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If i were in the national guard and was given the order to shoot looters on sight. I would surely question the order, and would then have to ask how do i know who to shoot. But once I figured that out i think that i would be able to do my duty to my country. Futher more i don't think that you would have to shoot people for very long, I feel like after the first 2 or 3 people got killed for looting people would respond with a HOLY SHIT...THEY WEREN'T KIDDING THIS TIME.
The point is I don't see how you can figure that out. As Bill asks, is that guy stealing generators or delivering them somewhere?
Would shooting work? Probably. But there is more than one mob of looters. If you fire on 50 of them and kill a couple innocents, is that a good enough ratio to you? And if in one of the 50, the mob returns fire?
I know where the desire/though is coming from on this idea, but I don't see how to take it from fantasy to reality. New Orleans just got fucked up and it's going to be shitty there for a while.
QuoteAnd if in one of the 50, the mob returns fire?
Return fire? These fuckers are taking the first shots. EVERY firearm from a Wal-mart is GONE! A cop has already been shot in the head by one of these poor starving people.
What about the guy who just got car-jacked?
I will not feel sorry for criminals.
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Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.
QuoteBottom line - people are going to be stealing stuff for a while in New Orleans, and you can't tell people stealing lawnmowers from people stealing generators from 1000 feet. So the sane answer is not to shoot anyone. Sure, looters are bad. Shooting innocent people is a thousand times worse. You can replace the lawnmowers.
Agreed. What also many fail to see if you shoot a looter and injure or kill that person you just added another burden to the already over taxed emergency medical systems. IMO let them loot, there are thousands of people stuck that need to be rescued. New Orleans has limited resources right now. I would rather focus on getting people out than protecting goods that can be replaced. Also how the hell are these looters going to leave the city with all the goods they stole.
QuoteAlso how the hell are these looters going to leave the city with all the goods they stole.
steal a car ? some are running. Car-jacking, wait, they already did that.
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Be kinder than necessary because everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle.
Quotesteal a car ? some are running. Car-jacking, wait, they already did that.
All entrances to the city are blocked by police and the national guard and I heard parts of the 10 to and from the city are destroyed. Its not going to be that easy.
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I will not feel sorry for criminals.
Neither would I.
I would for the fellow who has just had a bad week, and now has gotten shot on top of it.
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>EVERY firearm from a Wal-mart is GONE!
If a Wal-Mart in my neighborhood got broken into, and it had guns, I'd try to get there and get the guns before anyone else did. So would a smart cop or Wal-Mart employee. Would be a pity to shoot me, or the cop, or the employee and let them fall into the hands of someone else.
>What about the guy who just got car-jacked?
What about the homeless guy in Hawaii who just stole a car and almost hit a cop car? Or the guy in Detroit who stole a car and smacked into a power pole, causing a blackout?
If a Wal-Mart in my neighborhood got broken into, and it had guns, I'd try to get there and get the guns before anyone else did. So would a smart cop or Wal-Mart employee. Would be a pity to shoot me, or the cop, or the employee and let them fall into the hands of someone else.
>What about the guy who just got car-jacked?
What about the homeless guy in Hawaii who just stole a car and almost hit a cop car? Or the guy in Detroit who stole a car and smacked into a power pole, causing a blackout?
Looting ....... it's just stuff. If all of you who advocate going after these sad pathetic people with extreme predudice would rather spend all of this excessive energy helping people who actually need it (especially those who claim to be religious
) then the world would be a much better place
Positive energy is far better than negative
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) then the world would be a much better place
Positive energy is far better than negative
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Michele 1
IIRC, the looting which occurred both after the '94 quake (and it was a lot of looting) as well as the looting in the King riots was prosecuted. Many, many of these "thugs" are known to the local constabulary, and with all the media footage, their faces are clear. As happened in LA both times, once things settled down, many were arrested and changed with theft. Some explained (and had the evidence to back it up - the media footage) that they were getting batteries, diapers, water, formula, and basic necessities. They were released and records scrubbed, while those carting off computers and tvs, jewlery and clothing were sentenced to the maximum allowed by law.
I suspect the same thing will happen in NO. No shooting necessary.
(BTW, BillV, I didn't see your response about the captions. Any word on getting a link so I am completely clear as to their originations? I googled and didn't find; perhaps they hadn't been cached yet...thanks!)
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While our hearts lie bleeding?~
I suspect the same thing will happen in NO. No shooting necessary.
(BTW, BillV, I didn't see your response about the captions. Any word on getting a link so I am completely clear as to their originations? I googled and didn't find; perhaps they hadn't been cached yet...thanks!)
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QuoteQuoteBut I'd hate to be killed because I was carrying out my own laptop as I went for safer ground.
Do you live in a store?
lol! roflmao!!! good one Katrina
Watching CNN now. Getting dark in the Big Easy. Some fine folks recently fired up a police station with AK's and the TV's stereo's and GUNS are still being liberated there.
Things are going to get much worse in New Orleans, it's called the "law of the jungle"
QuoteQuoteQuoteBut I'd hate to be killed because I was carrying out my own laptop as I went for safer ground.
Do you live in a store?
lol! roflmao!!! good one Katrina
not really. One might be walking along side a store, or have come out of it after some other legitimate purpose. Certainly I wouldn't be leaving anything in my car, or out of my possession in the chaos going on.
I sure hope that if I was ever put in the kind of situation that the survivors of Katrina have had to deal with, that you were by my side.
I don't have a problem taking items that would help me survive.
I don't have a problem taking items that would help me survive.
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey
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QuoteI don't have a problem taking items that would help me survive.
How about them shooting at evacuation helicopters? The evacuation of the Superdome has been suspended because shots have been fired at the helicopters moving people out of the dome to buses... nice
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QuoteQuoteI don't have a problem taking items that would help me survive.
How about them shooting at evacuation helicopters? The evacuation of the Superdome has been suspended because shots have been fired at the helicopters moving people out of the dome to buses... nice
I'm trying to understand what me looting items to survive has to do with other people shotting at the evacuation helicopters.
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey
at first i didn't think it was necessary to shoot looters, but now that superdome evacuation has been stopped and 1500 people have to stop search and rescue in order to tame the thugs, i would not have a problem with using deadly force. in fact i would like to see the national guard in there being very liberal with the deadly force. the city is in anarchy and if control isn't gained very quickly, many more innocent people will die.
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Maybe they were just trying to get the rescuers attention, so they could be rescued... yeah, that's it...
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke
Bill, I've heard from several co-workers that there has been a prison that has taken hostages, possibly chrildren of gaurds who took there families to work for protection from the storm. Have you heared anything about this.
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