kallend 2,148 #76 July 25, 2005 We have ample proof that the President was wrong over and over again. If it wasn't lies, then he's just one very unlucky dude. PS, have YOU seen the Archangel Gabriel? If not, how would you know...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #77 July 25, 2005 QuoteThe purpose of the hood has always been to offer the cowards an amount of personal anonymity while also offering them a symbolic terrorism tool. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And the black panthers did the same thing. Lame Bill. Really lame. Quade called the KKK cowards. Full text here: Q: The cowards want free speech but to not be held accountable. R: So you don't respect the right to free speach if it bothers you? Q: The purpose of the hood has always been to offer the cowards an amount of personal anonymity while also offering them a symbolic terrorism tool. R: And the black panthers did the same thing. Q: If the fuckers want to spew hate speech that's their right, but they should also have to to be held accountable for their public actions. R: Held accountable to a peaceful protest? So they are not allowed to assemble and wear what they want? I find it funny that you support the 1st amendment in every other case, but you are against it here. As long as they are being peaceful, they should be allowed to do as they please. If they break the law then they should be held accountable as anyone else would be. Your hatred for the group is the only reason you are against their right. That is censorship or their rights...If this was a different group you would support them. Q: Removing the hoods makes that possible. R: No, arresting them for breaking the law if they do makes it possible. Your hatred for them and denying them their right to free speach is sad. At least the ACLU is keeping the same line and defending them...To bad you are letting your bias judge them, and you are allowing that to make it OK for you to not respet their right under the 1st amendment. End So Quade called the KKK cowards, I mearly pointed out how the Black Panthers did the same thing he was claiming the KKK did. Not even close Bill....You are not doing well, feel OK?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #78 July 25, 2005 QuoteWe have ample proof that the President was wrong over and over again. Then IMPEACH HIM. Call your Congressman....Give him the proof and go get him. QuotePS, have YOU seen the Archangel Gabriel? If not, how would you know... No, but I fiqured he would be taller"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #79 July 25, 2005 So you insult Black Panthers and then hide behind your keyboard. Check. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #80 July 25, 2005 Since you definitely show signs of ammnesia, let me help you a little bit with the reference to pedophilia, and your comment of him reaching heaven at 14? Clicky As far not being my words, since you like childish games of selective editing, it was NOT MY WORDS THAT A KID AT 14 IS IN HEAVEN, but all yours. And that you like to do forbidden things? Does this include pedophilia? Could you even focus your attention a little? Again, as your shooting comments goes, you have no idea of what the US armed forces is about, and how they train the soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen. You prefer to believe we have the same training regime of that of Al-Qaida, that actually targets innocents!. More power to you, am glad your world view is a cookie cutter As for the sentencing, you are just not happy that they got a fair trial, got a fair and law abiding sentence, for abusing prisoners, (not killed or maimed may I remind you) and got so far about 6 to 8 months each one, plus a bad conduct discharge (that is an actual life sentence, or one that will take over 20 years to circumvent). You added the killing, it was never proved that the ones indicted ever killed anyone. You are just not happy with any of the sentences given, regarldess of your lack of knowledge on this particular subject. Where is your outrage at these animals decapitating innocents via Life TV? You seem to really admire these types... You never count the innocents the right way, first, you assume that all Iraqi deaths are innocents, then do nothing to give a number of that is attributed to US collateral damage....so far you are stuck on 10,000 (check your own posts) even when the TOTAL Iraqi deaths where tallied at that amount, you never made an effort to make a difference in the actual US collateral deaths.... So again, could you just for once give a number on such subject? And state your acknolwedgment that at least the US goes to investigate all these cases, where the targets where not innocents, which is hardly ever the same as with terrorist targeting innocents. Flame away!!"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #81 July 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteI didn't realize you'd become a religious man, Kallend Having a good day are we Jay? Wendy W. Oh...it's not bad. Thanks! Hope yours is the same. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #82 July 25, 2005 QuoteSo you insult Black Panthers and then hide behind your keyboard. Check Bill I'll provide the quote again...You seem to have a problem reading these days. QuoteQ: The purpose of the hood has always been to offer the cowards an amount of personal anonymity while also offering them a symbolic terrorism tool. R: And the black panthers did the same thing. My coment was about the hood, anonymity, and being a tool for fear. Now, maybe in Cali they don't bother to read for comprehension, but I never called them cowards. If I had said the BP are cowards THAT would be me calling them cowards. Here is a made up conversation to show my point...do try to follow along. Bob: Did ya hear Jay bounced...He pulled low and his Cypres fired, what an idiot. Ron: Ya know Mike pulls low, maybe we should tell him this. Now MOST people will see that I didn't call Mike an Idiot.... But then again you are not most people. Go Fish Bill, Go Fish."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #83 July 25, 2005 QuoteI not only think there cowards I think there scum. Money for blood I have no respect for that. If they really believed in the so-called cause they would have joined right? Ill say it again I have no respect and neither should any one else for a person who is willing to kill for money And would you have the balls to say it to them? If i say yes would you belive me?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #82 July 25, 2005 QuoteSo you insult Black Panthers and then hide behind your keyboard. Check Bill I'll provide the quote again...You seem to have a problem reading these days. QuoteQ: The purpose of the hood has always been to offer the cowards an amount of personal anonymity while also offering them a symbolic terrorism tool. R: And the black panthers did the same thing. My coment was about the hood, anonymity, and being a tool for fear. Now, maybe in Cali they don't bother to read for comprehension, but I never called them cowards. If I had said the BP are cowards THAT would be me calling them cowards. Here is a made up conversation to show my point...do try to follow along. Bob: Did ya hear Jay bounced...He pulled low and his Cypres fired, what an idiot. Ron: Ya know Mike pulls low, maybe we should tell him this. Now MOST people will see that I didn't call Mike an Idiot.... But then again you are not most people. Go Fish Bill, Go Fish."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #83 July 25, 2005 QuoteI not only think there cowards I think there scum. Money for blood I have no respect for that. If they really believed in the so-called cause they would have joined right? Ill say it again I have no respect and neither should any one else for a person who is willing to kill for money And would you have the balls to say it to them? If i say yes would you belive me?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #84 July 25, 2005 QuoteIn Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I not only think there cowards I think there scum. Money for blood I have no respect for that. If they really believed in the so-called cause they would have joined right? Ill say it again I have no respect and neither should any one else for a person who is willing to kill for money -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And would you have the balls to say it to them? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If i say yes would you belive me? I guess I'd have to wouldn't I? BTW we have our very own Contractor on these boards...Clay AKA freeflir29. Is he a coward and scum?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #85 July 25, 2005 I can only imagine him not showing respect or spitting on the face of Sammy Gravano and tell him he has no respect for such a scumbag that kills for money.Quote Sammy Gravano! Are you comparing him to the mercenaries that are closely monitored by our government?, or are you comparing our troops to a scumbag like him?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #86 July 25, 2005 QuoteI guess I'd have to wouldn't I? BTW we have our very own Contractor on these boards...Clay AKA freeflir29. Is he a coward and scum? If he is willing to kill for money yes. I’ll even make it clearer. Clay if you are willing to kill people for money I consider you scum. Not sure if you are or not, But if you are well now you know how I feel about you. Let me ask you Ron how do you feel about our troops shooting people and just driving off? I don’t know I guess you think calling a mercenary a coward is more important then innocent Iraqis getting killed every day. Good to know that about you.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #87 July 25, 2005 QuoteI not only think there cowards I think there scum. Money for blood I have no respect for that. If they really believed in the so-called cause they would have joined right? Ill say it again I have no respect and neither should any one else for a person who is willing to kill for money Do you know what the contractors are doing in Iraq? Some of them are my friends. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #88 July 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuotehttp://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-civilians25jul25,0,815578.story?coll=la-home-headlines As very sad and disturbing as that story is, I can easily understand why it happens. Americans in Iraq are targets every single moment they are there. Who wouldn't be very, very paranoid in a situation like that? Walt Who has more right to be on the streets in Iraq, an Iraqi citizen or a member of an uninvited foreign occupation force? Getting to sound more and more like France in 1943. What about the non-Iraqi insurgents that are doing the suicide bombings and the car bombings? I'd be ok with ALL foreigners, including us, getting the hell out of Iraq! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #89 July 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteI not only think there cowards I think there scum. Money for blood I have no respect for that. If they really believed in the so-called cause they would have joined right? Ill say it again I have no respect and neither should any one else for a person who is willing to kill for money Do you know what the contractors are doing in Iraq? Some of them are my friends. Derek I don't know what they are doing dude. Read the whol thread befor you get . If they are killing people for money i don't care if there your freinds. There has to be something wrong with any one who can say " 5000K a month damn i'll shoot anybody". Sorry my morals are not for sale for any price.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,116 #90 July 25, 2005 >Clay if you are willing to kill people for money I consider you scum. Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #91 July 25, 2005 QuoteI don't know what they are doing dude. You should not suggest they are killing for money then. QuoteIf they are killing people for money i don't care if there your freinds. There has to be something wrong with any one who can say " 5000K a month damn i'll shoot anybody". They are not killing for money. They do not go and hunt people down. They defend themselves and break contact, defensive tactics, not offensive. QuoteSorry my morals are not for sale for any price. Nor are theirs, doing a very dangerous job very different from the troop's mission. Do bad things happen? Yes. That is the nature of combat, always has been, always will be. We have made an effort and great strides in limiting death and destruction. They are human, doing the best they can, in VERY difficult circumstances. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #92 July 25, 2005 Like I said dude read the whole thread. I didn’t say all mercenaries are killers. I made a statement that I will not change. If you kill people for money then you are scum and worthless in my eyes. Now Ron mentioned Clay. I don’t know Clay or know what he is doing there(Think he is a funny guy from his posts that is all I know about him). That’s why I keep on repeating the same thing. If you kill people for money then…………… you know the rest. Now if you have friend, family, or you your self have no problem killing someone for money you know how I feel about you. Honestly I don’t see what the confusion is about.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Botellines 0 #93 July 25, 2005 QuoteSince you definitely show signs of ammnesia, let me help you a little bit with the reference to pedophilia, and your comment of him reaching heaven at 14? Clicky As far not being my words, since you like childish games of selective editing, it was NOT MY WORDS THAT A KID AT 14 IS IN HEAVEN, but all yours. And that you like to do forbidden things? Does this include pedophilia? Could you even focus your attention a little? Come on, you have posted a link! how are you going to stop people now from visiting the thread and put things into context. They are going to laugh at your posts!!! I remember when i was 14 that i had fantasies with a friend of my cousin, she was in her twenties and she was studying to be a nurse. Oh man, was she good looking. But then again, i have always had a healthy sexual life, had i remained virgin till my thirties i would probably see things diferently. Please, let´s stick to the subject. If you want to talk about paedophilia, i suggest you start your own thread. (after reading the rules, no one wants to see you banned) QuoteAgain, as your shooting comments goes, you have no idea of what the US armed forces is about, and how they train the soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen. You prefer to believe we have the same training regime of that of Al-Qaida, that actually targets innocents!. More power to you, am glad your world view is a cookie cutter I very much doubt that the U.S military is trained to shoot and drive by without even checking if they are dead or alive or even if they commited a mistake. You say you are training with the U.S marines, right? Regarding that thing of targetting innocents, that is what they did, didn´t they? They target them, kill them, and were innocents. Must be the language barrier. QuoteAs for the sentencing, you are just not happy that they got a fair trial, got a fair and law abiding sentence, for abusing prisoners, (not killed or maimed may I remind you) and got so far about 6 to 8 months each one, plus a bad conduct discharge (that is an actual life sentence, or one that will take over 20 years to circumvent). You added the killing, it was never proved that the ones indicted ever killed anyone. You are just not happy with any of the sentences given, regarldess of your lack of knowledge on this particular subject. Okay, so 6 to 8 months to each for torturing an innocent civilian. You are damn right, i am not happy with the sentence. How much would you get in the U.S for stealing a TV? Can you explain how the fuck a bad conduct discharge is a life sentence? Big deal, dude, do you think that they actually care after torturing a civilian. What other option is there, calling him a hero? And on top of that, are you going to deny that no one died at abu grahib do to abuses? For god´s shake, dude, be serious, if you don´t want to post any more, i will let you say the last word to make you happy, but don´t post that crap because it will ruin your credibility in DZ. QuoteWhere is your outrage at these animals decapitating innocents via Life TV? You seem to really admire these types... mercenaries mind you. And a mercenary outside his country is rarely innocent. QuoteYou never count the innocents the right way, first, you assume that all Iraqi deaths are innocents, then do nothing to give a number of that is attributed to US collateral damage....so far you are stuck on 10,000 (check your own posts) even when the TOTAL Iraqi deaths where tallied at that amount, you never made an effort to make a difference in the actual US collateral deaths.... So again, could you just for once give a number on such subject? And state your acknolwedgment that at least the US goes to investigate all these cases, where the targets where not innocents, which is hardly ever the same as with terrorist targeting innocents. Okay dude, you say the figure, and i take your word for it. How many innocent civilians have died in Irak because of U.S mistake? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #94 July 25, 2005 QuoteClay if you are willing to kill people for money I consider you scum. Wow. You don;t know him, but you think he is scum....I have to admit, I am shocked. So much for getting to know the person. QuoteLet me ask you Ron how do you feel about our troops shooting people and just driving off? Depends on the situation. If it is as the artical wrote...then its wrong. I don't blindly defend our troops. I DO give them the benefit of the doubt. It seems your default is to damn them. However, I was trained by the US Army as an Infantryman...So I know a little more than you about ROE...But that has never stopped you from claiming things you don't know. There are cases where you hit and run, or take fire, return fire and break contact as fast as possible. QuoteI don’t know I guess you think calling a mercenary a coward is more important then innocent Iraqis getting killed every day. No, but its important to know who you assume to be a coward, and who you assume to be scum. Funny thing is that you seem to defend the terrorists at every turn while you attack our troops at every chance....Good to know that about you."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Hooknswoop 19 #95 July 25, 2005 QuoteI didn’t say all mercenaries are killers. Never said you did. Do you think the contractors are killing for money? Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #96 July 25, 2005 QuoteClay if you are willing to kill people for money I consider you scum. Wow. You don;t know him, but you think he is scum....I have to admit, I am shocked. So much for getting to know the person. Quote Wow Ron you should get a job working for Fox news? Did you miss that whole IF you kill people for money part? You seem to miss a lot of facts and just see what you want. Thank god this is in writing you can look back and let me know if you missed the IF part.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goose491 0 #97 July 25, 2005 Ron, Quick newsflash: This thread is relating to an article which tells the story of American troops shooting innocents and then driving away. First off, I cannot believe you find someone calling them cowards to be a bigger offense. (Even if he didn't have the guts to say it to their faces there cowboy.) Secondly, why get all hung up on this and distract from the actual topic of this thread? How little America values the life of non-Americans. Confused, they may be. But cowardice is the key factor here displayed when the men shot before knowing they were actually threatened (shooting out of fear) and when they drove off (fear of reprisal for their actions) I would make no reservations about telling either of them this. If it got me shot, I'd of done my part to show just how twisted this is; to give people license to treat life like garbage... There's dying for your statement for ya. There is an Iraqi police general in a hospital bed who confirms the troops had no idea who they were shooting at and clearly didn't care. This is cowardice. I now return you to your regularily sheduled banter about America and how great it is. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Alias 0 #98 July 25, 2005 QuoteHowever, I was trained by the US Army as an Infantryman...So I know a little more than you about ROE... Ron - do you know what the current ROE is in Iraq? Carpe Diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #99 July 25, 2005 I don’t make general statements about anyone. There is good and bad everywhere. We were talking about mercenaries not the people there who are helping to build Iraq, and even then I made a point to mention the ones who are willing to kill for money. Really is it that confusing?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #100 July 25, 2005 QuoteRon, Quick newsflash: This thread is relating to an article which tells the story of American troops shooting innocents and then driving away. First off, I cannot believe you find someone calling them cowards to be a bigger offense. (Even if he didn't have the guts to say it to their faces there cowboy.) Secondly, why get all hung up on this and distract from the actual topic of this thread? How little America values the life of non-Americans. Confused, they may be. But cowardice is the key factor here displayed when the men shot before knowing they were actually threatened (shooting out of fear) and when they drove off (fear of reprisal for their actions) I would make no reservations about telling either of them this. If it got me shot, I'd of done my part to show just how twisted this is; to give people license to treat life like garbage... There's dying for your statement for ya. There is an Iraqi police general in a hospital bed who confirms the troops had no idea who they were shooting at and clearly didn't care. This is cowardice. I now return you to your regularily sheduled banter about America and how great it is. I had mentioned the same thing, But you put it much better then i did. 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Darius11 12 #86 July 25, 2005 QuoteI guess I'd have to wouldn't I? BTW we have our very own Contractor on these boards...Clay AKA freeflir29. Is he a coward and scum? If he is willing to kill for money yes. I’ll even make it clearer. Clay if you are willing to kill people for money I consider you scum. Not sure if you are or not, But if you are well now you know how I feel about you. Let me ask you Ron how do you feel about our troops shooting people and just driving off? I don’t know I guess you think calling a mercenary a coward is more important then innocent Iraqis getting killed every day. Good to know that about you.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #87 July 25, 2005 QuoteI not only think there cowards I think there scum. Money for blood I have no respect for that. If they really believed in the so-called cause they would have joined right? Ill say it again I have no respect and neither should any one else for a person who is willing to kill for money Do you know what the contractors are doing in Iraq? Some of them are my friends. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #88 July 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuotehttp://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-civilians25jul25,0,815578.story?coll=la-home-headlines As very sad and disturbing as that story is, I can easily understand why it happens. Americans in Iraq are targets every single moment they are there. Who wouldn't be very, very paranoid in a situation like that? Walt Who has more right to be on the streets in Iraq, an Iraqi citizen or a member of an uninvited foreign occupation force? Getting to sound more and more like France in 1943. What about the non-Iraqi insurgents that are doing the suicide bombings and the car bombings? I'd be ok with ALL foreigners, including us, getting the hell out of Iraq! Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #89 July 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteI not only think there cowards I think there scum. Money for blood I have no respect for that. If they really believed in the so-called cause they would have joined right? Ill say it again I have no respect and neither should any one else for a person who is willing to kill for money Do you know what the contractors are doing in Iraq? Some of them are my friends. Derek I don't know what they are doing dude. Read the whol thread befor you get . If they are killing people for money i don't care if there your freinds. There has to be something wrong with any one who can say " 5000K a month damn i'll shoot anybody". Sorry my morals are not for sale for any price.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #90 July 25, 2005 >Clay if you are willing to kill people for money I consider you scum. Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #91 July 25, 2005 QuoteI don't know what they are doing dude. You should not suggest they are killing for money then. QuoteIf they are killing people for money i don't care if there your freinds. There has to be something wrong with any one who can say " 5000K a month damn i'll shoot anybody". They are not killing for money. They do not go and hunt people down. They defend themselves and break contact, defensive tactics, not offensive. QuoteSorry my morals are not for sale for any price. Nor are theirs, doing a very dangerous job very different from the troop's mission. Do bad things happen? Yes. That is the nature of combat, always has been, always will be. We have made an effort and great strides in limiting death and destruction. They are human, doing the best they can, in VERY difficult circumstances. Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #92 July 25, 2005 Like I said dude read the whole thread. I didn’t say all mercenaries are killers. I made a statement that I will not change. If you kill people for money then you are scum and worthless in my eyes. Now Ron mentioned Clay. I don’t know Clay or know what he is doing there(Think he is a funny guy from his posts that is all I know about him). That’s why I keep on repeating the same thing. If you kill people for money then…………… you know the rest. Now if you have friend, family, or you your self have no problem killing someone for money you know how I feel about you. Honestly I don’t see what the confusion is about.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #93 July 25, 2005 QuoteSince you definitely show signs of ammnesia, let me help you a little bit with the reference to pedophilia, and your comment of him reaching heaven at 14? Clicky As far not being my words, since you like childish games of selective editing, it was NOT MY WORDS THAT A KID AT 14 IS IN HEAVEN, but all yours. And that you like to do forbidden things? Does this include pedophilia? Could you even focus your attention a little? Come on, you have posted a link! how are you going to stop people now from visiting the thread and put things into context. They are going to laugh at your posts!!! I remember when i was 14 that i had fantasies with a friend of my cousin, she was in her twenties and she was studying to be a nurse. Oh man, was she good looking. But then again, i have always had a healthy sexual life, had i remained virgin till my thirties i would probably see things diferently. Please, let´s stick to the subject. If you want to talk about paedophilia, i suggest you start your own thread. (after reading the rules, no one wants to see you banned) QuoteAgain, as your shooting comments goes, you have no idea of what the US armed forces is about, and how they train the soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen. You prefer to believe we have the same training regime of that of Al-Qaida, that actually targets innocents!. More power to you, am glad your world view is a cookie cutter I very much doubt that the U.S military is trained to shoot and drive by without even checking if they are dead or alive or even if they commited a mistake. You say you are training with the U.S marines, right? Regarding that thing of targetting innocents, that is what they did, didn´t they? They target them, kill them, and were innocents. Must be the language barrier. QuoteAs for the sentencing, you are just not happy that they got a fair trial, got a fair and law abiding sentence, for abusing prisoners, (not killed or maimed may I remind you) and got so far about 6 to 8 months each one, plus a bad conduct discharge (that is an actual life sentence, or one that will take over 20 years to circumvent). You added the killing, it was never proved that the ones indicted ever killed anyone. You are just not happy with any of the sentences given, regarldess of your lack of knowledge on this particular subject. Okay, so 6 to 8 months to each for torturing an innocent civilian. You are damn right, i am not happy with the sentence. How much would you get in the U.S for stealing a TV? Can you explain how the fuck a bad conduct discharge is a life sentence? Big deal, dude, do you think that they actually care after torturing a civilian. What other option is there, calling him a hero? And on top of that, are you going to deny that no one died at abu grahib do to abuses? For god´s shake, dude, be serious, if you don´t want to post any more, i will let you say the last word to make you happy, but don´t post that crap because it will ruin your credibility in DZ. QuoteWhere is your outrage at these animals decapitating innocents via Life TV? You seem to really admire these types... mercenaries mind you. And a mercenary outside his country is rarely innocent. QuoteYou never count the innocents the right way, first, you assume that all Iraqi deaths are innocents, then do nothing to give a number of that is attributed to US collateral damage....so far you are stuck on 10,000 (check your own posts) even when the TOTAL Iraqi deaths where tallied at that amount, you never made an effort to make a difference in the actual US collateral deaths.... So again, could you just for once give a number on such subject? And state your acknolwedgment that at least the US goes to investigate all these cases, where the targets where not innocents, which is hardly ever the same as with terrorist targeting innocents. Okay dude, you say the figure, and i take your word for it. How many innocent civilians have died in Irak because of U.S mistake? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #94 July 25, 2005 QuoteClay if you are willing to kill people for money I consider you scum. Wow. You don;t know him, but you think he is scum....I have to admit, I am shocked. So much for getting to know the person. QuoteLet me ask you Ron how do you feel about our troops shooting people and just driving off? Depends on the situation. If it is as the artical wrote...then its wrong. I don't blindly defend our troops. I DO give them the benefit of the doubt. It seems your default is to damn them. However, I was trained by the US Army as an Infantryman...So I know a little more than you about ROE...But that has never stopped you from claiming things you don't know. There are cases where you hit and run, or take fire, return fire and break contact as fast as possible. QuoteI don’t know I guess you think calling a mercenary a coward is more important then innocent Iraqis getting killed every day. No, but its important to know who you assume to be a coward, and who you assume to be scum. Funny thing is that you seem to defend the terrorists at every turn while you attack our troops at every chance....Good to know that about you."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #95 July 25, 2005 QuoteI didn’t say all mercenaries are killers. Never said you did. Do you think the contractors are killing for money? Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #96 July 25, 2005 QuoteClay if you are willing to kill people for money I consider you scum. Wow. You don;t know him, but you think he is scum....I have to admit, I am shocked. So much for getting to know the person. Quote Wow Ron you should get a job working for Fox news? Did you miss that whole IF you kill people for money part? You seem to miss a lot of facts and just see what you want. Thank god this is in writing you can look back and let me know if you missed the IF part.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites goose491 0 #97 July 25, 2005 Ron, Quick newsflash: This thread is relating to an article which tells the story of American troops shooting innocents and then driving away. First off, I cannot believe you find someone calling them cowards to be a bigger offense. (Even if he didn't have the guts to say it to their faces there cowboy.) Secondly, why get all hung up on this and distract from the actual topic of this thread? How little America values the life of non-Americans. Confused, they may be. But cowardice is the key factor here displayed when the men shot before knowing they were actually threatened (shooting out of fear) and when they drove off (fear of reprisal for their actions) I would make no reservations about telling either of them this. If it got me shot, I'd of done my part to show just how twisted this is; to give people license to treat life like garbage... There's dying for your statement for ya. There is an Iraqi police general in a hospital bed who confirms the troops had no idea who they were shooting at and clearly didn't care. This is cowardice. I now return you to your regularily sheduled banter about America and how great it is. