Zep 0 #1 July 28, 2005 Just heard on the news, Today at 17.00hrs GMT the IRA will cease all terrorist activities and handover all firearms and munitions to the athuroties Hope it's true. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #2 July 28, 2005 Quote Just heard on the news, Today at 17.00hrs GMT the IRA will cease all terrorist activities and handover all firearms and munitions to the athuroties Hope it's true. today.reuters.com/news/NewsArticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2005-07-28T121936Z_01_L28489465_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-IRISH-IRA-DC.XML... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salsa_John 0 #3 July 28, 2005 Quote Just heard on the news, Today at 17.00hrs GMT the IRA will cease all terrorist activities and handover all firearms and munitions to the athuroties Hope it's true. Stop terroristic activities, good. Turn over firearms, not good. they are the only armed citizens in the UK. The British politicians need to return firearms rights to the good people and not polly coddle the criminals. the good citizens follow the laws and the criminals don't so why punish the good citizens. I wonder what the terrorists would do if they knew british citizens carried concealed firearms. "You did what?!?!" MUFF #3722, TDSM #72, Orfun #26, Nachos Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #4 July 28, 2005 Was a time when British citizens could have arms, Then over the years some dozy idiots started converting semi's to full an shooting everybody in sight, Not to mention holding kids hostage in local schools, I personally think if a person wants to carry a gun carry one, Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #5 July 28, 2005 the term is "mollycoddle" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #6 July 28, 2005 Wow - it took three posts for this to degrade into a view on the British Gun laws. If only we had things as good as the yanks... CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottishJohn 25 #7 July 28, 2005 QuoteTurn over firearms, not good. they are the only armed citizens in the UK. Surely this is more of a reason to disarm. And having the ability of carrying a concealed weapon is not going to help you in the event of an bombing campagn.---------------------------------------------------------------------- If you think my attitude stinks you should smell my fingers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #8 July 28, 2005 Thats the SC for you Just wait till John Rich wakes up. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #9 July 28, 2005 hehe, I'm still struggling with the logic myself - Terrorists decide to give up their TNT and machine guns... and this is somehow a bad thing... ... nope... still not gettting it.... ah wait - maybe it's because the TNT and machine guns were bought with American money, maybe that's why this is a bad thing? ... no... no, that doesn't quite make sense either... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #10 July 28, 2005 Quotehehe, I'm still struggling with the logic myself - Terrorists decide to give up their TNT and machine guns... and this is somehow a bad thing... ... nope... still not gettting it.... ah wait - maybe it's because the TNT and machine guns were bought with American money, maybe that's why this is a bad thing? ... no... no, that doesn't quite make sense either... It's more of a symbolic gesture. They aren't actually going to turn all their weapons over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #11 July 28, 2005 Actually that's precisely what they have been supposed to be doing now for some time. Their failure to prove that they have destroyed/handed over all of their weapons stocks is what's been holding up the peace process. Of course whether or not they actually will do what they say they're doing is another thing. We talking about terrorists here after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #12 July 28, 2005 QuoteActually that's precisely what they have been supposed to be doing now for some time. Their failure to prove that they have destroyed/handed over all of their weapons stocks is what's been holding up the peace process. Of course whether or not they actually will do what they say they're doing is another thing. We talking about terrorists here after all. Sorta like Saddam claiming he'd gotten rid of all his WMD's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #13 July 28, 2005 ALRIGHT!!! We got the guns, we got Iraq. Now we just need abortion, the liberal media, the religious right and we will have included everything speaker's corner has to offer. again. Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #14 July 28, 2005 nah - we'd need an outlandish conspiracy theory and something to insult at least one racial/sexual minority in order to make it a fully inclusive SC thread. Why not create post claiming God is a homo' who writes for a liberal newspaper and thinks Bush wants to start a war with Brazil over oil; and that's why we must go to church? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #15 July 28, 2005 I'm not sure i quite follow - how is a suicide bomber concerned that he might get shot by someone when he is preparing to blow himself up? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #16 July 28, 2005 QuoteI'm not sure i quite follow - how is a suicide bomber concerned that he might get shot by someone when he is preparing to blow himself up? Dying is obviously not what they are concerned about. Blowing themselves up and killing as many innocent people as possible is. Knowing they may not be able to succeed and their death would be for nothing could be somewhat of a deterrent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #17 July 28, 2005 I still don't get it - how, in the time it takes for someone to enter a carriage or a bus, sit down nonchalanty then either discreetly push a button or just sit there until a timer goes off, would arming us allow us to prevent them doing what i have just described? "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexCrowley 0 #18 July 28, 2005 What most brits fail to realize is the following basic law: When looking at gun statistics: US deaths by firearms in 2002 (inc suicide) 30,242 UK INJURIES* caused by firearms in 2002 747 But there is no connection between having a gun and shooting someone with it and not having a gun and not shooting someone with it, and you'd be a fool and a communist to suggest one.+ * Includes being used as blunt object. Stat excludes air rifles or imitation weapons. +Bill Hicks. TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #19 July 28, 2005 QuoteI still don't get it - how, in the time it takes for someone to enter a carriage or a bus, sit down nonchalanty then either discreetly push a button or just sit there until a timer goes off, would arming us allow us to prevent them doing what i have just described? You are correct that if they were undetected, a gun would be of no value. It's pretty hard to conceal a bomb on a hot day and given that most Brits are on high alert after the most recent bombings, it's more likely a bomber would be discovered. At present, there would be little a citizen could do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #20 July 28, 2005 Quotethe term is "mollycoddle" Polly-coddle means you're allowing terrorists to engage in parrot-military operations. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #21 July 28, 2005 bwahahahahahahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salsa_John 0 #22 July 28, 2005 most citizens did not turn their firearms into full auto or hold kids hostage etc but all arms were confiscated from the legal lawabiding owners Quote Was a time when British citizens could have arms, Then over the years some dozy idiots started converting semi's to full an shooting everybody in sight, Not to mention holding kids hostage in local schools, I personally think if a person wants to carry a gun carry one, mollycoddle? Thanks "You did what?!?!" MUFF #3722, TDSM #72, Orfun #26, Nachos Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caz 0 #23 July 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteI still don't get it - how, in the time it takes for someone to enter a carriage or a bus, sit down nonchalanty then either discreetly push a button or just sit there until a timer goes off, would arming us allow us to prevent them doing what i have just described? You are correct that if they were undetected, a gun would be of no value. It's pretty hard to conceal a bomb on a hot day and given that most Brits are on high alert after the most recent bombings, it's more likely a bomber would be discovered. At present, there would be little a citizen could do. This is our current weather here in London at the moment. If you take a look at todays weather for example, can you imagine how many things we all carry to work at the moment? Me this morning for example, as it is actually quite hot out there, had my laptop bag, my gym bag, a coat which I took off as soon as I got on the tube as its fecking hot on there, and an umbrella as it was raining when I left. Thats just me. And when you consider that everyone else is doing similar things, and that theres rarely room to breathe you're so crammed in on the tube in rush hour, do you honestly think we'lll be able to spot a potential terrorist planning on blowing himself up?? I really don't think we could possibly tell! Although on a funny side note, a skydiving friend of mine who is Muslim recalled down the pub the other night with great humour how she ended up offering to show some bloke on the tube her tuna sandwiches as she and her laptop bag were being eyed up suspiciously! ~~~ London Skydivers ~~~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #24 July 28, 2005 Quotebut all arms were confiscated from the legal lawabiding owners damn... guess I gotta go home now then and pull out all the guns I thought I legally owned and give em to the cops. That reminds me... I keep meaning to buy one of these. Would be real fun. Perfectly legal too, even here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salsa_John 0 #25 July 28, 2005 Quote And having the ability of carrying a concealed weapon is not going to help you in the event of an bombing campagn. it might. are you willing to take that chance? http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/3/27/223955.shtml http://www.rense.com/general9/gunlaw.htm it is a known fact that criminals fear potentially armed citizens more than armed law enforcement Also 99.99 percent of concealed carry permitees in Florida continue to stay crime free "You did what?!?!" MUFF #3722, TDSM #72, Orfun #26, Nachos Rodriguez Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
