Just heard about this in the news

[kallend 2,148]

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I tend to side with the letter of the law rather than what the European opinion of the week is. I believe in personal, rather than civic responsibility and strongly agree with the Supreme Court's opinion in Madison vs. Marbury that "...that an act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is void."

I'd never make it past the confirmation hearings... the Dems would be howling in the halls for my blood...

So what is "the letter of the law" regarding the meaning of general welfare"?

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[Gawain 0]

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For every euro that is spent in humanitary tasks there are ten being spent in weapons.
What do people think about this? Am I the only one who feels shame on myself?

aside from the fun of mocking you, why take this statement at face value? What shallow definitions of humanitarian and military were used to derive the 1:10 ratio?

Why would you think the numbers are inaccurate? have you actually looked at the size of the military budget in the USA?

Why yes I have. And according to this chart (attached, showing FY01 actual through FY04 Budgeted), HHS has a larger budget than DoD. Hmmm.

Add Social Security payments (off budget), and it's more than double DoD. Hmmmm.

Now, considering that the US spends approximately 3.3% of it's GDP on Defense, and most of the EU big players (UK 2.4%, France 2.6%, Germany 1.5%) spend less on much smaller GDPs, I don't see this original Euro argument holding water either.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[kallend 2,148]

I wouldn't classify social security payments as "humanitarian", nor much of the expenditure on public health services in HSS.

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I wouldn't classify social security payments as "humanitarian", nor much of the expenditure on public health services in HSS.

Either way, it's long been the practice in this country to spend more in services and entitlements than any other single budgeted item. Whether or not that falls into "humanitarian" is tough to call. But I bet if we look deep enough, the actual numbers (public and private) spent by this country in humanitarian aid is close to, or may even exceed the DoD budget. The numbers might surprise us.

So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!

[Gravitymaster 0]

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So you think that the interesting part of my post is where the info comes from. Listen , from the news!
And why shouldnt I take as valid? I think it has a lot of sense if you think in all those budgets dedicated to weapons around the world.
And now lets touch the sensible fibers, all that money that the us has spent in weapons was it sefull in a situation like katrinas disaster?. People needed water food, doctors, and they didnt get anything of that . Maybe it is because we spend ten euros in weapons and 1 in caring for the people

Government has no obligation to take care of people in the sense of providing subsistence. It does however, have an obligation to protect.

It has an obligation to provide for the "general welfare"

Welfare is just a made up name made to fit a cause and to give justification to womb to the tombers. The Welfare you refer to used to be called the "Dole". Providing an Army to protect people would be a better example of providing for the General Welfare than using the Constitution to justify socialism.

[rehmwa 2]

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Not as many as those ones that feel shame on u my dear friend. I was asking for your thoughts your opinion and reflections. If that is the only you can squeeze to get out of your hollow head , good for u!

I was playing a word game with you only. Playful in intent only. But since you want to be insulting (insulting, insulting, insulting - sorry, it's my hollow head echoing - glad to get the rocks and sand out actually, gives it a nice tone when hit with a mallet really) here's a more defined reply:

Post something with a bit of substance, the original post was fishing for uninformed outrage on the ratio of spending for non-related budget requirements, not opinions and reflections. Worthy of a good college freshman Debate 101 offering or a political candidate appealing to the 'masses'. Yet you are surprised when you get mocked for it? You can do better - this crowd can handle better.

I could just cry that 10:1 is unfair without a real reason other than my emotional response to whatever you define as real or perceived "humanitarian" causes. That would be as easy (and irresponsible) as a quick jab for the fun of it, but you'd take that response as a "real" one even though it would be worth even less since it would have no entertainment factor whatsoever.

Stop pitching softballs and you'll have a lot more fun.

Edit: The original post was termed in Euros, rather than dollars. So why is everybody speaking to the US budget rather than the European collection?

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For every euro that is spent in humanitary tasks there are ten being spent in weapons.

By who? Europe/US/The West/The World/Other?

[Channman 2]

Thats what I like about Walt. Puts it in simple terms.

I was thinking about the Barrett 50 Cal but the ammo is alittle expensive, maybe I should stay with the 308 round.

And if we all went in together could we save by buying in bulk?

[Channman 2]

>...the Dems would be howling in the halls for my blood...

Kind of like a pack of wild dogs...