kallend 2,144 #26 September 1, 2005 QuoteVery interesting, what states have the lowest returns on their Fed. tax "investment"? Back on topic, how far under sea level is the majority of NO? Has NO ever flooded like this in the past? James States in the northeast and midwest get the worst return; you know, those blue states full of liberals who want something for nothing. The highest return goes to the "red" states in the south, the ones full of "stand on your own feet" conservatives, who are actually getting something for nothing.. New Jersey is bottom of the list, with only $0.65 returned for every $1.00 of federal tax.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutem 0 #27 September 1, 2005 You make a good point there. I have many times noticed that we have to little water at the same time as other places have "more than enough". On the other hand it has been a long time since the lack of water in AZ affected the rest of the country as much as recent hurricane damage has. Did I comment on the unnatural location of NO? I asked a question about how far below sea level they are. A valid question, I thought, considering the title of the thread. A dam burst would really do me in. My buiss. is located on a lake with two dams/lakes above it. If one of those dams let go I and the buiss. would be FUBAR. James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chutem 0 #28 September 1, 2005 I guess you can't count DC, but that still leaves quite the spread between the high and low end. North Dakota gets back more than 3 times what New Jersey does per dollar paid in, wow. I guess AZ doesn't have it to tough on that one. Consider my whine on the fed tax issue dried up (as it applies here) James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,144 #29 September 2, 2005 Just saw an interview on the tv news where a woman complained about the quality of the food she's been given: MREs. Hey lady, they're saving your life, not entertaining you in the French Quarter; MREs are good enough for our troops. What a rotten whiny attitude.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #30 September 2, 2005 >Sam Kinison voice>: "Well, gee, maybe there wouldn't be so many deaths from dehydration if everybody would live where the FUCKING WATER IS! YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! AAHH! AAAHH! AAHHHHHH!" I still miss that guy! Blue fucking skies Sam! You can have it good, fast, or cheap: pick two. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NtheSeaOrSky 0 #31 September 2, 2005 AMEN to that!!!! Which part of 'shelter of last resort' sounded like 'Hilton'??????? Life is not fair and there are no guarantees... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #32 September 2, 2005 QuoteWhere though? New Orleans is key to our domestic economic market. Just look at the port of New Orleans. http://www.portno.com/facts.htm New Orleans needs to be rebuilt. Everyone right now is having a knee jerk reaction to this catastrophe and complaining about why we build cities is dangerous areas. The reason is economics. These cities are there because we need them. If they were not economically viable they wouldnt be there. Hi Casurf I'm not a expert but maybe the port can be left where it is. Folks are going to have to do some deep thinking before they decide where to rebuild the city. The damage estimtes of a Cat 5 vs a Cat 4 are out of date due to loss of wet lands and the falure to take into account the speed of the hurrican. There are two knee jerk reactions build the city and coast line bigger and better vs build it somewhere else. New orleans was located in the soup bowl a long time ago and a lot of things have happened since then, including katrina. If the city of N.O has been destroyed they still have most of the citizens and the new N.O. can be relocated in a new place and still be bigger and better than it was as long as they have the culture and spirit of their citizens. How long will it take to decide to rebuild or relocate? History will tell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
likearock 2 #33 September 2, 2005 We could always do what they did after the Galveston hurricane. Pretty costly though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #34 September 2, 2005 QuoteGiven that sea levels are rising and are going to continue to rise nsidc.org/sotc/sea_level.html, does it make sense to (re)build a major city below sea level on a coast subject to periodic hurricanes and storm surges? __________________________________________________ New Orleans is not going to be rebuilt on the same site. Blues, Cliff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #35 September 2, 2005 Sure; they should just name it Atlantis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites