General: Army to Miss Recruiting Goals in '05

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166490,00.html

The draft will be here soon. They won't have a choice.

Rhino

[BillyVance 35]

Amazing how they can just implement the draft, without ever declaring war on the enemy.

Not that I'm against taking Saddam and the Taliban out of power and staying to stabilize their countries, but I don't remember any declaration of war... then again, terrorists are not your average enemy...

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to have your kid come home in a box.

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^
that is really fucked up.

I agree that the draft is uncool. A Voulnteer Army is the way it needs to stay.

I don't know why we are in Iraq, I hated being there. I don't want to go back so Bush can line the pockets of contractors and pay 6 figure salaries to gaurd Iraqi VIP's - while Soldiers die for an extra 275.00 a month.....

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August 23, 2005
Armed Forces Recruitment Exceeds Targets

Ralph Peters has a nominee for August's most important unreported story: while the media were in a frenzy over Cindy Sheehan, the armed forces have quietly exceeded their recruitment goals for FY 2005:

Every one of the Army's 10 divisions — its key combat organizations — has exceeded its re-enlistment goal for the year to date. Those with the most intense experience in Iraq have the best rates. The 1st Cavalry Division is at 136 percent of its target, the 3rd Infantry Division at 117 percent.
What about first-time enlistment rates, since that was the issue last spring? The Army is running at 108 percent of its needs. Guess not every young American despises his or her country and our president.

The Army Reserve is a tougher sell, given that it takes men and women away from their families and careers on short notice. Well, Reserve recruitment stands at 102 percent of requirements.

And then there's the Army National Guard. We've been told for two years that the Guard was in free-fall. Really? Guard recruitment and retention comes out to 106 percent of its requirements as of June 30.


As Peters says, patriotism is alive and well. But what do the young men and women who enlist and reenlist see when they open a newspaper?

The Cindy Sheehan Extravaganza. Predictions of disaster. The depiction of Michael Moore as a hero and our soldiers as dupes. And a ceaseless attempt to convince the American people that there's no hope in Iraq.
The ugly truth is that much of the media only cares about our soldiers when they're dead or crippled. That's a story.


If the major media weren't too self-absorbed to see outside the liberal cocoon, they'd be ashamed of themselves.

Via Betsy Newmark, subbing for Michelle Malkin.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,150]

That article co-mingles recruitment and retention so it's impossible to see what actually is going on.

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[rushmc 23]

True enough, regardless, it is not as bad as the media would have us believe............

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jdhill 0]

It's not impossible, you just have to understand that its about end strength, not recruiting or retention individually.

If they are missing their end strenght numbers there could be an issue, but I do not believe that is the case... and its certainly not the chicken little cry of "the draft is coming" that rhino keeps singing.

J

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

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The draft will be here soon. They won't have a choice.

Rhino

I disagree. While new enlistments in the Army will be missed this year, the other branches are making their goals, and more importantly, re-enlistments within the Army are way beyond goals (when looking at specific units). That 107% Army-wide seems conservative to me.

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Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
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the other branches are making their goals

Sure they are.. Mom and pop know that if little Johnny joins the Air Force or Navy he won't be on the front line. Marines and Army however is a different story. I am not singing anything here. It is my belief that we will definitely see the draft in a short time to come. Especially with the Pentagon saying 4 more years with 100k+ troops left in Iraq. Our forces are being worn out. People are getting out by the MASSES. Don't be fooled. I have dozens upon dozens of Marine and Army friends alike that are just tired, tired of Iraq, Afghanistan and being away from their familes so much.

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The draft will be here soon. They won't have a choice.

Rhino

During Vietnam, there was a couple of interesting approaches.

Option 1- "You were convicted of a felony. Go to jail or enlist in the Marines." I had two friends who avoided jail through this method and visited Okinawa.

Option 2- McNamara's 100,000 plan
He sold it as part of the "War on Poverty". He was giving people "opportunities".

These recruits were previously unacceptable because of low educational scores. Remember - the minimum reading skill was 6th grade.

They were given 6 months of training and remedial education. This is the beauty part - the education was an optional 6 week English reading/writing course given in Hawaii.
You have 6 weeks in Hawaii to learn English before going to a country of French and Vietnamese that you may not return from. Imagine the attendance.

The draft will never return. The average drafted soldier is less motivated and educated than the volunteers.

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The draft will be here soon. They won't have a choice.

Rhino

BS. "They" (meaning the US armed forces) don't make such decisions - Congress does. And Congress voted on it last year. Only one Congressional vote was in favor of it. Every other member of the House (all 500 plus) voted AGAINST.

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Option 1- "You were convicted of a felony. Go to jail or enlist in the Marines." I had two friends who avoided jail through this method and visited Okinawa.

While it may have been OK then, it is illegal now. You cannot join any branch with an open criminal case pending (even a speeding ticket).

J

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke