ViperPilot 0 #101 September 4, 2005 QuoteMabey he had it through work then, and then when his job moved to mexico so did his coverage leaving him between a rock and a hard place True...if that is the actual case, well then I suppose it is just a case of someone getting screwed. However, bad things happen every day, it's not the President's fault that bad things happen such as this. The situation is a tragedy, but it's not Bush's fault that insurance companies reject him (assuming the above situation you mentioned is true). QuoteIt's those that truely take handouts and just think that's how it should be as they dont do shit that piss me off. Well, that's how I took it at first (before his post about medicaid, job moving to mexico, etc). He didn't explain his situation completely in the first post, so it really sounded like what you just said (quote), hence my original accusation of sitting on his ass and expecting handouts...like WAY TOO MANY people in this country. As shitty as the situation is, well, that's the healthcare system. Like you said, it sucks for some, is good for others, and the other way would be the same situation. However, we all know how the system works in America, so if it's so bad, get out and go to a different healthcare system, don't just sit here and complain when it doesn't go your way. I still stand by that. Plus, the title of the thread is "blame Bush." Well, he would still be getting screwed right now if Kerry was in office. So, it's the system and not the President. That's the point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #102 September 4, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhoa, just found this on the DrudgeReport: Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00 'The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating'... I sure am happy that the state did it's part, in accordance with its own disaster plan, very evident by that picture of all those buses flooded out in that parking lot. I guess that bush and the federal gov't should have been there to make sure those plans were executed by the state like they should have been? If the Federal Govt. isn't going to be expected to play a part when a major multi-state disaster occurs, please may I have my federal tax dollars back that supported FEMA and DHS? I rather send the money to my city and state. Thank you.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Everon 0 #103 September 4, 2005 The fact is, plenty of entities knew that the levees would not withstand a cat 4. The white house, FEMA, state and local governments all knew. Some congressmen were pushing for much better funding to ensure NO wouldn't become part of the gulf. (Bush's dismal budget proposals were always upped by congress, and it was still woefully short of the needed amount to get it done in a timely manner). But the bottom line is why did none of these entities say "GET OUT NOW, THE LEVEES WILL BE BREACHEAD, YOU ARE LIKELY TO BE KILLED!" Perhaps this would have saved many more lives. IMO, they are all to blame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #104 September 4, 2005 ***tongue planted firmly in cheek*** Maybe they all knew the danger...and NO was supposed to take a direct cat 5 hit...maybe they figured....no souls no problem. I mean, there wouldnt be anyone there to complain about it. AND they wouldnt have to worry about sending in aid...maybe that was their plan the whole time....hmm...its a theory. **Not meant as a serious position on the topic**Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heidihagen 0 #105 September 4, 2005 QuoteBut the bottom line is why did none of these entities say "GET OUT NOW, THE LEVEES WILL BE BREACHEAD, YOU ARE LIKELY TO BE KILLED!" Perhaps this would have saved many more lives. IMO, they are all to blame. i'm with ya. nagin issued a warning, but who knows how how he said it or when. if he said it that night, well.. good luck actually making it out. it's the babies, students, elderly, and 9th ward families for one reason or another couldn't evacute.... that's what hurts. or maybe they didn't want to. i don't know.... but the babies in icu, i'm pretty sure about. QuoteCalling it a once-in-a-lifetime storm, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin had issued a mandatory evacuation order as Katrina drew near. But the doomsday vision of hurricane waters spilling over levees and swamping the city in a toxic soup of refinery chemicals, sewage and human bodies never materialized. from http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/12501459.htm things would have gone a LOT smoother if nagin had a plan. his plan? pointing fingers and crying "help" like the rest. some leader. i'm not impressed with their mayor at all. the levees should have been able stand a cat4 hurricane... no, make that a cat5. four years ago, after allison flooded Houston, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) report argued that the odds of a catastrophic New Orleans hurricane are similar in likelihood and in tragedy to a major terrorist attack on new york. History repeats itself. we've got a bureaucracy doing its job, identifying risks, and being ignored by the rest of the country. So there's the biggest screw-up: simply ignoring the reports coming out of FEMA.i didn't lose my mind, i sold it on ebay. .:need a container to fit 5'4", 110 lb. cypres ready & able to fit a 170 main (or slightly smaller):.[/ce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
