AlexCrowley 0 #1 August 14, 2005 WMD Factory Found!!!! Urm, built in 2003 ?! "Materials found in a warehouse in Mosul could yield an agent capable of "lingering hazards" for those exposed to it, according to a U.S. military spokesman. He said the lab was relatively new, dating from some time after the invasion of Iraq in 2003. " Just in case that little snippet gets lost in the 'IRAQ HAD WMD' shitstorm thats bound to be started by people with an agenda. Oh my God! WMDs! TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #2 August 14, 2005 Wonder if we'll hear the right wingers start calling for regime change again? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #3 August 14, 2005 like mr kerry QuoteVideotape, October 9, 2002): SEN. KERRY: Iraq has some lethal and incapacitating agents and is capable of quickly producing weaponizing of a variety of such agents, including anthrax, for delivery on a range of vehicles, such as bombs, missiles, aerial sprayers and covert operatives which would bring them to the United States itself. In addition, we know they are developing unmanned aerial vehicles capable of delivering chemical and biological warfare agents. According to the CIA’s report, all U.S. intelligence experts agree that they are seeking nuclear weapons. There is little question that Saddam Hussein wants to develop them. In the wake of September 11, who among us can say with any certainty to anybody that the weapons might not be used against our troops or against allies in the region? Who can say that this master of miscalculation will not develop a weapon of mass destruction even greater, a nuclear weapon? so the lead dem thought so, Clinton made sure we had no ground intel. The UN thought so, hell even SH inner circle thought so. SH bluffed and he ended up deposed and Millions freed. You want to pull out now like some liberals? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #4 August 14, 2005 >Clinton made sure we had no ground intel. Again, you're using the standard GOP excuses out of order. Blame the liberal media _first_, blame Clinton _second._ You're going to confuse people! >The UN thought so . . . Never read their final report, did you? No suprise there; no one in the administration did either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #5 August 14, 2005 No need to be concerned. The report says it's only a suspected lab. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #6 August 14, 2005 Quote>Clinton made sure we had no ground intel. QuoteAgain, you're using the standard GOP excuses out of order. Blame the liberal media _first_, blame Clinton _second._ You're going to confuse people! and typical Liberal response. Ignore the reality caused by PDD 24. Nothing new here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mike111 0 #7 August 14, 2005 As they found it after they invaded, does that mean it will not imrpove Bush's poll ratings as he found them after when he said they had them before? What do you think ( i hope they do imrpove it for him)? mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #8 August 14, 2005 Except the factory was built *after* the invasion :-/. I dont care, opinion polls only show how joe public feels, rather than reflecting the reality of the situation. I'd prefer someone do the right thing even if its unpopular rather than the wrong thing just to boost an approval rating. And I avoid the question again :) TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #9 August 14, 2005 QuoteExcept the factory was built *after* the invasion :-/. I dont care, opinion polls only show how joe public feels, rather than reflecting the reality of the situation. I'd prefer someone do the right thing even if its unpopular rather than the wrong thing just to boost an approval rating. And I avoid the question again :) Lets see if I understand. After the invasion, with American and Iraqi Troops blanketing the country, terrorists were able to get the raw materials into the country to set up a lab that would produce chemical weapons. But SH wasn't able to export chemical weapons nor get the same materials before the invasion because of the fearful UN inspectors? Is this what you are saying? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bodypilot90 0 #10 August 14, 2005 Quotefinal report on the oil for food program? I didn't know they were done....J/k you mean this report? QuoteThe United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003. The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mike111 0 #11 August 14, 2005 And I avoid the question again :) Quote the point of that being.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #12 August 14, 2005 GM, apparently. Read the article, it clearly states that the factory is new and was build in 2003 at the earlier. Why? I have no clue whatsoever. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #13 August 14, 2005 It amused me. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #14 August 14, 2005 >After the invasion, with American and Iraqi Troops blanketing the > country, terrorists were able to get the raw materials into the country > to set up a lab that would produce chemical weapons. Why not? Uranium, high explosives and millions in art were stolen while American troops were "blanketing" the country. If they missed that, do you really expect us to believe they didn't miss anything else? >But SH wasn't able to export chemical weapons nor get the same >materials before the invasion because of the fearful UN inspectors? No, he decided to play their game and get rid of his WMD's. One thing he was good at, and that was playing the game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mike111 0 #15 August 14, 2005 nice try at a poke. didn't work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #16 August 14, 2005 Quote>After the invasion, with American and Iraqi Troops blanketing the > country, terrorists were able to get the raw materials into the countryQuote > to set up a lab that would produce chemical weapons. Why not? Uranium, high explosives and millions in art were stolen while American troops were "blanketing" the country. If they missed that, do you really expect us to believe they didn't miss anything else? Because those items weren't supposed to be there. Are you claiming they were? Quote>But SH wasn't able to export chemical weapons nor get the same >materials before the invasion because of the fearful UN inspectors? No, he decided to play their game and get rid of his WMD's. One thing he was good at, and that was playing the game. That he was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #17 August 14, 2005 >Because those items weren't supposed to be there. Are you >claiming they were? The uranium was under IAEA seals; he had declared it and they had sealed it. The explosives were legal for him to have per UN sanctions. Now they're gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #18 August 15, 2005 Sorry, wasnt attemping a poke. You'd know if I was TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #19 August 15, 2005 Quote>Because those items weren't supposed to be there. Are you >claiming they were? The uranium was under IAEA seals; he had declared it and they had sealed it. The explosives were legal for him to have per UN sanctions. Now they're gone. Hopefully no chemical weapons disappeared with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #20 August 15, 2005 >Hopefully no chemical weapons disappeared with them. If they had we wouldn't be losing US soldiers just three at a time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #21 August 15, 2005 According to those members of British Parliament who resigned the day that Blair declared the UK were joining the war, those chemical weapons that Saddam had were way past their use by date, and he had no capability of producing any more after The Gulf Distraction Pt 1. If I could remember the red haired ministers name I would point you to his public statement where he went into some detail about why chemical WMDs were not an issue, how the UK Government and intelligence community were well aware of that, and why he was resigning. Some UK person, help me out here :) TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mike111 0 #22 August 15, 2005 robin cook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #23 August 15, 2005 Thank you. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
