Charley. Katrina covered a very large area. Ok... Based on damage caused. Am I wrong? One might argue that had the levees been strengthened in accordance with the engineering study recommendations, the damage caused would have been much less. Most of the damage to NO occurred long after Katrina had passed by. No doubt the diversion of resources to other priorities will form part of the commission report.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lummy 4 #18 September 12, 2005 QuoteBesides, that Louisianna Governor (Democrat) had plans in place which failed b/c he didn't follow them accurately. Think he'll be fired? What's the reason for pointing out the governor is a Democrat? would it have made a difference if the Governor was a Republican? Oh and BTW, the Louisiana Governor is Kathleen Blanco, a woman.I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. I promise not to TP Davis under canopy.. eat sushi, get smoochieTTK#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #19 September 12, 2005 QuoteQuoteBesides, that Louisianna Governor (Democrat) had plans in place which failed b/c he didn't follow them accurately. Think he'll be fired? What's the reason for pointing out the governor is a Democrat? would it have made a difference if the Governor was a Republican? Oh and BTW, the Louisiana Governor is Kathleen Blanco, a woman. Don't be sexist!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #20 September 12, 2005 QuoteThis one was the biggest in our recorded history, correct? Kind of hard to plan accurately for something you've never faced before. I think it could have been handled a lot better but I'd also cut them a little slack instead of going into a Bush feeding frenzy. Besides, that Louisianna Governor (Democrat) had plans in place which failed b/c he didn't follow them accurately. Think he'll be fired? I think mistakes were made at all levels of government. I don't think a governor can get fired? Can they? If she is elligable for re-election, I guess time will tell if she gets "fired" or not. She did however realize, before the hurricane hit, that she was out of her league, needed help and asked for it on the 27th of August. It just took brownie a little while to figure out there were people stranded in the convention centre. Which is very easy to do, I mean not even the media had reported it at all.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #21 September 12, 2005 QuoteWhat's the reason for pointing out the governor is a Democrat? would it have made a difference if the Governor was a Republican? Oh and BTW, the Louisiana Governor is Kathleen Blanco, a woman. It wouldn't matter at all. I just sense the Democrat sharks circling Bush and thought I'd point that out. Am I wrong. It would be f$%%ed up at the State level no matter what party you belonged to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #22 September 12, 2005 QuoteI don't think a governor can get fired? Can they? Work with me here, man. Won't get reelected...fired... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #23 September 12, 2005 I think I went on to say that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #24 September 12, 2005 Kathleen Blanco, Micheal Brown, and GW Bush are touring the hurricane damage by air, when their chopper loses a rotor and crashes in the gulf. Who does God save? The denizens of New Orleans. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #25 September 12, 2005 Defend Bush all you want; it still happened under his watch. His political capital is vastly diminished at a point in his mandate where it will be very hard if not impossible to regain. Mid-term election season begins in earnest in about four months. If bush has not bounced back enough to be an asset to GOP candidates by then, he will have effectively begun his lame duck phase very early. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
