London Transport terrorism?

[Tonto 1]

My goodness.

Did I hit a nerve?



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It's the year of the Pig.

[markd_nscr986 0]

He just doesnt know and appreciate you like the rest of us

Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004

[Tonto 1]

I suspect you're correct.

Even my closest friends have admitted to me that I'm best described as "An acquired taste."

My intention was not to deliberatly offend. Life, politics, sex etc are very Ying and Yan. Without the one side the other cannot exist. This is most unfortunate for all those caught in the perpetual conflict.

t

It's the year of the Pig.

[billvon 3,116]

>yet people still find time, and feel it's relevant, to complain about a couple administrations.

And someone else is going on about how it's OK to torture people. Everyone wants to put their own spin on this.

I am curious if the far right will change their opinion about how the war in Iraq is "sucking away" terrorists from other targets after this horrible attack.

[EricTheRed 0]

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...the asshole murderers who's sole goal is to kill as many innocent people as possible...

A semantic point.

The murders goal is to spread their particular version of Islam throughout the world. Killing innocent people is just their means to an end.

illegible usually

[ViperPilot 0]

I'll take that. I guess that statement had too much rage in it at the time to make that point. But yes, I do think that's the real goal. I guess you could consider their means as just smaller goals on the road to the big goal...spreading Islam.

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Bill, absolutely no one said anything about torture being ok. mr2mk1g just assumed that's what he meant by "what would you do..." So no, NO ONE is "going on about how it's ok to torture people". You're right, everyone wants to put their own spin on this, just make sure you're looking inward as well as outward. I try to keep myself in check too, everyone should.

[ViperPilot 0]

It's just offensive when you lightheartedly say that a government's policies are worse than a terrorist's bomb. Nothing is worse than the planned killing of innocent people. Nothing. Something is just wrong if you have more of a problem with Bush's or Blair's ideas than you do with Al Qaeda's actions/goals.

[kallend 2,148]

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It's just offensive when you lightheartedly say that a government's policies are worse than a terrorist's bomb. Nothing is worse than the planned killing of innocent people. Nothing. Something is just wrong if you have more of a problem with Bush's or Blair's ideas than you do with Al Qaeda's actions/goals.

True. How many innocent people have been killed by deliberate US and UK actions in Iraq?

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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How many innocent people have been killed by deliberate US and UK actions in Iraq?
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The better question is HOW MANY INNOCENTS HAVE NOT BEEN KILLED BY SH IN IRAQ SINCE HIS REMOVAL FROM POWER?

People like you, Kallend and you, Bill make me sick. I really don't how either of you sleep at night.

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Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

[SkydivingNurse 0]

Oh but wait, this is nothing compared to putting panties on someone's head or turning up the air conditioning.
England lived through Hitler.
England will live through the new evil.
Stand tall, England, and remember that you are a nation that gave the world Winston Churchill.
Prayers for the families.

[billvon 3,116]

>The better question is HOW MANY INNOCENTS HAVE NOT BEEN
>KILLED BY SH IN IRAQ SINCE HIS REMOVAL FROM POWER?

Impossible to say. We do know that many thousands have been killed by the US.

>People like you, Kallend and you, Bill make me sick. I really
>don't how either of you sleep at night.

I have no problem. But some of the members of the 101st Fighting Keyboarders here sure seem to get themselves all worked up over a war they're not fighting.

[kallend 2,148]

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How many innocent people have been killed by deliberate US and UK actions in Iraq?
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The better question is HOW MANY INNOCENTS HAVE NOT BEEN KILLED BY SH IN IRAQ SINCE HIS REMOVAL FROM POWER?

People like you, Kallend and you, Bill make me sick. I really don't how either of you sleep at night.

Don't like having the hypocrisy of the right exposed?

Killing innocents is WRONG, for the terrorists AND FOR US.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Killing innocents is WRONG, for the terrorists AND FOR US.

I'll agree with that. HOWEVER as has been said before, there is a difference. We (The US) do really TRY to not kill the people we aren't aiming at. There are bad people everywhere, even in our armed forces, but I'll stick with our current govm't above the one that OBL would prefer.

Iraq was the wrong war, we should have finished with Afganistan first, but Iraq is not the cause of this.

Only the removal of religious fanatics from the educational system will reduce the numbers of recruits for the terrorists. How to do that is another question.

illegible usually

[eaglenrider 0]

[ I guess you could consider their means as just smaller goals on the road to the big goal...spreading Islam.

[storm1977 0]

Thankfully you aren't in politics.

I can see you you now cowering under you bed sheets when the US is attacked. Then sheepishly telling the public that we will do nothing to retaliate.

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Thankfully you aren't in politics.

I can see you you now cowering under you bed sheets when the US is attacked. Then sheepishly telling the public that we will do nothing to retaliate
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I think Professor for President has a nice ring to it!
I'm certain that he could do at least as good a job as GW or Clinton.
I don't believe he was "cowering under you bed sheets" on 9-11.

But I have a question for you Storm; do you believe that todays bombings were the work of Islamics? Why do you believe that?

Blues,
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[eaglenrider 0]

but I'll stick with our current govm't above the one that OBL would prefer.
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News Flash - "OBL" was DOA on 12-2-01. He no longer has a preference.


Blues,
Cliff

[markd_nscr986 0]

***Don't like having the hypocrisy of the right left exposed?
Killing innocents is WRONG, for the terrorists AND FOR US.

Might want to mention something to Janet Reno and the other Clintonistas about this........I mean in view of what transpired in Waco and all...oh but wait......that would shatter your prejudiced view of the "evil" right wouldn't it

Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004

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How many innocent people have been killed by deliberate US and UK actions in Iraq?

Not a single one. We have never DELIBERATELY killed an INNOCENT civilian. That's not what we do.

[eaglenrider 0]

Not a single one. We have never DELIBERATELY killed an INNOCENT civilian. That's not what we do.

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Do you have any evidence that todays bombings were the acts of Islamics?

Well, the attacks have all the signs of Al Qaeda's involvement, and a cell with membership ties to Al Qaeda has claimed responsibility. I suppose it's not 100% proven yet, but there's about a 1:100000000000000 chance that it'll turn out to be an angry group of christian Britons. Do you have any evidence that it was not? While you are entitled to ask us what makes us think islamic fundamentalists were behind this, we can ask, what makes you think it wasn't? What evidence throughout recent history, besides McVeigh and the Japan thing, have led you to believe that it's NOT predominantly Islamic fundamentalist who commit mass killings of innocent people with no requirements except that they're residents of a democracy.

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can you provide me proof that an American service member beat to death an innocent civilian for the reason of extracting WMD info? And by my above statement, I was refering to the type of innocent civilian such as those killed in the attacks today. Show me proof that American service members have DELIBERATELY killed people like those who died in the attacks today. Show it to us all.

[billvon 3,116]

>We have never DELIBERATELY killed an INNOCENT civilian. That's not what we do.

We've tortured a lot of people to death who did nothing wrong that we knew of. Sure, we're a lot better than Saddam, but we should measure up to OUR standards, not Saddam's.

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How many innocent people have been killed by deliberate US and UK actions in Iraq?

Not a single one. We have never DELIBERATELY killed an INNOCENT civilian. That's not what we do.

That's the most well-founded statement I ever read.
Man, how I'm convinced.

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