storm1977 0 #1 July 26, 2005 OK serious question.... Since I can't find anything on the subject maybe someone else can. Since 9/11, What is the UNs stand on terrorism? Have there been any resolutions? Has there been any mention? The most anyone has seen them do is put up road blocks out side their buildings so they don't get blown up? I wonder now that it is not just the Isrealies and Americans problem if the UN will say or do something. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #2 July 26, 2005 Funny you should ask. Just today the UN is planning on defining "terrorism" and releasing a statement."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #3 July 26, 2005 They have been very busy as usual. Passing Resolutions and not enforcing them. Oh, and counting their Oil money. http://www.un.org/terrorism/gadoc.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #4 July 26, 2005 QuoteFunny you should ask. Just today the UN is planning on defining "terrorism" and releasing a statement. With this new Definition do you think the BBC will be able to call the "Bombers" Terrorist now? ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #5 July 26, 2005 QuoteFunny you should ask. Just today the UN is planning on defining "terrorism" and releasing a statement. Seriously though.... 40 yrs of terrorist in Isreal, the IRA in England and Ireland (the list goes on) and the world body is deciding today to "DEFINE" terrorism. Not vow to stop it, just define it!!!! Wow, I am almost speechless.... (almost) ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #6 July 26, 2005 Quote I wonder now that it is not just the Isrealies and Americans problem if the UN will say or do something. Has the UN ever really done anything? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #7 July 26, 2005 Oh, and Koffi sends his condolences to the "Bombing" Victims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #8 July 26, 2005 QuoteSeriously though.... 40 yrs of terrorist in Isreal, the IRA in England and Ireland (the list goes on) and the world body is deciding today to "DEFINE" terrorism. I believe Syria and Irag are the leading bodies on the committed to define terrorism. I can just see it OFFICIAL UN DEFINITION OF "TERRORISM" - Any act direct or subtle involving Israeli or US economic or commerce activities - inclucing but not limited to: conducting business, establishing tariffs, walking, breathing. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #9 July 26, 2005 http://www.un.org/terrorism/ga.htm Unfortunately, to download any of the pds files I had to temporarily shut down ZoneAlarm, but I did download one and present it here for your viewing pleasure. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #10 July 26, 2005 QuoteQuote I wonder now that it is not just the Isrealies and Americans problem if the UN will say or do something. Has the UN ever really done anything? Yes. They have spent LOTS of money. Other than that? I can't think of anything offhand. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 July 26, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote I wonder now that it is not just the Isrealies and Americans problem if the UN will say or do something. Has the UN ever really done anything? Yes. They have spent LOTS of money. Other than that? I can't think of anything offhand. Walt They condemn injustices. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #12 July 26, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I wonder now that it is not just the Isrealies and Americans problem if the UN will say or do something. Has the UN ever really done anything? Yes. They have spent LOTS of money. Other than that? I can't think of anything offhand. Walt They condemn injustices. Maybe we, the good folks who populat Speakers Corner should volunteer to replace the UN. We could do the same thing a lot cheaper. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #13 July 26, 2005 QuoteOK serious question.... Since I can't find anything on the subject maybe someone else can. Since 9/11, What is the UNs stand on terrorism? Have there been any resolutions? Has there been any mention? The most anyone has seen them do is put up road blocks out side their buildings so they don't get blown up? I wonder now that it is not just the Isrealies and Americans problem if the UN will say or do something. Shouldn't you be crediting Bill O'Reilly with these statements? I heard them all on the O'Reilly Factor last night. While I agree with the statements made, I cannot stand when people take them from someone else and post them as if they were their own. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #14 July 26, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote I wonder now that it is not just the Isrealies and Americans problem if the UN will say or do something. Has the UN ever really done anything? Yes. They have spent LOTS of money. Other than that? I can't think of anything offhand. Walt They condemn injustices. Maybe we, the good folks who populat Speakers Corner should volunteer to replace the UN. We could do the same thing a lot cheaper. Walt Good idea. I'd be willing to work for half the amount of kick-backs Koffi gets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #15 July 26, 2005 QuoteOK serious question.... Since I can't find anything on the subject maybe someone else can. Since 9/11, What is the UNs stand on terrorism? Have there been any resolutions? Has there been any mention? A list of actions taken by the UN, the Security Council and the General Assembly of member states is available at http://www.un.org/terrorism/sc.htm. Immediately following the September 11th attacks, the UN Security Council adopted Resolution 1373 explicitly condemning the attacks on NYC, the Pentagon and recognizing the loss of life in Pennsylvania. 1373 imposed sweeping legal obligations on all 191 UN member states focusing on freezing terrorist assets and non-military civil methods. 1373 also acknowledged the inherent right of each member state to self-defense within international law. Res 1373 also established the Counter Terrorism Committee (CTC) facilitating intergovernmental assistance in interdicting terrorist activities in smaller member states without the vast resources of the US. It's complementary to the Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI). If the two could 'play well together' it would work even better! UN Res 1540 http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N04/328/43/PDF/N0432843.pdf was passed in 2004, which is something of an omnibus anti-terrorism resolution. A significant portion of the UN work has focused on traditional non-proliferation and arms control means - strengthening inspections via the IAEA, resurrecting the Biological Weapons Convention, securing loose 'nukes' and unsecured/undersecured fissile material in Russia. Annan's High-Level Panel on Threats, Challenges, and Change also recognized terrorism as a key challenge for the UN. When the UN was charted, sixty years ago, the focus was on strengthening states. Now, the focus has shifted to protecting people. blue skies, marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #16 July 26, 2005 No because I didn't see O'reilly last night, however, I did listen to his radio show yesterday and he had some one on discussing this issue. So maybe Bill should Credit the caller as should I. I would not feel the need to credit him anyway for a question or an Idea. If he had done work or research and had concluded something, they maybe I should. But merely listening to a radio broadcast and agreeing with a caller then asking people in "My circle" there opinion hardly warrents credit. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #17 July 26, 2005 QuoteShouldn't you be crediting Bill O'Reilly with these statements? I heard them all on the O'Reilly Factor last night. While I agree with the statements made, I cannot stand when people take them from someone else and post them as if they were their own. Maybe Mr. O did the stealing! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #18 July 26, 2005 Ok, so they condemned a bunch of stuff, and formed a committee or two, but did they really do anything useful? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #19 July 26, 2005 QuoteOk, so they condemned a bunch of stuff, and formed a committee or two, but did they really do anything useful? No. But then again, the U.N. really doesn't have any power without the willingness of the member countries. When you have member countries who say one thing and do another, it renders the entire organization impotent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #20 July 26, 2005 They're busy planning on constructing a new building in New York, in which they will work, while their old building is being remodeled. Donald Trump has told them that's a ridiculous plan, and has offered to do the job for them for half of their planned cost. Once again, the U.N. is expert at wasting other people's money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #21 July 26, 2005 QuoteFunny you should ask. Just today the UN is planning on defining "terrorism" and releasing a statement. It is not easy to define terrorism without including Israel and the U.S in the lists. You know, that silly thing about bombing civilians in Iraq and selective murders in Palestina. Just give them time, they will come out with some what-ifs that will make Israel and U.S look like the good guys. By the way, why do you guys protest so much about not enforcing resolutions? I mean, how many resolutions have Israel broke? You surely don´t want to enforce those resolutions, do you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #22 July 26, 2005 QuoteIt is not easy to define terrorism without including Israel and the U.S in the lists. You know, that silly thing about bombing civilians in Iraq and selective murders in Palestina. Perfect reason why nothing is being done. People just like you. Bombing civilians in Iraq was during the course of a WAR and it was done by UNIFORMED TROOPS and cilvilian targets were not the objective. Please don't let the facts confuse you. Just keep defending the terrorists like you always do. QuoteBy the way, why do you guys protest so much about not enforcing resolutions? I mean, how many resolutions have Israel broke? You surely don´t want to enforce those resolutions, do you? How many resolutions has the UN said they would go force Israel to comply, how many?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
