shropshire 0 #1 August 13, 2005 What is the soul? Who/what has one? Your thoughts/comments please...... (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #2 August 13, 2005 every human being has a soul. Animals do not. God said, all souls are mine.....what you do or don't do, in this world will guide the outcome of what happens to your soul when you die. Bill Cole Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 August 13, 2005 O.K - for a start ... So, when (in history) did we become special and not mere animals? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #4 August 13, 2005 Quoteevery human being has a soul. Animals do not. Human beings get government identification numbers too. Animals don't. Well, I think cattle do now. Cattle and humans. So do cattle have souls? First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #5 August 13, 2005 Isn't our soul where our spirituality is concerned? Therefore, if one isn;t religious , does that mean we do not have a soul? Mike. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #6 August 13, 2005 Quoteevery human being has a soul. Animals do not. Let me guess who came up with that garbage. A human right? How do you know you have a soul and your pet doesn't. Because we're intelligent and they're not? News flash animals are smarter than we give them credit for and humans are not very smart at all. So what makes us different from all the other beings on this planet or better yet other possible life forms in the universe? Your fictional bible (written by humans) is full of flaws and is a total joke. Your fictional bible claims that the world is only a few thousand years old when we have scientific evidence showing us that your fictional book written by humans is oh so very wrong. So why is it that humans have a soul and animals don't. Oh yes, it's written in that fictional bible of yours used to control and scare humans into NOT thinking for themselves. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #7 August 13, 2005 Quote Let me guess who came up with that garbage. A human right? Wrong! According to Lady Diametricas Almanac of Incomprehensible Paradoxes (pub 1734), 'Humans are the only beings with souls' is attributed to Lord Percival Herringbone, a Campuchian Wombat from the Greater London Zoo. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 August 13, 2005 QuoteIsn't our soul where our spirituality is concerned? - I'd guess, but I'm not at all sure that I even belive that there is such a thing (still to be convinced) QuoteTherefore, if one isn;t religious , does that mean we do not have a soul? - Now I really have to disagree. I'm not religious in the church/god sense. But if we have a soul, then we all have one irrespective of whether you belive or not. This may sound daft, but I mean, if it exists then it exists .... You dont have to know that you've got an appendix, lung or whatever for it to actually exits. If it does then it wont just go away if you aren't religious - would it? . . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #9 August 13, 2005 Ahhh very good point, sorry i didn;t look at it that way. But that would depend although whether you classed it as a physical part of the body or a spiritual side of us - if it was physical then we would all have it until it rotted away when we die same as the rest of our body. Do you hold any religious faiths? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #10 August 13, 2005 QuoteDo you hold any religious faiths? No, I need evidence to belive stuff and religion doesn't provide me with any. I like to think that I'm open minded (but like most people, I'm probably not really). Science is the way to go for me. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #11 August 13, 2005 I agree. i prefer to rely on obserevation and evidence rather than spiritual truth. mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #12 August 13, 2005 Well, for starters, you ALL have a soul. Its just the fact that you lack a mind and the inherent intelligence that goes with it.........and it shows Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,594 #13 August 13, 2005 Quoteevery human being has a soul. Animals do not. Our survey says... Bzzzt. There is no soul, just consciousness and animals have that too, in varying degrees of complexity. QuoteWell, for starters, you ALL have a soul. Its just the fact that you lack a mind and the inherent intelligence that goes with it.........and it shows And everyone knows its the smartest people who first resort to name callingDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #14 August 13, 2005 Could you please take a stab at my earlier question ... <> P.S I seriously am NOT trying to catch anyone out here. I just would like to hear different ideas. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #15 August 13, 2005 QuoteWell, for starters, you ALL have a soul. How can you possibly prove this? You can't!!! There's not a single thing on this planet that can back up your claim (don't bother with that fictious bible of yours as many of us don't believe in it). We'll only know if we have souls after we die. But I surely won't base my current life and my actions on the assumption that there is an after life. Why are humans so different than all the other life forms on this planet or the universe? Oh I forgot, your fictious book of yours written by humans thousands of years ago when science didn't exist, claims that the world (only a few thousand years old) is the center of the universe and that man was created in the image of God. Of course thanks to science, we now know that the world is not flat, the world was created a long long long time ago and we're nothing more that suburban dwellars in our own galaxy which is in a region of the universe far far away from all the action. But the bible tells us this and it tells us that ... so it must be true huh? Too funny I say ... how ignorant must we humans be when it comes to our place in the universe. QuoteIts just the fact that you lack a mind and the inherent intelligence that goes with it.........and it shows Nice PA. But that's okay, I don't care what you think of me. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #16 August 13, 2005 The soul is an attempt to explain the ghost in the machine and if you think about it, it's not really hard to understand why some philosophers believe in them. The human body afterall -is- nothing special. Lots of the parts and coding that went into making up a chimp are used exactly the same way as a human, but for some reason "we" are "special" and have dominion over the planet while the chimps do not. Ok, ok, our brains are quite a bit larger and we have a bigger vocabulary and those opposable thumbs sure do come in handy too, but what most people thought separated us from the other animals is this concept of a soul. I -know- animals have feelings and intelligence so clearly -that- isn't what makes for a soul. I also know that just about every behaviour humans have has an analogous behaviour in quite a few different species so that ain't it either. War, peace, homicide, compassion, homosexuality, monogomy, bestiality, mass murder, child abuse, humour, mourning; you name it other than white collar crime and I'm thinking that you could probably make a case for that too. Even forms of primative religions. Taking all of that into account, I think a soul is really self awareness. Awareness that you exist. Not just react to stimuli, because, well, the computer I'm typing this on is aware of the keystrokes but I'd wager a guess that it's not actually aware that it exists outside the confines of it's need for power and the occasional reboot, but rather anything that is aware enough of itself to ask the question, "what is the soul?" That said, there are quite a few animals that might not be able to voice that question, but certainly are aware they exist and perhaps even able to contemplate their own existance and future.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
philh 0 #17 August 14, 2005 Can you define soul? i know I got soul, you should see me on the dance floor when James Brown or Bobby Bryd is playing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 August 14, 2005 Quote Can you define soul? Kinda, sorta, thought I just had, in a way. Then again, maybe not. Maybe not to everyone's satisfaction, but then again, I don't care. I know what I mean by it and if that doesn't jive with somebody else's belief system, well, they can believe what they want. What I -think- some people want to know is "is there an eternal soul". I dunno. Ask me after I'm dead. If I answer you, then we'll both know.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #19 August 14, 2005 QuoteHow can you possibly prove this? Can't prove, but psychics helping police solve crimes is hard to explain, and the near death experiences of so many make me believe there is a soul.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #20 August 14, 2005 Heaven would be incomplete without animals...I believe that all living things have a soul...even spiders (but I hope they get a different corner of heaven than the one I'm in....). Chuteless, simply because people don't agree with you and your position does not mean that they are unintelligent. Rather, it means they have another opinion. Some of your posts are interesting. This one was simply a PA. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sfzombie13 324 #21 August 14, 2005 while i'm not going to quote the whole thing, amen brother. however, my theory, after reading a lot about string theory, says that if your body is made up of all those strings, and your soul is energy which is released when you die, means that it may choose to reincarnate or not. it borrows from different religions, and it may not be correct, but for a little while longer anyway, it's my right to believe it._________________________________________ Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #22 August 14, 2005 Hi Ya, QuoteHeaven would be incomplete without animals...I believe that all living things have a soul... right through, (as you say) spiders, fleas, bacteria, viruses, Plants etc....... so anything with DNA? From an earlier poster... I'm not sure about Near Death Expereinces... couldn't that jusy be the bodies way of making the last few moments bearable, or a chemical imbalance or something like an everyday dream? . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smiles 0 #23 August 14, 2005 QuoteWhat is the soul? Who/what has one? The earliest surviving Western philosophical view suggests that the soul makes living things alive. "For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" (Matthew 16:26) Many exchange the word "soul" with the word "life." The Ancient Greeks used the same word for 'alive' as for 'ensouled'. So ---I guess we all got soul!! I choose rather admit that I know what little I know, and confess that I do not know that which I do not know..........for that is the beginning of knowledge. SMileseustress. : a positive form of stress having a beneficial effect on health, motivation, performance, and emotional well-being. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #24 August 14, 2005 >Its just the fact that you lack a mind and the inherent >intelligence that goes with it.........and it shows Your one warning. Treat others as you want to be treated and all that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropoutdave 0 #25 August 14, 2005 QuoteWho/what has one? James Brown. OWWWWW ------------------------------------------------------ May Contain Nut traces...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
