Does anyone else feel the need for an Alien forum?

[sinker 0]

That's why it's disturbing to see so many belief systems based on non-belief of what others hold dear. I find that to be the most unsettling thing in today's society. More than anything else. ***

Very well spoken!

-the artist formerly known as sinker

[jakee 1,596]

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I hope quotes instead of capitals provide emphasis that doesn't hurt your delicate sensibilities. I don't like shouting either but wouldn't be rude enough to call it "fucking hilarious" and mock someone elses closely held belief system instead of just requesting he don't shout so much.

What struck me most about sinkers post was the word 'frustrating'. It struck me how frustrating it is to see otherwise rational people put so much value in what seem to me like fairy tales. So to be criticised for a leap of faith seemed to me to be rather odd. But you're right, I overreacted and probably overshadowed the points I was trying to make in my previous post, sinker, I'm sorry.

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Human have hope. It manifests normally in belief of things that have no real proof.
For others it's space aliens.

I suppose for some people, like the guys who sit on the roof shining lights into the sky sending morse code, but personally its something I never even think about unless someone else brings it up.

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That's why it's disturbing to see so many belief systems based on non-belief of what others hold dear. I find that to be the most unsettling thing in today's society. More than anything else.

Thats an interesting thought, care to elaborate? What exactly is it you're thinking about here?

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[sinker 0]

sinker, I'm sorry***

Thanks for that, apology accepted. And I'm sorry too, for being an asshole to you.

-the artist formerly known as sinker

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in rep 2--'Just out of curiousity, where are you going with the hydrogen stuff in a valley?'

I wish we could be using LH2 instead of petroleum products. The rest of the "black gold" could be used more wisely over a longer period of time if we replace it's use in cars with liquid hydrogen. Apparently there are places in the USA where this is already happening.
I'd like to hear more as it sounds very good.

Aliens or not

[br0k3n 0]

Ok so first off, I do believe there is life out there, mathematical probability that among the trillions of stars in the billions of galaxies there are millions of planets in age and proximity to a star analogous to our Sun. The chances seem very good that on some of those planets life has evolved. However, it is not inevitable that the results of that evolution would yield intelligence, much less intelligence equal or superior to ours. It is possible that we are unique.

Have these little green men visited earth, unlikely.. Why …. Because we are just so far away, that travel to our planet would take years. The closest star (besides our Sun) is so far away from Earth that travel between the two would take more than a human lifetime. The fact that it takes our Sun about 200 million years to revolve once around the Milky Way gives one a glimpse of the perspective we have to take of interstellar travel.

Have people been abducted by aliens… again unlikely…. This is again due to the fact that to abuct someone they would have to have travelled for a very long time to get here…. Interestingly if you trace Alien abduction stories back, it has been shown that they started to appear around 1950 and the birth of Science Fiction.

"...despite the fact that we humans are great collectors of souvenirs, not one of these persons [claiming to have been aboard a flying saucer] has brought back so much as an extraterrestrial tool or artefact, which could, once and for all, resolve the UFO mystery." Philip Klass

The 1950s brought us the golden age of modern science. We had begun to explore our environment more fully, started to reach out into space and developed fantastic inventions like the super computer. Some say that the 1950s put the SCIENCE in SCIENCE FICTION. Sci-fi stories became more believable because they were based on actual scientific theory or practical scientific fact.

Those who claim to have been abducted by aliens may be neither crazy nor telling the truth. It might be better to think of them as sharing a cultural delusion. They are similar to the people who have near-death experiences of going down the dark tunnel to the bright light, or who see Jesus beckoning to them. These shared experiences do not prove that the experiences were not fantasies. They are likely due to similar brain states, and similar life experiences and death expectations. The alternatives are not either that they are totally crazy or that they really did die, go to another world, and return to life. There is a naturalistic explanation in terms of brain states and shared cultural beliefs.
Alien abductees might also be seen as similar to mystics. Both believe they have experienced something denied to the rest of us. The only evidence for their experience is their belief that it happened and the account they give of it. There is no other evidence

If there are beings clever enough to travel around the universe today, there probably were some equally intelligent beings who could have done so in ancient or medieval times. The delusions of the ancients and the medievals are not couched in terms of aliens and spacecraft because these are our century's creations. We can laugh at the idea of gods taking on the form of swans to seduce beautiful women, or of devils impregnating nuns, because they do not fit with our cultural prejudices and delusions. The ancients and medievals probably would have laughed at anyone who would have claimed to have been picked up by aliens from another planet for sex or reproductive surgery. The only reason anyone takes the abductees seriously today is because their delusions do not blatantly conflict with our cultural beliefs that intergalactic space travel is a real possibility and that it is highly probable that we are not the only inhabited planet in the universe. In other times, no one would have been able to take these claims seriously.

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[nanook 1]

Here is some of the well known ones:

http://www.fuelcells.org/info/charts/h2fuelingstations.pdf

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in reply 2 "Here is some of the well known ones:'

That is such an excellent reply...thank you.

Looks like some bods in California are already living in the future.
I didn't realise there are so many ways to produce H2 .

Cheers brOk3n I found your reply very well put.
So glad there's intelligent life on this planet.

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in reply to "Have these little green men visited earth,'

I found a photo of an alien coming into earth's atmosphere
They changed color a bit