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I see that some astrologer has filed suit against NASA for disturbing the orbit of the comet and thereby invalidating horoscopes.

However I am a Libra, and we Libras don't believe in Astrology.



I nominate this for best post of all time.

Subtle, but still very funny....The scary thing is I bet someone will sue.
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Why? Let's go blow up a comet. It will give us some interesting data (think of the opportunities for spectrographic analysis alone!) and it will get rid of a nuclear weapon that otherwise might be used here.

Heck, we could try to nudge it into a collision with Mars. With what we know about Mars so far, we might just get enough CO2 and water vapor in the atmosphere after the collision to reach that magic number of 1PSI atmospheric pressure, which is a very cool number indeed.

And if we miss, so what? We know what to fix next time.

>Are comets hard like an ice cube, somewhat looser held together
>like a snowcone or really loosely held together like a Slurpee?

Only one way to find out!



Go Bill...Lets nuke a comet!
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I see that some astrologer has filed suit against NASA for disturbing the orbit of the comet and thereby invalidating horoscopes.

However I am a Libra, and we Libras don't believe in Astrology.



I nominate this for best post of all time.

Subtle, but still very funny....The scary thing is I bet someone will sue.



Too late! Somebody already has!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200505/s1362134.htm

Please note date of article.
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>The so what would involve destroying the earth in an attempt to
>practice saving it.

?? Nothing about earth there. Hence using mars for practice.



and when we fail to convert an English unit properly to SI, that comet will instead end up hitting us some day.

Things are fine now in the solar system, but our species has the hubris to screw it up.

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>and when we fail to convert an English unit properly to SI, that '
>comet will instead end up hitting us some day.

There are millions of those things, and the earth is incredibly small compared to the oort cloud. Accidentally hitting the earth with one is like dropping a BB out of a plane on jump run and accidentally killing one specific ant in the next state.

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Things are fine now in the solar system, but our species has the hubris to screw it up.



Really? Things are "fine"?

With the incredibly long periods of some comets and asteroids, it's impossible to know if things are "fine" or we're days away from a total planet killing catastrophe.

Seriously.

We think we know some things but take a look at the first story on this page;
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/

5.7 earth diameters away huh . . . um, that's pretty freekin' close. That's almost exactly the distance communication satellites are stationed at.
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There are millions of those things, and the earth is incredibly small compared to the oort cloud. Accidentally hitting the earth with one is like dropping a BB out of a plane on jump run and accidentally killing one specific ant in the next state.



So your saying there is a chance!

OK, what movie did I badly quote from?
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Maybe, but Tempel 1 is thought to be around 6km across with a mass of around a Billion tonnes. Break it into a thousand pieces and thats still a million tonnes each.
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It's still a step forward. Letting the atmosphere work on 1000 spheroids instead of one big one significantly decreasing the kinetic energy that impacts. Less mass at a lower velocity.

And who says we only get to fire one shot?

Yeah, c'mon you guys. Haven't you ever played Asteroids?
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You know, Paul, even though I know the risks of this are even smaller, what would happen on earth if, for example, this comet hit the moon?

It seems like there would be a bunch of problems:

1) Ejecta impacting the earth creating a freaking amazing light show and probable damage to a number of places;
2) Global cooling (I wonder if the ejecta cloud will block some of the sun's rays in space, and not just in th atmosphere;
3) Change in tides - wouldn't the tides be changed due to a difference in mass? Isn't there a chance that the moon's orbit would be skewed somewhat?


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5.7 earth diameters away huh . . . um, that's pretty freekin' close. That's almost exactly the distance communication satellites are stationed at



Not quite... geosync satellites are at 22k miles... 6 diameters would be about 45k miles...but still too damned close of a call!!

Ah, ok...I checked the page... 6 radii would be right there, alright! Yowch!!
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You are correct, I meant to say radius, but mistakenly said diameter.

The asteroid -will- get INSIDE of geosynchonous communications satellites which at are about 22,300 miles.
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You know, Paul, even though I know the risks of this are even smaller, what would happen on earth if, for example, this comet hit the moon?



I always wanted to live on a ringed planet. ;^)

If I could, I'd move to the crater on Mimas. Can you possibly imagine the views? A four mile tall peak in the middle of a huge crater with Saturn taking up over 1/4 of the sky and its rings stretching from horizon to horizon.

Anyway, I digress.

Hard to really know what would happen if it hit our Moon. Could be insignificant, could be rather significant for some of the reasons you've mentioned and maybe more.
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1) yeah, we'd have at least a great looking moon for weeks, with the weak gravity it's possible some bits would make it to our side, could make some holes on the ground.

2) I don't think it would last very long, and odds are against impact happening close to a new moon (earth in the way). With the rotation, worst case could be a few hours solar eclipse every 29 days. It would have to considerably increase the effective surface area from our POV to do this.

3) Moon is 2160 miles in diameter. Comets are typically smaller than 6 miles. Hale-Bopp was 24 miles. Tempel 1 is only 4.2 miles if it were a round sphere. That's like a bug hitting the windshield - it's not going to change the moon much. Tides vary more from the variance in the orbit - apogee is 11% further than perigee.

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3) Moon is 2160 miles in diameter. Comets are typically smaller than 6 miles. Hale-Bopp was 24 miles. Tempel 1 is only 4.2 miles if it were a round sphere. That's like a bug hitting the windshield - it's not going to change the moon much. Tides vary more from the variance in the orbit - apogee is 11% further than perigee.



Again, I gotta go back to Mimas.

Can you imagine the size of the object that hit it and what that must have looked like?

Can you imagine what the creation of the crater Tycho on our Moon must have looked like?
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