July, 19, 1969

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Forgot to commemerate this sad day in history yesterday.

http://www.ytedk.com/intro.htm

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Just makes me even more convinced that Curtis LeMay was behind JFK's death.

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[kallend 2,148]

Try today's date instead of being so grouchy:

July 20, 1969 1st men on Moon, Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin, Apollo 11

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Were I in GWB's shoes, I would have gone to the infamous bridge, invited TV crews, and declared it national DUI awareness day, then ended my speech with 'Rest in Peace, Ms. Kopechne'

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

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Try today's date instead of being so grouchy:

July 20, 1969 1st men on Moon, Neil Armstrong and Edwin Aldrin, Apollo 11

Already 3 threads going in Bonfire. If I'd started a new one, you'd have bitched about me doing that.

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Were I in GWB's shoes, I would have gone to the infamous bridge, invited TV crews, and declared it national DUI awareness day, then ended my speech with 'Rest in Peace, Ms. Kopechne'

Yeah, yeah and then he could've talked about his own DUI tickets. The point being that drunken driving crosses party lines and that both of those sob's are spoiled rich boys who can and sometimes do get away with killing people. Look how long it took to put that Skakel asshole away for beating young Martha Moxley to death with a fucking golf club.

I'm sure Bush has killed somebody, we just haven't heard about it...

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

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Apparently, one of Lyndon Johnson's early opponents in Texas was found dead, in a farm field, of multiple gunshots to the head, with a 22 caliber _rifle_ lying next to him. The local judge declared it a suicide.

We are all engines of karma

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I hate politics. I cannot believe I majored in it in Undergrad...

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I'm sure Bush has killed somebody, we just haven't heard about it...

And I'm sure John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durbin and most of the Dems have had sex parties with sheep. We just haven't heard about it yet.

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I'm sure Bush has killed somebody, we just haven't heard about it...

Laura Bush has.

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I'm sure Bush has killed somebody, we just haven't heard about it...

Laura Bush has.

Yes, but we have heard about it.

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>Were I in GWB's shoes, I would have gone to the infamous bridge,
> invited TV crews, and declared it national DUI awareness day, then
> ended my speech with 'Rest in Peace, Ms. Kopechne'

And what would you have said had Hilary Clinton gone to the house of a dead US marine, invited the press, called it "Quagmire Awareness Day" and ended her speech with "Rest in peace, brave soldier?" You'd be pretty upset. The terms "using dead soldiers", "pathetic really" and "unbelievable" would appear in your post about it.

Despite GWB's penchant for making really bad decisions, I think he has more class than to do what you describe above.

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Are you accusing me of being low class?

Tsk tsk tsk. Oh well. I am low - to the ground at any rate. Five foot two and a half - don't forget the half either. It's important to we vertical challenged people.

The differences between 'Quagmire Day' as you've described and DUI Awareness Day as I've described are quite plentiful. A few that pop immediately into the 'noggin between my long and sexy JACKASS ears are:

- GWB would feel something for the person he wishes to RIP. Madame Clintonista - doubt it.
- National DUI Awareness Day would have some use for the nation, focusing on a horrible crime committed by many individuals from all walks of life. Quagmire day...I think not.
- 'tis arguable that we're in a quagmire. That TeddyK is a slimebag murdering piece of...ahhhh I think we needn't descend there... I consider it res ipsa loquitor
- DUI Awareness Day would mean a lot to some people, especially those of us who have lost someone close to a drunken driver. Only the day of announcement as I've described would anger some people. Quagmire day would make a lot of Democrats feel good and some families of slain soldiers too. It would also tick off a lot of Republicans and some families of slain soldiers too. Haven't the families of the slain been hurt enough? (yes, I know my DUI Awareness Day announcement timing/location would really tick off TeddyK, but he deserves it).

There are more I can think of, but right now the JACKASS is hungry and wants some chicken wings and a beer from Bukkets at the Beach and I need to get my low-to-the-ground self walking.

Beers to all,

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

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>Are you accusing me of being low class?

Hey, here I am saying GWB is _not_ low class and I get grief! I can't win . . .

>- National DUI Awareness Day would have some use for the nation,
> focusing on a horrible crime committed by many individuals from all
> walks of life. Quagmire day...I think not.

You don't think ending a war would have some 'use' for a nation? I know a lot of military families who would disagree with you.

>- DUI Awareness Day would mean a lot to some people, especially
> those of us who have lost someone close to a drunken driver.

Again, don't you think that people who have lost their children in the Iraq war might feel the same way?

>Quagmire day would make a lot of Democrats feel good and some
> families of slain soldiers too. It would also tick off a lot of
>Republicans and some families of slain soldiers too.

DUI day would have made a lot of Republicans feel good, and would tick off a lot of democrats and some families of DUI victims, who might feel their loss was being used as a way to garner votes for the GOP. Both are bad ideas.

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You mean something like this?

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Soldier's funeral was not a 'function'

By Eric Heyl
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, July 24, 2005


Grief doesn't diminish their anger.
Relatives of the late Marine Staff Sgt. Joseph Goodrich are upset over what they consider to be Pennsylvania Lt. Gov. Catherine Baker Knoll's cynical intrusion on their mourning.

Goodrich, 32, of Westwood, had many roles in life: husband, son, police officer, handyman, landscaper, Central Catholic High School wrestler, altar boy.

He died July 10 in a mortar attack in Hit, Iraq. Friends and relatives packed St. John Evangelical Lutheran Church in Carnegie on Tuesday for the infantry unit leader's funeral.





Knoll was among those in attendance.

Rhonda Goodrich, 38, of Indiana County, the fallen soldier's sister-in-law, said Knoll slipped into a pew next to his aunt, Linda Kubiak of Bethel Park. Through Goodrich, Kubiak declined to comment.

Rhonda Goodrich said Knoll, 74, of McKees Rocks, began chatting with Kubiak during the communion service.

"When (Knoll) found out (Kubiak) was Joe's aunt, she handed her a business card and told her she attends 90 percent of these 'functions' across the state," Rhonda Goodrich said.

"This was not a 'function,' " she continued, fairly spitting out the words. "A function is a dinner or an awards ceremony. This was my brother-in-law's funeral."

According to Rhonda Goodrich, Knoll then said what continues to leave Joe Goodrich's survivors shaking their heads: "She told Joe's aunt that the (state) government was against the war."

An odd thing to say, because the state never has taken a position on the Iraq conflict. An offensive thing to say to those who knew Joseph Goodrich loved being a Marine and fighting for his country.

"Whether you're for the war or against the war, to say something like that to a relative of someone who just died in combat was just repulsive," Rhonda Goodrich said.

Added Patricia Goodrich of the South Side, the slain soldier's mother: "When my sister-in-law related that to us (after the service), everyone just gasped. We didn't feel it was appropriate at all."

Knoll spokesman Sean Pendrak would not comment specifically on the Goodrich family's allegations.

"Obviously, the lieutenant governor extends her most sincere condolences to all families who have lost loved ones in the fighting," Pendrak said. "She also wants to convey her support of all of our fine young men and women in uniform."

That support means little to Rhonda Goodrich, who believes Knoll was more interested in jump-starting next year's re-election bid than offering genuine sympathy to mourners.

"She never said to anyone, 'If there's anything I can do to help, just call my office,' " Goodrich said. "It seems like she's going to funerals and using business cards as campaign fliers."

Rhonda Goodrich remains angry, but she is grateful for one thing.

"I'm glad she didn't sit down next to me and say those things," Goodrich said. "I would have smacked her on the spot."

[billvon 3,118]

>You mean something like this?

Yep, or lying about Pat Tillman's death to put a better spin on the war. It is disgusting to use any death to make your political points, no matter what side of the aisle you are on.

[Ron 10]

OK who did Laura Bush kill?

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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OK who did Laura Bush kill?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/laura.asp

http://www.bartcop.com/pickles.htm

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3910b26e685a.htm

Walt

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When Ted claimed he was "in need of medical attention", he went to his attorney, not his family doctor. I don't think that there can be any doubt of his guilt. Guilty, unrepentant, and will never stand trial.

His political aspirations have been dead for years (beyond what his family can purchase in Mass). As much as he tries, he hasn't done the damage to the country that his brother did. JFK was probably the stupidest person to ever get elected.

As much as I dislike Ted, this is old news of the oldest variety.

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>You mean something like this?

Yep, or lying about Pat Tillman's death to put a better spin on the war. It is disgusting to use any death to make your political points, no matter what side of the aisle you are on.

Naw, what Knoll did was just downright tacky. It has been likened to a car salesman attending a funeral and trying to sell the widow a car. Ever see the movie Cadillac Man?

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Nice article.

Clicky

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
JACKASS POWER!!!!!!

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Just makes me even more convinced that Curtis LeMay was behind JFK's death.

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Ever consider LBJ?


Chuck

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Ever consider LBJ?

Yes, at one point. But, after reading Rhode's books' about nuclear weapons, and how much power Curtis LeMay had, several things started adding up in my head.

Curtis LeMay was vehemently anti-Communist. He was very angry at JFK for not supporting the Cuban invasion. He chewed JFK out in front of "everyone" at the White House. The Russians had previously ignited the largest thermonucear weapon the world has ever seen (50 megatons), and he was convinced we were going to war with them sooner rather than later. So, he wanted to be proactive, before they could start delivering their weapons to American soil.

Curtis LeMay and our senior military commanders from WWII watched what the Russians could do when they took Berlin. The Russians lost over 5,000 men a _day_ for over a _month_ just taking Berlin. That made a distinct impression on everyone.

Then, JFK was going to withdraw from Vietnam, which IMO, was where we tried to show the Russians they weren't going to push America around. Curtis LeMay and those around him were extreme warriors, and couldn't allow that to happen. After JFK's death, we flew thousands of solo bomber flights over Russia. They had no defense, and didn't know if the bomber's were loaded. That was Curtis LeMay's doing, and it took almost 50 years before that was acknowledged even remotely in public.

While there are no smoking guns, I personally find it unbelievable that Lee Harvey Oswald was personally responsible (if at all) for JFKs death.

JFK, etc., were all very powerful men, and Curtis LeMay, being SAC commander, was the alpha male among them. All signs point to him, IMO.

We are all engines of karma

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You know, I'll bet, we never learn all the facts about JFK's asassination. It just seems funny to me that, after LBJ's death, a letter from him was discovered and (in so many words) stated that we were not going to pull-out of Viet Nam but that there would be an escalation in our efforts there. It was signed "Lyndon Baines Johnson President of The United States" and dated the day before Kennedy's asassination! ????????????????


Chuck