Mike111 0 #7 August 14, 2005 As they found it after they invaded, does that mean it will not imrpove Bush's poll ratings as he found them after when he said they had them before? What do you think ( i hope they do imrpove it for him)? mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #8 August 14, 2005 Except the factory was built *after* the invasion :-/. I dont care, opinion polls only show how joe public feels, rather than reflecting the reality of the situation. I'd prefer someone do the right thing even if its unpopular rather than the wrong thing just to boost an approval rating. And I avoid the question again :) TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #9 August 14, 2005 QuoteExcept the factory was built *after* the invasion :-/. I dont care, opinion polls only show how joe public feels, rather than reflecting the reality of the situation. I'd prefer someone do the right thing even if its unpopular rather than the wrong thing just to boost an approval rating. And I avoid the question again :) Lets see if I understand. After the invasion, with American and Iraqi Troops blanketing the country, terrorists were able to get the raw materials into the country to set up a lab that would produce chemical weapons. But SH wasn't able to export chemical weapons nor get the same materials before the invasion because of the fearful UN inspectors? Is this what you are saying? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #10 August 14, 2005 Quotefinal report on the oil for food program? I didn't know they were done....J/k you mean this report? QuoteThe United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003. The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam's missile and WMD program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #11 August 14, 2005 And I avoid the question again :) Quote the point of that being.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #12 August 14, 2005 GM, apparently. Read the article, it clearly states that the factory is new and was build in 2003 at the earlier. Why? I have no clue whatsoever. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #13 August 14, 2005 It amused me. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #14 August 14, 2005 >After the invasion, with American and Iraqi Troops blanketing the > country, terrorists were able to get the raw materials into the country > to set up a lab that would produce chemical weapons. Why not? Uranium, high explosives and millions in art were stolen while American troops were "blanketing" the country. If they missed that, do you really expect us to believe they didn't miss anything else? >But SH wasn't able to export chemical weapons nor get the same >materials before the invasion because of the fearful UN inspectors? No, he decided to play their game and get rid of his WMD's. One thing he was good at, and that was playing the game. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #15 August 14, 2005 nice try at a poke. didn't work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #16 August 14, 2005 Quote>After the invasion, with American and Iraqi Troops blanketing the > country, terrorists were able to get the raw materials into the countryQuote > to set up a lab that would produce chemical weapons. Why not? Uranium, high explosives and millions in art were stolen while American troops were "blanketing" the country. If they missed that, do you really expect us to believe they didn't miss anything else? Because those items weren't supposed to be there. Are you claiming they were? Quote>But SH wasn't able to export chemical weapons nor get the same >materials before the invasion because of the fearful UN inspectors? No, he decided to play their game and get rid of his WMD's. One thing he was good at, and that was playing the game. That he was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #17 August 14, 2005 >Because those items weren't supposed to be there. Are you >claiming they were? The uranium was under IAEA seals; he had declared it and they had sealed it. The explosives were legal for him to have per UN sanctions. Now they're gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #18 August 15, 2005 Sorry, wasnt attemping a poke. You'd know if I was TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #19 August 15, 2005 Quote>Because those items weren't supposed to be there. Are you >claiming they were? The uranium was under IAEA seals; he had declared it and they had sealed it. The explosives were legal for him to have per UN sanctions. Now they're gone. Hopefully no chemical weapons disappeared with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #20 August 15, 2005 >Hopefully no chemical weapons disappeared with them. If they had we wouldn't be losing US soldiers just three at a time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #21 August 15, 2005 According to those members of British Parliament who resigned the day that Blair declared the UK were joining the war, those chemical weapons that Saddam had were way past their use by date, and he had no capability of producing any more after The Gulf Distraction Pt 1. If I could remember the red haired ministers name I would point you to his public statement where he went into some detail about why chemical WMDs were not an issue, how the UK Government and intelligence community were well aware of that, and why he was resigning. Some UK person, help me out here :) TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mike111 0 #22 August 15, 2005 robin cook Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlexCrowley 0 #23 August 15, 2005 Thank you. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
billvon 3,120 #17 August 14, 2005 >Because those items weren't supposed to be there. Are you >claiming they were? The uranium was under IAEA seals; he had declared it and they had sealed it. The explosives were legal for him to have per UN sanctions. Now they're gone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #18 August 15, 2005 Sorry, wasnt attemping a poke. You'd know if I was TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #19 August 15, 2005 Quote>Because those items weren't supposed to be there. Are you >claiming they were? The uranium was under IAEA seals; he had declared it and they had sealed it. The explosives were legal for him to have per UN sanctions. Now they're gone. Hopefully no chemical weapons disappeared with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #20 August 15, 2005 >Hopefully no chemical weapons disappeared with them. If they had we wouldn't be losing US soldiers just three at a time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #21 August 15, 2005 According to those members of British Parliament who resigned the day that Blair declared the UK were joining the war, those chemical weapons that Saddam had were way past their use by date, and he had no capability of producing any more after The Gulf Distraction Pt 1. If I could remember the red haired ministers name I would point you to his public statement where he went into some detail about why chemical WMDs were not an issue, how the UK Government and intelligence community were well aware of that, and why he was resigning. Some UK person, help me out here :) TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #23 August 15, 2005 Thank you. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites