waltappel 1 #51 July 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteMakes me wonder about the hiring practices of PD and the citizenship of the PD employees. Walt Why should it? Plenty of legal immigrants can't speak English well. Things like this are how they learn. I agree, but is it not an INDIVIDUAL responsibility? Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #52 July 25, 2005 All this because a guy can't read. Amazing. You know a lot of native-born Americans can't read too, right? I'm lucky I blend in better than many native-born Americans do. Nobody ever questions my legality. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #53 July 25, 2005 QuoteThis thread has driven home to me how lucky I am. It's driven home to me how absolutely obsessed with Political Correctness that many people are. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #54 July 25, 2005 QuoteAll this because a guy can't read. Amazing. You know a lot of native-born Americans can't read too, right? I'm lucky I blend in better than many native-born Americans do. Nobody ever questions my legality. _Am You're losing me here. Can you please clarify? Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #55 July 25, 2005 >I am an American and I think it is a real embarrassment when an >American goes to another country and shows that type of arrogance. I think it's a real embarrassement when an american goes to another country, doesn't know the language _and_ expects to be understood when he speaks english. I spent a month in Africa, and outside the big cities where French was spoken I couldn't speak a word of the language (Zarma.) Since there was almost no chance I would ever use it again I didn't spend much effort learning it. Usually wasn't a problem. But then, I didn't try to just speak english loudly enough to be understood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #56 July 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteMy Spanish instructor told us that if, we weren't speaking the language properly... yelling does'nt make it understood any better. Chuck Your Spanish instructor was, of course, quite correct, but it has mystified me for a very long time why Americans seem to think that speaking English LOUDLY when they are in a foreign country will help people understand them. Walt ______________________________________ I've noticed that, myself! cHUCK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #57 July 25, 2005 Quote>I am an American and I think it is a real embarrassment when an >American goes to another country and shows that type of arrogance. I think it's a real embarrassement when an american goes to another country, doesn't know the language _and_ expects to be understood when he speaks english. I spent a month in Africa, and outside the big cities where French was spoken I couldn't speak a word of the language (Zarma.) Since there was almost no chance I would ever use it again I didn't spend much effort learning it. Usually wasn't a problem. But then, I didn't try to just speak english loudly enough to be understood. But, but, but you're Billvon!!! You know everything!!! I know the above may seem like a dig at you, but please take it as a compliment. If I had not read your postings on rec.skydiving and dz.com for years, and actually had the pleasure of hanging out with you on a catwalk under a bridge in WV, I'd *swear* that the "Billvon" login is a personna that is used by a large group of supergeniuses that possess the entirety of knowledge in the universe! I continue to marvel at the depth of your knowledge and you're ability to respond with thoughtful comments that actually make people THINK. Ok, back to regular programming. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #58 July 25, 2005 Quote>I am an American and I think it is a real embarrassment when an >American goes to another country and shows that type of arrogance. I think it's a real embarrassement when an american goes to another country, doesn't know the language _and_ expects to be understood when he speaks english. I spent a month in Africa, and outside the big cities where French was spoken I couldn't speak a word of the language (Zarma.) Since there was almost no chance I would ever use it again I didn't spend much effort learning it. Usually wasn't a problem. But then, I didn't try to just speak english loudly enough to be understood. Did you try speaking loud and slowly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #59 July 25, 2005 QuoteQuote>I am an American and I think it is a real embarrassment when an >American goes to another country and shows that type of arrogance. I think it's a real embarrassement when an american goes to another country, doesn't know the language _and_ expects to be understood when he speaks english. I spent a month in Africa, and outside the big cities where French was spoken I couldn't speak a word of the language (Zarma.) Since there was almost no chance I would ever use it again I didn't spend much effort learning it. Usually wasn't a problem. But then, I didn't try to just speak english loudly enough to be understood. Did you try speaking loud and slowly? Ok, THAT is what I should have said! Americans speaking English LOUDLY and SLOWLY and expected non-English speakers to understand them is, to me, one of those cultural references that ranks right up there with making the comment that [some exotic food] tastes "like chicken". A truly indelible piece of Americana. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #60 July 25, 2005 >. . . one of those cultural references that ranks right up there with >making the comment that [some exotic food] tastes "like chicken". It was in Africa that I first discovered that sometimes chicken doesn't taste like chicken. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #61 July 25, 2005 Quote>. . . one of those cultural references that ranks right up there with >making the comment that [some exotic food] tastes "like chicken". It was in Africa that I first discovered that sometimes chicken doesn't taste like chicken. It's not nice to post a tease like that and not give details. Let's hear 'em! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sen.Blutarsky 0 #62 July 25, 2005 QuoteIt's not nice to post a tease like that and not give details. Let's hear 'em! Whatever his description, Icelandic puffin tastes worse based on my trials, although Kolla may possibly disagree Madam -dottir. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #63 July 26, 2005 Quote>. . . one of those cultural references that ranks right up there with >making the comment that [some exotic food] tastes "like chicken". It was in Africa that I first discovered that sometimes chicken doesn't taste like chicken. And I can confirm that both Crocodile and Snake tastes a little like chicken... and I am not an American.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #64 July 26, 2005 QuoteNobody ever questions my legality. Papers, please. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #65 July 26, 2005 There are plenty of native born US Citizens who can't read. Illiteracy isn't solely an immigrant issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #66 July 26, 2005 QuoteThere are plenty of native born US Citizens who can't read. Illiteracy isn't solely an immigrant issue. I have no clue how inability to read was brought up. I never said ANYTHING about it! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #67 July 26, 2005 This entire thread is a spin off of a thread about PD employees asking their employer for help with reading skills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #68 July 26, 2005 QuoteThis entire thread is a spin off of a thread about PD employees asking their employer for help with reading skills. Thanks. Went back and re-read it. Sure enough. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites