Mike111 0
Quote, it's sufficient just to invade a foreign country and kill its citizens.
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I don't quite agree with that. He isn't deliberately killing the citizens - why would he wanna do that>?
ITs an unfortunate part of ANY cmapagin, that civilians are killed. I mean ww2 - how many civilians died there?
Thats not saying it is justified to kill them, but is is a terrrible part of war, which will happen regardless. A bomb will be dropped on the wrong place, it always does happen.![[:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png "[:/]")
Why Bush would want to DELIBERATELY kill civilians is beyond me, what does he have to gain - if he trying to win the support of the people, then killngi them wouldn;t work.
just my 0.02
Oooh.... DELIBERATELY.... he's not killing by himself as we know, he just doesn't mind who's been killed day by day by day....
Which support of which ppl is he trying to gain? You surely do not mean those of Iraq, right?
dudeist skydiver # 3105
Mike111 0
Why does everyone think they know what Bush feels or thinks?
Do you know what goes thorugh his head?
Im pretty sure he gets upset when a soldier is dead, he isn't a monster. its just presidents cant really show it, cos they are the leader. and no im not blind or bedazzled by bush.
Im pretty sure he would want to gain the support of the Iraqi people
Plus more are killed by the bombers than by USA, but people seem to forget that.
Quotei think you know which people im referring to. yes the Irawi people.
Why does everyone think they know what Bush feels or thinks?Quote
Not me. I did not say that, no no...Georgies feelings surely are hidden deep inside his heart.
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Do you know what goes thorugh his head?
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His master's voice?
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Im pretty sure he gets upset when a soldier is dead, he isn't a monster. its just presidents cant really show it, cos they are the leader. and no im not blind or bedazzled by bush.
You have your oppinion , which is cool, i have myne.
Im pretty sure he would want to gain the support of the Iraqi people
Plus more are killed by the bombers than by USA, but people seem to forget that.
Who's to comment that?Not me, I'm walking on earth since too many years.
dudeist skydiver # 3105
Mike111 0
No, seriously:
You got it right: I don't like him. But like to read your posts.
You'd be prepared to give your life for GWB and his ideas?
dudeist skydiver # 3105
Mike111 0
Erm, whatever im gonna type is gna get shit from all angles - "how do you know" "have you really thouhgt that over?" "are you sure, you don;t know what youre on about"
I won't answer that here if you don't mind, but good question.
Im not deliberaetly avoiding it at all, its a really good point to make.
dudeist skydiver # 3105
Mike111 0
Gawain 0
QuoteWasn't this military action supposed to be swift? In and out in a couple of weeks?
You show me a quote from anyone, anywhere that said what you noted. From the day of the attacks, the leadership has hammered home the fact that this war on terror is going to last a long time. From the time that our boots first hit the dirt in Afghanistan I knew it was going to many, many years. From the time Saddam was captured, I knew we would occupy Iraq for at least a few more years, likely longer.
Gang, this is what happens when you solely rely on the press for information and don't query history for a basis for reference.
It takes years, and decades to build, or rebuild a country from the ground up -- economically, politically, sociologically. It always has, and it always will. In the case of the middle east, it will take decades, and that's on a fast track.
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Greene 0
AND, you think the news media has Ever given endorsement to the war!
Let me know what papers and TV you are reading, if other than FOX
Lee West
Enrique 0
QuoteQuoteQuoteWasn't this military action supposed to be swift? In and out in a couple of weeks?
You show me a quote from anyone, anywhere that said what you noted.
Bill just posted two of them:
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."
-Rumsfeld, 2/7/03
"I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators... I think it will go relatively quickly…weeks rather than months."
-Cheney, 3/16/03QuoteGang, this is what happens when you solely rely on the press for information and don't query history for a basis for reference.
It seems like first hand information to me. I heard them live during the initial press conferences...QuoteIt takes years, and decades to build, or rebuild a country from the ground up -- economically, politically, sociologically. It always has, and it always will. In the case of the middle east, it will take decades, and that's on a fast track.
True. Especially if you level the entire Country to the ground with bombs. Nice business: destroy everything and bring in your own companies and personnel to rebuild everything. I'd like to get a piece of that action ($$$$$$$$)!
Really, I admire your patriotism and valor, but I strongly believe that there is a deeper, more complicated intention behind the war on Iraq (or any other Country with large oil fields) than you and I can see. Simple (or rather 'complicated') economics.
Peace out!
Gawain 0
QuoteBill just posted two of them:
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months."
-Rumsfeld, 2/7/03
"I think things have gotten so bad inside Iraq, from the standpoint of the Iraqi people, my belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators... I think it will go relatively quickly…weeks rather than months."
-Cheney, 3/16/03
I love seeing these quotes. They, in fact validate my point. These are answers to questions in terms of the operational time line of the invasion, not the occupation. Nice try though.
QuoteReally, I admire your patriotism and valor, but I strongly believe that there is a deeper, more complicated intention behind the war on Iraq (or any other Country with large oil fields) than you and I can see. Simple (or rather 'complicated') economics.
Peace out!
And again, if it was solely about oil, then we would have kept Saddam in power, and lifted the sanctions, allowed him to maintain his brutally tight control over Iraq. We then, would have shifted our attention to Saudi Arabia, with larger reserves and higher production capabilities.
Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
Make light!
Enrique 0
QuoteWe then, would have shifted our attention to Saudi Arabia, with larger reserves and higher production capabilities.
Can you say: VENEZUELA? KUWAIT? Dude, look at the big picture. It ain't pretty. Here in Mexico we are already the U.S.A.'s bitches... unfortunately we don't have (and have never had) a President with balls big enough to contradict Uncle Sam
... at least not lately.
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