Mike111 0 #26 September 2, 2005 Well illget stick for this ... but oh well. 300 over 6-7 years being Pres equals about 42 days each year ROUGHlY. Given the fact he probably only gets 4 hours sleep a night and is working in a very hard time which either you nor I can fully appreciate ,then that seems fair. Would you want a run down president who can't think properly? some obviously think that is way to much, but IMHO its adequate. Anymore than that would be excessive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,099 #27 September 2, 2005 >the President is never on vacation. He may not be in the white >house, but it's a full time job. As he is often photographed clearing brush and whatnot (and since he makes a big deal of that) I don't believe it's a full time job. I would believe part-time though. I still give him credit for cutting his vacation/telecommute/whatever short and returning to DC (and going to LA.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #28 September 2, 2005 Quote>the President is never on vacation. He may not be in the white >house, but it's a full time job. As he is often photographed clearing brush and whatnot (and since he makes a big deal of that) I don't believe it's a full time job. I would believe part-time though. I still give him credit for cutting his vacation/telecommute/whatever short and returning to DC (and going to LA.) From the footage of him cutting the brush and the like, I would consider him more of a doctor who is on call on his vacations. You can say it is a working holiday, but meeting with Lance Armstrong for a fun frolic and bike ride, clearing brush and doing other yard work is not working for his job. It is waiting around for something to happen.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #29 September 2, 2005 Quotelost my health care and I have a terminal illness, I have zero care now thanks to this administration This is a capitalist society, not a socialist one. It's your duty to get off your ass, work, and pay for health insurance/care or find a company that provides it. Even Big O Tires provides health insurance. Sorry, but you need to stop expecting handouts from the government and make things happen on your own. Sorry about your illness, I do truely hope you can find a way to help yourself, however don't expect others to do it for you, you gotta push yourself. So, in short, it's not the President's fault you don't have health insurance, it's your lack of proactiveness. And as mentioned before, people can't predict wx like you want them to, even a president. So once again, it's not the President's fault that Katrina came ashore and destroyed a ton of stuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #30 September 2, 2005 Quotebut meeting with Lance Armstrong for a fun frolic and bike ride, clearing brush and doing other yard work is not working for his job Why do so many people (not just you GTA) have such unrealistic expectations of a human being? You expect Bush to work 24/7/365...IMPOSSIBLE. He needs rest, just like you, me and everyone other living thing on Earth. So, based on your opinion, we're all lazy asses because we come home at night and take off the boots for a while, or GASP, take time away. If you don't do those things, your body won't recharge and you're doomed. To be physically and mentally healthy, you need breaks, you need rest, and if that break is doing some yardwork (oh by the way, the SAME yardwork that all of us "lazy asses" do...how dare us), then so be it. I don't want Bush sitting in the Oval Office barely able to stay awake. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,577 #31 September 2, 2005 In his case, I believe his terminal illness caused him to lose the job that had health benefits. Where is he going to find a new employer who is willing to take someone who is likely to take more sick time than most, and who is guaranteed to cost a lot in health costs? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,142 #32 September 2, 2005 Quote*** I don't want Bush sitting in the Oval Office barely able to stay awake. I'd rather he slept 23 hours a day.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #33 September 2, 2005 QuoteQuote*** I don't want Bush sitting in the Oval Office barely able to stay awake. I'd rather he slept 23 hours a day. I'd like it if all politicians did that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #34 September 2, 2005 Again, it's a capitalist society...if he can't get a normal job and work to pay health insurance, well then short of getting some kind of institute to help him, he's screwed. I'm saying that instead of sitting on his ass at home and complaining about how Bush screwed him, he could go out and bust his ass to find a job and thus be able to afford health insurance. I have no sympathy for the sluggish who just complain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #35 September 2, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote*** I don't want Bush sitting in the Oval Office barely able to stay awake. I'd rather he slept 23 hours a day. I'd like it if all politicians did that. I third that notion. Unfortunately we are stuck. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,142 #36 September 2, 2005 QuoteAgain, it's a capitalist society...if he can't get a normal job and work to pay health insurance, well then short of getting some kind of institute to help him, he's screwed. I'm saying that instead of sitting on his ass at home and complaining about how Bush screwed him, he could go out and bust his ass to find a job and thus be able to afford health insurance. I have no sympathy for the sluggish who just complain. Whatever happened to "Compassionate Conservatism"?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #37 September 2, 2005 QuoteQuotebut meeting with Lance Armstrong for a fun frolic and bike ride, clearing brush and doing other yard work is not working for his job Why do so many people (not just you GTA) have such unrealistic expectations of a human being? You expect Bush to work 24/7/365...IMPOSSIBLE. He needs rest, just like you, me and everyone other living thing on Earth. So, based on your opinion, we're all lazy asses because we come home at night and take off the boots for a while, or GASP, take time away. If you don't do those things, your body won't recharge and you're doomed. To be physically and mentally healthy, you need breaks, you need rest, and if that break is doing some yardwork (oh by the way, the SAME yardwork that all of us "lazy asses" do...how dare us), then so be it. I don't want Bush sitting in the Oval Office barely able to stay awake. I have no problem with people taking vacations (even presidents). However, if not for this Hurricane, Bush's FIVE WEEK vacation would have been the longest in QUITE some time: "According to an Associated Press count, Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his eight-year presidency -- a total that Bush will surpass this month in Crawford with 3 1/2 years left in his second term." I DO have a job and I don't get NEAR that amount of time off. In fact, people all over the country do jobs that are harder physically and mentally than mine and THEY don't get as much time off as me. Yet, somehow, they survive. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,099 #38 September 2, 2005 >He needs rest, just like you, me and everyone other living thing on > Earth. So, based on your opinion, we're all lazy asses because we > come home at night and take off the boots for a while, or GASP, > take time away. Hmm. Apparently I'm some kind of superman, then, because I can be on call 24/7 for months on end - and I still only get 20 days of vacation a year. And I can even manage to not sleep through the day! Managing your time so you get enough sleep and whatnot is something most people have no problems with. Amy spent three years in a residency, working an average of 100 hours a week, often 36 hours straight, and barely got _weekends_ off, much less 50 days a year. And falling asleep at a desk is less of a big deal than falling asleep while installing a total hip no matter whose desk it is. So I have zero sympathy when someone says "oh, he needs his time off, the poor overworked guy." He's the president of the US; he can do whatever he wants when it comes to time off. If he took lots of time off and the country was well-prepared to meet the needs of its citizens during crises, no one would bat an eye. But it looks like perhaps some people (not just the president) took a little too much time off before this disaster. Being sleepy doesn't fly with the other people who weren't prepared, and it doesn't fly with him either. Again, take whatever time off you want. But for god's sake get the job done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #39 September 2, 2005 and you also get weekends, holidays etc. How many hours a week do you work? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #40 September 2, 2005 Yeah. Check out this a-hole who just redefined the term fucktard for me: clicky Some people hate GWB so badly they'll blame him for anything. Disgusting. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,142 #41 September 2, 2005 QuoteYeah. Check out this a-hole who just redefined the term fucktard for me: clicky Some people hate GWB so badly they'll blame him for anything. Disgusting. You've seen the light at last. Pity it took a disaster for you to realize how "W" has bungled the economy, raised poverty, taken us into record debt, taken us into a misadventure of a war under false pretenses, bungled the management of that war, diverted much needed funds from infrastructure to run his war, created a cabinet level office of "security" with a huge budget that has performed miserably in its first test, etc, etc.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #42 September 2, 2005 Kallend, do you have software that prepares your rants? Something like WhineGenerator 3.1? FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #43 September 2, 2005 Bungled the economy, Kallend? As compared to the Clnton-Gore recession he inherited? Whatever makes you say that? What data are you using to found this funds diversion from infrastructure? Did all of the infrastructure go to hell in the last five years? Was it in a good state in 2000? What was the previous funding of infrastructure projects? More importantly, what makes you think the President funds anything? One would hope you realize that Congress appropriates. With regards to the management of the war, please don't give us the sKerry lie 'I would have guarded the ammo dumps' or anything of the nature. What part of the prosecution do you think is being bungled? What unit is poorly placed? What additional things would you do? Would you change the rules of engagement at all? How would you go about doing things differently? Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,142 #44 September 2, 2005 QuoteBungled the economy, Kallend? As compared to the Clnton-Gore recession he inherited? Whatever makes you say that? Just government data, that's all. www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8CABQSO0.htm?campaign_id=apn_home_down&chan=db www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=48848; www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=48864;... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,142 #45 September 2, 2005 QuoteKallend, do you have software that prepares your rants? Something like WhineGenerator 3.1? You'd rather I parrot Ann Coulter like the righties around here?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #46 September 2, 2005 Yeah, right. Here ya go: Bush is to blame for Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #47 September 2, 2005 Quoteits not a defence at all, you assume it is. But you invoke Clinton's name with no prior mention of it, Quotegood things? Clinton did nothing - he was a people pleaser. At least Bush is prepared taking Bill, making him look bad, and following with "at least Bush"... Clinton as a "do-nothing" president is your defense for Bush as a good president. More WEAK ex-dem-prez-bashing from the right. Please be original. QuoteI think Bush would do very well in a busines Obviously you haven't seen his resume. The businesses he's owned have turned to sh.t. You're don't expose yourself to a whole lot of information or ask a lot of questions it seems. No wonder why you like Bush. And you're exactly the kind of voter he likes. QuoteWould you want a run down president who can't think properly He doesn't think straight to begin with. I want to ask you a question that I've asked other repugs here: Given this exact performance to a democratic president in the last two terms, same events, results, actions... would you be complaining? ---HELL YEAH. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #48 September 2, 2005 Quoteand I still only get 20 days of vacation a year. Get a better job. I work for joe-shmo medium size corporation and, including weekends and holidays, get about 55 days a year. I will even up with Bush yet! . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #49 September 3, 2005 QuoteYou'd rather I parrot Ann Coulter like the righties around here? I'd rather see a thoughtful, intelligent and perhaps unique contribution from someone with your credentials. We need not agree, but trading platitudes is a tiresome endeavor. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burbleflyer 0 #50 September 3, 2005 Holy crap. You guys that hate GW oughta step back a bit. Hating is bad, mmmk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites