Should NO be rebuilt?

[kallend 2,138]

Given that sea levels are rising and are going to continue to rise nsidc.org/sotc/sea_level.html, does it make sense to (re)build a major city below sea level on a coast subject to periodic hurricanes and storm surges?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[markd_nscr986 0]

No,it doesnt make sense to rebuild it..........but it will be rebuilt regardless

Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004

[Gravitymaster 0]

I'm starting to think it's not a good idea to rebuild. Not only because of the apparent warming cycle the earth is going thru, but also because of the cost if there is a repeat of this disaster. I'm wondering if having cities in high risk areas is as important as it was 100 years ago, given todays technologies.

[MattM 0]

Build it up with dirt. Wasn't Boston undersea level but was filled and built on top of it?

Matt

[kallend 2,138]

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Build it up with dirt. Wasn't Boston undersea level but was filled and built on top of it?

From the behavior I see on TV, it's already full of dirt.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[dbattman 0]

Turn it into the National Wildlife Mosquito Preserve.

[billvon 3,098]

Let em rebuild - just make them all sign a multi-page waiver that they have to initial in ten places that has the following provisions:

1. I realize I am building a house below sea level, and that the sea will eventually come back and try to drown me. [initial here]

2. I hereby forfeit any expectation of state or federal assistance when the sea does come back, including rescue, flood mitigation, federally backed insurance or disaster area funding. [initial here]

3. I further agree to pay any court costs due to any legal action initiated by myself, my representatives or my family. [initial here]

4. I really read the paragraphs above and did not just initial them to get to build a house. [initial here]

5. I can read and I understand the above. [don't initial here] [don't initial here either] [initial here.]

[TheAnvil 0]

I like line item #5.

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[TheAnvil 0]

I've been asking myself that same question, John, and haven't quite answered it for myself yet. There are strong arguments against doing so.

Vinny the Anvil
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[kallend 2,138]

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Let em rebuild - just make them all sign a multi-page waiver that they have to initial in ten places that has the following provisions:

1. I realize I am building a house below sea level, and that the sea will eventually come back and try to drown me. [initial here]

2. I hereby forfeit any expectation of state or federal assistance when the sea does come back, including rescue, flood mitigation, federally backed insurance or disaster area funding. [initial here]

3. I further agree to pay any court costs due to any legal action initiated by myself, my representatives or my family. [initial here]

4. I really read the paragraphs above and did not just initial them to get to build a house. [initial here]

5. I can read and I understand the above. [don't initial here] [don't initial here either] [initial here.]

6. I understand than allowing me to build a house below sea level will be criminal negligence and this waiver will be thrown out by the court. [initial here]

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[lawrocket 3]

You know, maybe the Coastal Commission can declare NO a wetlands and not allow rebuilding there.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[tcnelson 1]

if they don't rebuild it, what will girls gone wild do during mardi gras? oh the humanity!!

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[bodypilot90 0]

leave it as is and call it New Venice

or have a network buy the whole mess for a reality show.....call it gangs gone wild

[markd_nscr986 0]

***or have a network buy the whole mess for a reality show.....call it gangs gone wild


Not a bad idea......

I was thinking maybe a really big penal colony.......something along the lines of "Escape from New York"

Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004

[Dougiefresh 0]

My buddy had an idea: rebuild it in Wyoming and call it Newer Orleans.

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. --Douglas Adams

[slug 1]

Hi John

IMO no on rebuilding NO.

The politicans are just doing what they do talking "we'll build it bigger and better".

I'm hope once they look at the cost in human life and suffering that was caused by mother nature at the present location of NO.

The $$$$ cost & time to rebuild at the same location, with the same potential losses due to mother nature, the politicians will come to the senses
and find a better place for a bigger and better NO.

R.I.P.

[shropshire 0]

Sorry, as usual, I've got more questions than answers...

Say you didn't rebuild the City, how would the land/building owners be reimbursed or if alternative locations were to be found, how would the land be obtained (wouldn't it already be owned by someone?) and financed.

Also how many other communities are in a similar situation (close or below mean sea level)?

(.)Y(.)
Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome

[Casurf1978 0]

Where though? New Orleans is key to our domestic economic market. Just look at the port of New Orleans. http://www.portno.com/facts.htm
New Orleans needs to be rebuilt. Everyone right now is having a knee jerk reaction to this catastrophe and complaining about why we build cities is dangerous areas. The reason is economics. These cities are there because we need them. If they were not economically viable they wouldnt be there.

[chutem 0]

Maybe people who live within a certain distance from an ocean should pay higher taxes than the rest of us. I'm guessing it will be a while till AZ gets flooded by a hurricane. This does not seem to stop my fed. tax dollars from rebuilding Florida over and over again.
James

[kallend 2,138]

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Maybe people who live within a certain distance from an ocean should pay higher taxes than the rest of us. I'm guessing it will be a while till AZ gets flooded by a hurricane. This does not seem to stop my fed. tax dollars from rebuilding Florida over and over again.
James

Don't whine. Arizona gets $1.23 back from the Feds for every $1.00 it send in federal taxes.

You too are feeding at the trough.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[SpeedRacer 1]

What a lot of the posters on this thread fail to realize is that quite a lot of the building of downtown New Orleans are still standing. They didn't get the full force of the hurrican, coastal Mississipi did further east. New Orleans just got flooded.

If they can eventually get the water out, most of the buildings will still be there. And the French Quarter and the southern edge of downtown (near the convention center) didn't even get flooded.

So New Orleans is still there.

Speed Racer
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[chutem 0]

Very interesting, what states have the lowest returns on their Fed. tax "investment"? Back on topic, how far under sea level is the majority of NO? Has NO ever flooded like this in the past?
James

[rhino 0]

The insurance companies are not going to pay to rebuild in the city. It just isn't smart.

[lawrocket 3]

Interesting that you are posting this from Arizona. You know, all it would take to leave you and your community ravaged in a few days is a sudden lack of ability to get water from the Colorado. Let's say something like a massive power outage that prevents the pumping stations from drawing water from reservoirs. Or a dam burst. Or some pathogen that affects the water supply. Or canals and pipes get sheared and destroyed by some other natural process.

Would people pay to put back artificial water supplies in a damned arid desert?

Your comments about the unnatural location of NO, where it subjects itself to flooding are closely parallel to where you live, only the opposite is true. Without human intervention, you'd be bone dry, dude. And human steps may fail.

If that happens, the populace may question the wisdom of establishing cities in the desert. People may say, : "Well, gee, maybe there wouldn't be so many deaths from dehydration if everybody would live where the FUCKING WATER IS! YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! AAHH! AAAHH! AAHHHHHH!"

Same issue, bud. Opposite effect, though.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[billvon 3,098]

>Very interesting, what states have the lowest returns on their Fed.
>tax "investment"?

States with the worst deals on federal taxes vs kickback:

1. New Jersey ($0.62)
2. Connecticut ($0.64)
3. New Hampshire ($0.68)
4. Nevada ($0.73)
5. Illinois ($0.77)
6. Minnesota ($0.77)
7. Colorado ($0.79)
8. Massachusetts ($0.79)
9. California ($0.81)
10. New York ($0.81)

States with the best deals:

1. D.C. ($6.17)
2. North Dakota ($2.03)
3. New Mexico ($1.89)
4. Mississippi ($1.84)
5. Alaska ($1.82)
6. West Virginia ($1.74)
7. Montana ($1.64)
8. Alabama ($1.61)
9. South Dakota ($1.59)
10. Arkansas ($1.53)

This became an issue a while back because the states that vote republican (a party that claims to be against taxes) get far more back, on average, than states that vote democratic.