JohnRich 4 #76 September 7, 2005 QuoteI fear inanimate objects in the hands of millions of people that maybe dont know what they are doing. Oh, like cars? They are used to kill 40,000 people per year in the U.S. That's about four times the number murdered by people using guns. You should fear cars more than guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #77 September 8, 2005 Bull shit. Open carry is legal in LA. To carry Concealed, you have to register with the state police, and take and pass a class/course. The permit is only good for 4 years. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #78 September 8, 2005 Your car is considered a extention of your home, you can carry a legally owned firearm any way you choose inside the confinement of your house or car. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #79 September 8, 2005 QuoteBull shit. Open carry is legal in LA. To carry Concealed, you have to register with the state police, and take and pass a class/course. The permit is only good for 4 years. __________________________________________________ Permit? You are asking for *permission* from the government to protect yourself in any manner you deem fit? You are asking a government to *permit* you to exercise your rights as a Freeman? Listen Anvilbrother, if you were born a Freeman you have a Right to do what ever you want as long as you don't infringe on the Rights of others. The government may or may not be there to take care of you when crisis arises. Look at their pitiful response to Katrina. You have a Natural Right to carry firearms openly or concealed. Now I know a group of men believe they can tell you otherwise. Were they born * more* than you? Will you allow other men to deny you your Rights? Here is where it gets tricky. Some men(governments) will create laws which deny you your Natural Rights. In other words, by exercising your Rights you will be an "outlaw". Every one of our Founding Fathers was also an outlaw. It takes balls to live Free and today only outlaws are trully Freemen. Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #80 September 8, 2005 I am in Law Enforcement as well as other jobs here in baton rouge, I am well aware of our rights, and the law..... I dont make up the laws, I just try to change the ones that I don't like if I can by how I vote, and go on with my life. QuoteLook at their pitiful response to Katrina We were in New Orleans the day after the hurricane rescuing people. You and others need to realize, that not all forms of government were not prepared for the storm. We were ready to go days in advance. Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #81 September 8, 2005 QuoteI am in Law Enforcement as well as other jobs here in baton rouge, I am well aware of our rights, and the law..... __________________________________________________ In that case you must be aware of how the law conflicts with the Natural Rights of Man. You must be aware that any law enacted by government which deny a Freeman his Rights are *morally* unenforceable. Do you , constable Anvilbrother,personally enforce concealed carry law in your jurisdiction? _________________________________________________ I dont make up the laws, I just try to change the ones that I don't like if I can by how I vote, and go on with my life. __________________________________________________ Yes, Hitlers' Henchmen didn't make the laws either. They simply enforced them. Just a job ..nothin' personal. I just make my living in a manner which tramples the Rights of others. __________________________________________________ QuoteLook at their pitiful response to Katrina We were in New Orleans the day after the hurricane rescuing people. ________________________________________________ Can you guarantee ,Officer Anvilbrother, that you will be there everytime a citizen is engaged by violent criminals? If not how do you rationalize your enforcement of CClaws? Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #82 September 8, 2005 Lucia, Exactly where in Spain do you live? Ya say noone there has any guns? It sounds like a perfect place. Me and my buddies will be visiting soon. Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lucia 0 #83 September 8, 2005 Hey, I live in Madrid and work in a little town 1 hour from madrid in a dropzone. You are more than welcome! But remember dont bring your guns!Lucy in the Sky http:\\www.skydivelillo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #84 September 8, 2005 QuoteYour car is considered a extention of your home, you can carry a legally owned firearm any way you choose inside the confinement of your house or car. Incorrect. That varys widely by state. Such a blanket statement is dangerous to anyone who acts upon it. You're going to get someone arrested dispensing such advice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Anvilbrother 0 #85 September 8, 2005 No it was a reply to your or someones question about the law in Louisiana. Sorry about the confusion that does apply to Louisiana Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kbordson 8 #86 September 8, 2005 QuoteQuoteYour car is considered a extention of your home, you can carry a legally owned firearm any way you choose inside the confinement of your house or car. Incorrect. That varys widely by state. Such a blanket statement is dangerous to anyone who acts upon it. You're going to get someone arrested dispensing such advice. You mean the cop won't buy "But officer, I read it in the Speakers Corner of Dropzone.com"? Say it isn't so!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #87 September 8, 2005 Here's an excellent example of the kind of gun control that I like. Here's another one. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kbordson 8 #88 September 9, 2005 According to the NY Times this morning, prior to a forced evacuation of New Orleans, the government is removing the firearms of the local inhabitants. Despite surviving the hurricaine, and the aftermath and making a decision to remain in New Orleans now when it's "less" dangerous, the government has decreeded that all must leave. No vote, not by the people and not that the press has mentioned by the representatives of the people. Just an evacuation notice. And to enforce this, they know that first they have to remove the peoples ablitity to resist this decree.... thus remove the right to bear arms. Then you can make them do anything you want. Issues: Representation/vote over evacuation. Decision of government to remove firearms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,146 #89 September 9, 2005 QuoteAccording to the NY Times this morning, prior to a forced evacuation of New Orleans, the government is removing the firearms of the local inhabitants. Despite surviving the hurricaine, and the aftermath and making a decision to remain in New Orleans now when it's "less" dangerous, the government has decreeded that all must leave. No vote, not by the people and not that the press has mentioned by the representatives of the people. Just an evacuation notice. And to enforce this, they know that first they have to remove the peoples ablitity to resist this decree.... thus remove the right to bear arms. Then you can make them do anything you want. Issues: Representation/vote over evacuation. Decision of government to remove firearms. First complain about the holdouts, then complain that the holdouts are being removed. Some are never satisfied.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kbordson 8 #90 September 9, 2005 I was not complaining about the holdouts. If those people are choosing to stay, despite the risks, they should be able to stay. But they should take responsibility for that decision and not be demanding immediate rescuing if things go poorly. But... if they are staying, they do need some form of protection (not just from peoples, but the critters that come out with this unsanitary conditions) I am annoyed by the government trying to 1. Forcibly remove the firearms 2. Forcibly remove the peoples from their house - all without proper vote or voice. Karen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 4 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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eaglenrider 0 #82 September 8, 2005 Lucia, Exactly where in Spain do you live? Ya say noone there has any guns? It sounds like a perfect place. Me and my buddies will be visiting soon. Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lucia 0 #83 September 8, 2005 Hey, I live in Madrid and work in a little town 1 hour from madrid in a dropzone. You are more than welcome! But remember dont bring your guns!Lucy in the Sky http:\\www.skydivelillo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #84 September 8, 2005 QuoteYour car is considered a extention of your home, you can carry a legally owned firearm any way you choose inside the confinement of your house or car. Incorrect. That varys widely by state. Such a blanket statement is dangerous to anyone who acts upon it. You're going to get someone arrested dispensing such advice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anvilbrother 0 #85 September 8, 2005 No it was a reply to your or someones question about the law in Louisiana. Sorry about the confusion that does apply to Louisiana Postes r made from an iPad or iPhone. Spelling and gramhair mistakes guaranteed move along, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #86 September 8, 2005 QuoteQuoteYour car is considered a extention of your home, you can carry a legally owned firearm any way you choose inside the confinement of your house or car. Incorrect. That varys widely by state. Such a blanket statement is dangerous to anyone who acts upon it. You're going to get someone arrested dispensing such advice. You mean the cop won't buy "But officer, I read it in the Speakers Corner of Dropzone.com"? Say it isn't so!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #87 September 8, 2005 Here's an excellent example of the kind of gun control that I like. Here's another one. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #88 September 9, 2005 According to the NY Times this morning, prior to a forced evacuation of New Orleans, the government is removing the firearms of the local inhabitants. Despite surviving the hurricaine, and the aftermath and making a decision to remain in New Orleans now when it's "less" dangerous, the government has decreeded that all must leave. No vote, not by the people and not that the press has mentioned by the representatives of the people. Just an evacuation notice. And to enforce this, they know that first they have to remove the peoples ablitity to resist this decree.... thus remove the right to bear arms. Then you can make them do anything you want. Issues: Representation/vote over evacuation. Decision of government to remove firearms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #89 September 9, 2005 QuoteAccording to the NY Times this morning, prior to a forced evacuation of New Orleans, the government is removing the firearms of the local inhabitants. Despite surviving the hurricaine, and the aftermath and making a decision to remain in New Orleans now when it's "less" dangerous, the government has decreeded that all must leave. No vote, not by the people and not that the press has mentioned by the representatives of the people. Just an evacuation notice. And to enforce this, they know that first they have to remove the peoples ablitity to resist this decree.... thus remove the right to bear arms. Then you can make them do anything you want. Issues: Representation/vote over evacuation. Decision of government to remove firearms. First complain about the holdouts, then complain that the holdouts are being removed. Some are never satisfied.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #90 September 9, 2005 I was not complaining about the holdouts. If those people are choosing to stay, despite the risks, they should be able to stay. But they should take responsibility for that decision and not be demanding immediate rescuing if things go poorly. But... if they are staying, they do need some form of protection (not just from peoples, but the critters that come out with this unsanitary conditions) I am annoyed by the government trying to 1. Forcibly remove the firearms 2. Forcibly remove the peoples from their house - all without proper vote or voice. Karen Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
