Trent 0 #1 August 19, 2005 http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/08/18/china.russia.military.ap/index.html A big scary alliance? Nothing to worry about? Or maybe we'll see something similar to what happened in Tom Clancy's "The Dragon and The Bear"?Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #2 August 19, 2005 I honestly think this is mainly an economic relationship. More for Russia's benefit than China's. Russia's economy is still weak and keeping China on as an arms customer is pretty essential to them. Both countries have problems with insurgency/terrorism in breakaway areas. So I think the stated reason is probably the case. Still I agree that it is somewhat disturbing that China could be viewing it as "Taiwan practice". - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #3 August 19, 2005 "The exercises are the logical continuation of the first signs of cooperation between Russia and China in the struggle against 'orange revolutions,' separatism and the dominant influence of the U.S. in the Euroasiatic sphere," yep. scary.illegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trent 0 #4 August 19, 2005 Yeah, gotta crack down on those countries in the area who got rid of corrupt elections and wanted a democracy for themselves (Ukraine, Tibet, Taiwan). Best just to let the Chinese run everything. I sure hope we have some people in our intelligence agencies who can keep an eye on things over there. I think it'll be scary... that's just me though...Oh, hello again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverborg 0 #5 August 19, 2005 QuoteYeah, gotta crack down on those countries in the area who got rid of corrupt elections and wanted a democracy for themselves (Ukraine, Tibet, Taiwan). Best just to let the Chinese run everything. Pretty scary, that's what I see happening. The scariest part of the whole article though. QuoteThe exercises "are being run under the goals and principles of the U.N. I think we can pretty much say goodbye to Tibet. Funny, for some reason I remember the Chinese terrorizing the Tibetans and not the other way around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zennie 0 #6 August 19, 2005 QuoteI think we can pretty much say goodbye to Tibet. Tibet's been long gone. If you want to see a movie on the Chinese atrocities in Tibet, watch "Kundun". It's the story of the Dalai Lama's life. - Z "Always be yourself... unless you suck." - Joss Whedon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverborg 0 #7 August 19, 2005 QuoteTibet's been long gone. That's true but the desire for separtism is still there. Ok if not Tibet, then Taiwan's gonna get it. Just my humble opinion. I hope I'm wrong and this is all some stupid misinterpretation of their motives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #8 August 19, 2005 QuoteI sure hope we have some people in our intelligence agencies who can keep an eye on things over there. It would be nice to think we had some assets like those in The Bear and the Dragon... sadly, I doubt it, and we are a long way from getting there. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinaa 0 #9 August 25, 2005 Some cool photos from that exersise can be found here. Pretty impresive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #10 August 25, 2005 Stop the press: China and Russia have big armies! What's the scary part of that? Maybe I was privileged, but I kinda knew that prior to them conducting joint manoeuvres. And what do Tibet, Ukraine and Taiwan have to do with it? I'm sure the Chinese do not need Russia to stay in Tibet; the Russian are not going to invade Taiwan, nor will the Chinese move into Ukraine. Here's my POV: in 20 years, Tibet will still be a province of China; Taiwan will be reattached to Mainland China without any military intervention from the PRC; and Ukraine will be doing just fine, including its national soccer team. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #11 August 25, 2005 QuoteSome cool photos from that exersise can be found here. Pretty impresive. I noticed that the Russkys brought their own cheerleaders...hmmmm....they need a new uniform designer.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #12 August 25, 2005 QuoteSome cool photos from that exersise can be found here. Pretty impresive. I noticed that the Russkys brought their own cheerleaders...hmmmm....they need a new uniform designer.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kinaa 0 #13 August 25, 2005 Yes, the first page of that thread don't have great pics. Best ones are at page 4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
