Is it ok to kill for money?

[Zenister 0]

according to this study

it is 4%...

some of her conclusions seemed a bit reactionary and designed to sell her other books, but it is an interesting read...

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[AlexCrowley 0]

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{{Sorry for the rant, I get wierded out by the 'all or nothing' PC types - Bot's got two key points in his note - 'mistake' self explanatory and "just for money" which is nonsense. But that last one just won't be cleared up in some people's minds}}

We share something in common, I get weirded out by the 'bomb the fuck out of anything that dont talk American' types.

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[Botellines 0]

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You really don't understand shit do you?

Probably not, it is this little thing called morals that kill all the fun.

See, I know myself, and in a situation where my life is at risk, and in a fraction of a second i have to decide wether the normal looking guy in frot of me is trying to kill me or not, i am not 100% sure i would take the right option, thus getting killed, or killing the other (innocent or not).
Now, i don´t usually carry around guns bigger than my dick, so i am a bit afraid to die, and i know my capabilities. The temptation to shoot to kill just in case would be too great. Therefore making the possibility to kill an innocent go from IF to WHEN.
Now, i don´t want to bear on my conscience the guilt of ending with an innocent life, if i have to do it for a greater cause, i will join the army and hope the government know what they are doing, but i would NEVER take that chance with someone else´s life for money.

It is just not my style.

I don´t want to understand that shit.

[Deuce 1]

You put too many conditions on it for it to be a valid moral crossroads for you.

For this question to be relevant to you, and it can't under the current conditions, would be for you to be highly trained, right now, and armed, right now, and some hooligan about to kill somebody in your presence where you could interrupt that reality, right now, with your weapon and skill. You would be employed in a job where you mostly tell people how to find the bathrooms, but are also trained in the use of semiautomatic weaponry.

So? Save a life by taking one? Give that month's paycheck back? "Sorry hon, I couldn't pay the mortgage cause I killed a guy this month and refused my paycheck"

You'll notice the soldiers who have killed aren't in this thread. If I had had to ever blast somebody open I wouldn't feel like repying to your simplistic arguments either.

Gendarmes? I'm asking. They are the cops with the machine guns, like the special cops in Italy (Carabinieri?).

They get paid to look really, really, cool. Great uniforms. Occasionally, OH SHIT!, they earn their money by blasting folks who don't follow the program.

In the US, we have one kind of cop, the kind who wears armor and carries two pistols and has a carbine and a shotgun in the car.

Most of the time he or she tells people where to get something good to eat, or where the bathroom is. Every now and again, they get mixed up in scary shit where people don't cooperate and they shoot them.

In Europe (yeah, I've been there a few times) there are different cops for the shooting than the bathroom questions.

Argh.

[SkyDekker 1,465]

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So what do you think is the true percentage of the total population that would be diagnosed as clinically deviant violent psychotics (pulled wings off of birds as kids, tortured cats in the garage, killed a kid just see him die - kind of personality?)

25% ?
50% ?

or are those numbers just applying to Coalition service members? not to actual 'humans'

edit: I mean way to go out on a limb with that opinion. I'm against just the "psychotic soldiers" not the other 'cool' ones.

Touched a nerve there rehmwa?

I have no idea what the percentage is. I generally think good of human kind so I would think it is a pretty low percentage. On the other hand, thinking that it doesn't happen is pretty naive....I have met more than one person who enjoys killing humans and they weren't criminals.

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I'm against just the "psychotic soldiers" not the other 'cool' ones

I never said that, maybe you think soldiers are cool, I certainly have never. I don't see how anything that involves killing is "cool".....

[rehmwa 2]

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{{Sorry for the rant, I get wierded out by the 'all or nothing' PC types - Bot's got two key points in his note - 'mistake' self explanatory and "just for money" which is nonsense. But that last one just won't be cleared up in some people's minds}}

We share something in common, I get weirded out by the 'bomb the fuck out of anything that dont talk American' types.

I agree.


Dekker - Small nerve touched. Yes. since you "have met more than one person who enjoys killing humans and they weren't criminals" then I can see where it comes from. It's not naive to recognize that most are decent and you have to watch for the exceptions. It is completely out of line to establish an opinion on all soldiers based on a couple 'People you know'.

Edit: If you are not generalizing, then I stand by my statement that it is pretty obtuse to take a position against the extremely small subpop of homicidal maniacs - unless you are running for political position, then it happens all the time. Good luck, I'll vote for you

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[valcore 0]

What about Snipers for the US Military. They knew full well that they were going to kill someone when they VOLUNTEERED.

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30,000,000 legal firearm owners killed no one yesterday.

[AlexCrowley 0]

I think the job description of Sniper is available in most standing armies across the world. There are some people who do it for fun.

From my understanding you dont just answer a Wanted ad. You work in the infantry and when there's an opportunity you'll get the tap if you've demonstrated the skill and mentality for it.

So that'd be a bad example, since you serve in the infantry first.

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[mnealtx 0]

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What about Snipers for the US Military. They knew full well that they were going to kill someone when they VOLUNTEERED.

Any person that is service or has served in the military knows that possibility is there when they VOLUNTEERED

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[B.A.D.D. 0]

the majority of the soldiers in iraq have not even fired their weapons unless it was at a range in kuiate, before they came into country. with the rest of the soldiers that have fired their weapons at the enemy, i'd say prob 80% didn't even aim or even hit their target. and when they do they usually kill civillians who didn't even have a weapon in the first place. which is why all these trials are going on against us soldiers for war crimes. every soldier in the military knows who the "real shooters" are.

now to the question is it all right to kill for money? according to the bible its not ok to kill anyone. " thou shall not kill." but i personally beleive that killing out of necessidy is ok. or killing someone that is non-productive and worthless to society. (everywhere in the world)

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[AlexCrowley 0]

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now to the question is it all right to kill for money? according to the bible its not ok to kill anyone. " thou shall not kill." but i personally beleive that killing out of necessidy is ok. or killing someone that is non-productive and worthless to society. (everywhere in the world)

Its interesting to me how it's common to choose an exception that makes sense to our own sense of morality.

Personally I agree: Killing is never ok, except in cases where killing would be funny, or give a sense of personal satisfaction - kinda like masturbation, but involving someone else - in a non-sexual, more 'terminating life functions' way.

TV's got them images, TV's got them all, nothing's shocking.