j0nes 0 #1 August 30, 2005 Anyone else wonder how much foreign aid we can expect for our hurricane pummeled southeast? My guess is zero dollars, zero rupees, zero euros, zero rand, etc..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #2 August 30, 2005 Have you asked any countries for any aid. How much foreign aid do you need and what type. Many countries suffer from catastrophes now and again and are able to deal with these events without the need for foreign aid other countries are not as fortunate and have to rely on foreign aid. Which type of country do you think the USA is. Would you rather rely on foreign aid or be self sufficient. Many of the people affected will need some sort of aid and help but most (ALL) of this will come form domestic charities and government agencies. For some people no amount of aid will bring back the people that they have lost. John---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you think my attitude stinks you should smell my fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #3 August 30, 2005 Just give everyone in Iraq a day off. That should save you a bunch to spend on repairs. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #4 August 30, 2005 What have you done to help these people out? Rather than point your finger at Third World nations for not helping us out, log on to www.redcross.org and help out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dmcoco84 5 #5 August 30, 2005 Not a damn penny. We give so much to otehr nations but we are still the bday guys. I say screw everyone, lets fix our own problems here at home first. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 August 30, 2005 I hope you can see the difference between that event and this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #7 August 30, 2005 QuoteAnyone else wonder how much foreign aid we can expect for our hurricane pummeled southeast? My guess is zero dollars, zero rupees, zero euros, zero rand, etc..... I was thinking the EXACT same thing this morning. My guess is a big fat zero. It just doesn't seem to work that way. But damnit, we owe the rest of the world in their times of need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #8 August 30, 2005 QuoteI was thinking the EXACT same thing this morning. My guess is a big fat zero. It just doesn't seem to work that way. But damnit, we owe the rest of the world in their times of need. Call me cynical, but there is much to gain through our contributions to foreign countries. It buys us certain economic and commercial footholds, military bases, first bid at major projects, etc... To the average joe, there's little benefits, other than on the humanitarian level. But at the multinational companies level, there are huge benefits to be had. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #9 August 30, 2005 Pass me your address and I'll send you a blanket.....Now stop your fucking whinging (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #10 August 30, 2005 Well, you have 4 more opportunities to use that word today"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #11 August 30, 2005 TeHe (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #12 August 30, 2005 Venezuela offers aid Hey, maybe we could box up Pat Robertson & trade him to Chavez for a few million barrels of oil! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #13 August 30, 2005 QuoteAnyone else wonder how much foreign aid we can expect for our hurricane pummeled southeast? My guess is zero dollars, zero rupees, zero euros, zero rand, etc..... Could it possibly be that the rest of the world tries to reserve their aid for countries that actually need it? Of course not, it really is just because we all hate America.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #14 August 31, 2005 fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you, and fuck you...crap, guess I hit the quota! Oh dear God, time for my "talking to." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ViperPilot 0 #15 August 31, 2005 Obviously we are a self sufficent country and would rather remain so. So, what Scottish said is completely on track. But, I understand where that frustration is coming from, J0nes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #16 August 31, 2005 LOLI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #17 August 31, 2005 QuoteNot a damn penny. We give so much to otehr nations but we are still the bday guys. I say screw everyone, lets fix our own problems here at home first!Quote why don't you then! i don't think you were the only country to help the tsunami victims!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot90 0 #18 August 31, 2005 stop sending any money to the UN, and send it to our people. would be a good start. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crozby 0 #19 August 31, 2005 QuoteBut damnit, we owe the rest of the world in their times of need. You'd like to think so, wouldn't you. But I don't recall anyone begging the US to get involved in much at all lately. Do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot90 0 #20 August 31, 2005 QuoteBut I don't recall anyone begging the US to get involved in much at all lately. Do you? YOU do not remember the head lines about not enough aid going to relief. Come on! Before they did anything they started slamming the US because we did send enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites crozby 0 #21 August 31, 2005 QuoteYOU do not remember the head lines about not enough aid going to relief. Come on! Before they did anything they started slamming the US because we did send enough. Newspapers in no way reflect global public opinion. I shouldn't think most of the world could give a shit what the average American donated to the tsunami appeal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #22 August 31, 2005 If you recall correctly, the UN said the "West" had been stingy in its initial response. US papers reported that as the "US" being stingy. Can't really account for crappy reporting though can we. To be fair, the West was pretty stingy in its initial response. Thankfully we all increased our pledges dramatically once the scale of the disaster became more apparent... thanks in part to comments like that above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #23 August 31, 2005 QuoteQuoteYOU do not remember the head lines about not enough aid going to relief. Come on! Before they did anything they started slamming the US because we did send enough. Newspapers in no way reflect global public opinion. I shouldn't think most of the world could give a shit what the average American donated to the tsunami appeal. Except it was the UN criticizing the initial amout the US pledged. The initial pledge was made before anybody knew the extent of the aid required, but that didn't stop the UN from using it as an opportunity to bash the US. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32337-2004Dec28.html In addition, here's an example of where our money went. http://www.geopoliticalreview.com/archives/001111tsunami_aid_stolen_by_islamist.php QuoteCHARITABLE donations to help people affected by the Asian tsunami disaster are falling into the hands of radical Islamic groups linked to terrorists in Indonesia, a leading expert on the global al-Qaeda network warned yesterday. Relief money had become the "primary source" of income for two militant groups, including one founded by a Muslim cleric serving a prison sentence in connection with the Bali bombing in 2002 in which more than 200 people were killed. Dr Gunaratna, author of the book Inside al Qaeda: Global Network of Terror, said the radical Islamic groups Mujahideen Kompak and Majelis Mujahideen Indonesia, or MMI, were moving into the Aceh region, where 130,000 people were killed and entire villages demolished by the devastating tsunami. He told the conference, organised by banks in Singapore, that steps had to be taken to ensure that charitable donations did not go astray. "Charities are a primary source of income for these groups," he said. "That's why there has to be more accountability in where donations go." Terrorism expert Professor David Capitanchik, formerly of Robert Gordon University, told The Scotsman that terrorist groups were known to have set up charities to act as money-laundering operations. "Around mosques, there are lots of people standing outside with boxes asking people to give to charity," he said. "It is rare that people who donate money know exactly where it is going. Organisations banned in this country - like Hamas - raise funds like that here." Patrick Nicholson, of Catholic aid agency Cafod, who was in Aceh in early this year and again in June, said that while radical Islamic groups had first tried to exploit the situation to whip up anti-Western feeling, they appeared to have given up. "I would challenge him [Dr Gunaratna]. There aren't the same sort of groups [in Aceh] as you see in other parts of Indonesia," he said. "They [Islamic extremists] turned up after the tsunami and tried to get Western aid agencies kicked out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sinker 0 #24 August 31, 2005 we shouldn't ASK nor EXPECT any help from other countries. we should be self sufficient AND the first to offer help to our brothers and sisters in other countries who need help. we're the richest nation in the world and, since we're villified by so many, we should go out of our way to prove that we are NOT the "great satan." Of course, if other nations volunteer to help, we should not be prideful and refuse it, we should graciously accept it. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites j0nes 0 #25 August 31, 2005 Quotewe shouldn't ASK nor EXPECT any help from other countries. i like to think of it as an invitation to a party you really don't want to go to. You expect the invitation to come, and when it doesn't you're disappointed even though you didn't want to go anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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bodypilot90 0 #18 August 31, 2005 stop sending any money to the UN, and send it to our people. would be a good start. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #19 August 31, 2005 QuoteBut damnit, we owe the rest of the world in their times of need. You'd like to think so, wouldn't you. But I don't recall anyone begging the US to get involved in much at all lately. Do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #20 August 31, 2005 QuoteBut I don't recall anyone begging the US to get involved in much at all lately. Do you? YOU do not remember the head lines about not enough aid going to relief. Come on! Before they did anything they started slamming the US because we did send enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crozby 0 #21 August 31, 2005 QuoteYOU do not remember the head lines about not enough aid going to relief. Come on! Before they did anything they started slamming the US because we did send enough. Newspapers in no way reflect global public opinion. I shouldn't think most of the world could give a shit what the average American donated to the tsunami appeal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #22 August 31, 2005 If you recall correctly, the UN said the "West" had been stingy in its initial response. US papers reported that as the "US" being stingy. Can't really account for crappy reporting though can we. To be fair, the West was pretty stingy in its initial response. Thankfully we all increased our pledges dramatically once the scale of the disaster became more apparent... thanks in part to comments like that above. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #23 August 31, 2005 QuoteQuoteYOU do not remember the head lines about not enough aid going to relief. Come on! Before they did anything they started slamming the US because we did send enough. Newspapers in no way reflect global public opinion. I shouldn't think most of the world could give a shit what the average American donated to the tsunami appeal. Except it was the UN criticizing the initial amout the US pledged. The initial pledge was made before anybody knew the extent of the aid required, but that didn't stop the UN from using it as an opportunity to bash the US. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32337-2004Dec28.html In addition, here's an example of where our money went. http://www.geopoliticalreview.com/archives/001111tsunami_aid_stolen_by_islamist.php QuoteCHARITABLE donations to help people affected by the Asian tsunami disaster are falling into the hands of radical Islamic groups linked to terrorists in Indonesia, a leading expert on the global al-Qaeda network warned yesterday. Relief money had become the "primary source" of income for two militant groups, including one founded by a Muslim cleric serving a prison sentence in connection with the Bali bombing in 2002 in which more than 200 people were killed. Dr Gunaratna, author of the book Inside al Qaeda: Global Network of Terror, said the radical Islamic groups Mujahideen Kompak and Majelis Mujahideen Indonesia, or MMI, were moving into the Aceh region, where 130,000 people were killed and entire villages demolished by the devastating tsunami. He told the conference, organised by banks in Singapore, that steps had to be taken to ensure that charitable donations did not go astray. "Charities are a primary source of income for these groups," he said. "That's why there has to be more accountability in where donations go." Terrorism expert Professor David Capitanchik, formerly of Robert Gordon University, told The Scotsman that terrorist groups were known to have set up charities to act as money-laundering operations. "Around mosques, there are lots of people standing outside with boxes asking people to give to charity," he said. "It is rare that people who donate money know exactly where it is going. Organisations banned in this country - like Hamas - raise funds like that here." Patrick Nicholson, of Catholic aid agency Cafod, who was in Aceh in early this year and again in June, said that while radical Islamic groups had first tried to exploit the situation to whip up anti-Western feeling, they appeared to have given up. "I would challenge him [Dr Gunaratna]. There aren't the same sort of groups [in Aceh] as you see in other parts of Indonesia," he said. "They [Islamic extremists] turned up after the tsunami and tried to get Western aid agencies kicked out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #24 August 31, 2005 we shouldn't ASK nor EXPECT any help from other countries. we should be self sufficient AND the first to offer help to our brothers and sisters in other countries who need help. we're the richest nation in the world and, since we're villified by so many, we should go out of our way to prove that we are NOT the "great satan." Of course, if other nations volunteer to help, we should not be prideful and refuse it, we should graciously accept it. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j0nes 0 #25 August 31, 2005 Quotewe shouldn't ASK nor EXPECT any help from other countries. i like to think of it as an invitation to a party you really don't want to go to. You expect the invitation to come, and when it doesn't you're disappointed even though you didn't want to go anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