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Alias 0 #98 July 25, 2005 QuoteHowever, I was trained by the US Army as an Infantryman...So I know a little more than you about ROE... Ron - do you know what the current ROE is in Iraq? Carpe Diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #99 July 25, 2005 I don’t make general statements about anyone. There is good and bad everywhere. We were talking about mercenaries not the people there who are helping to build Iraq, and even then I made a point to mention the ones who are willing to kill for money. Really is it that confusing?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #100 July 25, 2005 QuoteRon, Quick newsflash: This thread is relating to an article which tells the story of American troops shooting innocents and then driving away. First off, I cannot believe you find someone calling them cowards to be a bigger offense. (Even if he didn't have the guts to say it to their faces there cowboy.) Secondly, why get all hung up on this and distract from the actual topic of this thread? How little America values the life of non-Americans. Confused, they may be. But cowardice is the key factor here displayed when the men shot before knowing they were actually threatened (shooting out of fear) and when they drove off (fear of reprisal for their actions) I would make no reservations about telling either of them this. If it got me shot, I'd of done my part to show just how twisted this is; to give people license to treat life like garbage... There's dying for your statement for ya. There is an Iraqi police general in a hospital bed who confirms the troops had no idea who they were shooting at and clearly didn't care. This is cowardice. I now return you to your regularily sheduled banter about America and how great it is. I had mentioned the same thing, But you put it much better then i did. I want to see if it will get ignored again? even if i quote the whole thing.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 4 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
goose491 0 #97 July 25, 2005 Ron, Quick newsflash: This thread is relating to an article which tells the story of American troops shooting innocents and then driving away. First off, I cannot believe you find someone calling them cowards to be a bigger offense. (Even if he didn't have the guts to say it to their faces there cowboy.) Secondly, why get all hung up on this and distract from the actual topic of this thread? How little America values the life of non-Americans. Confused, they may be. But cowardice is the key factor here displayed when the men shot before knowing they were actually threatened (shooting out of fear) and when they drove off (fear of reprisal for their actions) I would make no reservations about telling either of them this. If it got me shot, I'd of done my part to show just how twisted this is; to give people license to treat life like garbage... There's dying for your statement for ya. There is an Iraqi police general in a hospital bed who confirms the troops had no idea who they were shooting at and clearly didn't care. This is cowardice. I now return you to your regularily sheduled banter about America and how great it is. My Karma ran over my Dogma!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias 0 #98 July 25, 2005 QuoteHowever, I was trained by the US Army as an Infantryman...So I know a little more than you about ROE... Ron - do you know what the current ROE is in Iraq? Carpe Diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #99 July 25, 2005 I don’t make general statements about anyone. There is good and bad everywhere. We were talking about mercenaries not the people there who are helping to build Iraq, and even then I made a point to mention the ones who are willing to kill for money. Really is it that confusing?I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #100 July 25, 2005 QuoteRon, Quick newsflash: This thread is relating to an article which tells the story of American troops shooting innocents and then driving away. First off, I cannot believe you find someone calling them cowards to be a bigger offense. (Even if he didn't have the guts to say it to their faces there cowboy.) Secondly, why get all hung up on this and distract from the actual topic of this thread? How little America values the life of non-Americans. Confused, they may be. But cowardice is the key factor here displayed when the men shot before knowing they were actually threatened (shooting out of fear) and when they drove off (fear of reprisal for their actions) I would make no reservations about telling either of them this. If it got me shot, I'd of done my part to show just how twisted this is; to give people license to treat life like garbage... There's dying for your statement for ya. There is an Iraqi police general in a hospital bed who confirms the troops had no idea who they were shooting at and clearly didn't care. This is cowardice. I now return you to your regularily sheduled banter about America and how great it is. I had mentioned the same thing, But you put it much better then i did. I want to see if it will get ignored again? even if i quote the whole thing.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
