Ron 10 #1 June 27, 2005 How can "jenfly00" make a clear attack on other posters and not get the thread locked or get banned? Yet when other do the same (Yes, stupid, and immature) bull shit they get locked? Its quite clear that "Jenfly00" has a hard on for Rhino....Rhino, did you fuck her at a boogie and not call back?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #2 June 27, 2005 I think this thread and hers are pretty much one and the same. They both ALLUDE to personal attacks, yet nowhere does either of you say, "Rhino/Jen is an asshole", or "Rhino/Jen is an ignorant pain in the ass." She's just playing by the rules, same as you and Rhino. Apparently the rule is you can be as much of an asshole as you want, long as you don't directly name call. And you can threaten people in the general sense ("If SOMEONE burns my flag, I'll kick THEIR ass"; knowing full well it means "If YOU burn my flag, I'll kick YOUR ass".) Pot! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #3 June 27, 2005 He ... he ... he ... And Kelel01 can be seen celebrating in the corner after taking round one of this heavy weight battle of the "Speakers Corner Posts". Well said. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #4 June 27, 2005 QuoteI think this thread and hers are pretty much one and the same. They both ALLUDE to personal attacks, yet nowhere does either of you say, "Rhino/Jen is an asshole", or "Rhino/Jen is an ignorant pain in the ass." No, my question was "How can one person do something, but when others do it they get into trouble". Not an attack on Lisa, Rhino, OR Jen....It just happens that Jen seems to be getting away with what Lisa and Rhino can't. I wondered why? and asked as much. QuoteShe's just playing by the rules, same as you and Rhino Nope again, MAYBE Rhino and Lisa did, but mine was a question about how some things for some people are allowed and from others they are not. QuoteShe's just playing by the rules, She said she was going to write Lisa's name on a flag and burn it...That is an attack. Its like burning an effigy...But nothing happened to her for that attack....Why? Nice try though. My "did you sleep with her" comment was a question to see WHY she has an issue with Rhino. I wonder WHY she feels the need to bait and attack him. As you can see I have not taken a side...In fact I jumped on Rhino several times about some of his statments.... Im just wondering how some can say things that gets others warned and not get in trouble? Or how some can clear harass someone and not get in trouble? Or how some can make threats against someone and not get in trouble?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #5 June 27, 2005 QuoteAnd Kelel01 can be seen celebrating in the corner After making a personal attack of her own while trying to call people names for doing it. Case in point "She's just playing by the rules, same as you and Rhino. Apparently the rule is you can be as much of an asshole as you want, long as you don't directly name call.""No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #6 June 27, 2005 QuoteYet when other do the same (Yes, stupid, and immature) bull shit they get locked? Its quite clear that "Jenfly00" has a hard on for Rhino Both of these sound "attack-ish" to me. The rest of it was fine, I suppose. But how many times are you (and Dave, now) going to tell her how to cite her quote? Jeez. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #7 June 27, 2005 I don't mind being the pot. And I think mirroring someone's behavior can make a statement. It wasn't entirely unintentional. QuoteAfter making a personal attack of her own while trying to call people name for doing it herself. And that didn't even make sense, now that I read it again. But I know what you were trying to say. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #8 June 27, 2005 QuoteBoth of these sound "attack-ish" to me. Talking about an action, not a person. The second, hell its quite clear that she has a problem with him. Just like how you have a problem with me. QuoteBut how many times are you (and Dave, now) going to tell her how to cite her quote? Jeez Till she gets it right?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #9 June 27, 2005 QuoteHow can "jenfly00" make a clear attack on other posters and not get the thread locked or get banned? While I don't agree with her method, her poll at least had some sort of a point (Rhino's conflicting values or beliefs), where as the others were just open requests for personal attacks and insults. Quote Yet when other do the same (Yes, stupid, and immature) bull shit they get locked? I would agree that it is stupid and immature, but it's not against the rules. Quote Its quite clear that "Jenfly00" has a hard on for Rhino....Rhino, did you fuck her at a boogie and not call back? You're complaining about the immaturity of her Poll by writing that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 June 27, 2005 QuoteBut how many times are you (and Dave, now) going to tell her how to cite her quote? I didn't realize that Ron got onto her for that. Huh, it just annoyed me. Anymore I just pop in and out of SC tossing little bits here and there. This one annoys not only due to improper citing (actors are not presidents, even if they play one on TV...except for old Ronny of course). Hell, that's like citing something from ER as a medical fact. However, the worst part is the length of the damned thing and using it like a sigline. I'm very very happy (as are many others that I know of) to see the character limits on the sig lines. It helps keep things nice and clean.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #11 June 27, 2005 QuoteTill she gets it right? So point it out every 5 seconds until she reads one of the posts and corrects it? K. Saying that someone did something "stupid and immature" is NOT an attack . . . it's attack-ISH. Which was the ENTIRE point of my first post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #12 June 27, 2005 QuoteWhile I don't agree with her method, her poll at least had some sort of a point (Rhino's conflicting values or beliefs), where as the others were just open requests for personal attacks and insults. You don't see how that Poll was an attack on his chracter? What other reason whould you start such a poll? A Poll to point out a persons "Conflicting Values" IS an attack. QuoteI would agree that it is stupid and immature, but it's not against the rules. So why do others get locked for the SAME thing, but she does not? QuoteIn Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Its quite clear that "Jenfly00" has a hard on for Rhino....Rhino, did you fuck her at a boogie and not call back? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You're complaining about the immaturity of her Poll by writing that? Its actually a valid quetion. It has happened several times on here where a relationship heads south and one starts attacking the other person on here."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #13 June 27, 2005 The other thread is chickenshit and childish in its inception. No doubt. One thing to consider is that it really isn't a personal attack according to dz.com rules -- maybe it's an illustration of the principle that an attack is sometimes what's seen by the attackee. Someone attacking my taste in (whatever) is not attacking me. Someone attacking something I hold dear is not attacking me. They may be attacking something I think is worth defending, but it's not the same thing. To me. YMMV. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #14 June 27, 2005 QuoteA Poll to point out a persons "Conflicting Values" IS an attack. She's within the letter of the law. She's not directly attacking Rhino. There are a lot of people who feel that something within the letter of the law is OK (as long as they agree with it). I could attack 4-way, but it wouldn't be an attack on either you or rehmwa . Unless, of course, you chose to take it as such. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #15 June 27, 2005 QuoteI could attack 4-way, but it wouldn't be an attack on either you or rehmwa . If our score from our last meet is any indication, I think I insulted the sport enough on my own, thank you. gnight ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #16 June 27, 2005 QuoteThe other thread is chickenshit and childish in its inception. No doubt. ALL of them are. The What will Rhino Do, and the ones by Rhino and Lisa ALL are pretty stupid. My question is WHY are only Rhino and Lisa's getting locked when its quite clear that Jen's are of the same ilk. QuoteSomeone attacking my taste in (whatever) is not attacking me. Someone attacking something I hold dear is not attacking me. They may be attacking something I think is worth defending, but it's not the same thing. True but posting ABOUT a person is don't ya think? And this was not a post, but TWO new threads this person started. Here is one: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1674879#1674879 Here is another: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1706056#1706056 TWO polls both from the SAME person, both about the SAME person and both are attacking his character."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #17 June 27, 2005 QuoteTo me. YMMV. Right now I'm only getting about 4mpg out of SC, do you think if I changed my intake with a K&N filter, rejetted the carb and put on aftermarket pipes I'd get better milage? I was really hoping to get atleast 15mpg, but recently it doesn't seem to be happening. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #18 June 27, 2005 Quote You don't see how that Poll was an attack on his chracter? What other reason whould you start such a poll? It wasn't a direct attack on his character. She wasn't lying or anything, the actions HE said he would take were conflicting, she simply pointed it out. While I don't agree with her method of making it a poll, it wasn't an attack. Besides, it's up to the mods to decide that, not you or I, so why worry about it? Quote A Poll to point out a persons "Conflicting Values" IS an attack. It hasn't been locked yet, so I guess it isn't. Quote So why do others get locked for the SAME thing, but she does not? It wasn't the same thing. QuoteIts actually a valid quetion. It has happened several times on here where a relationship heads south and one starts attacking the other person on here. That's pretty far-fetched. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #19 June 27, 2005 From the "read this first" post at the top of the page: ----------------------------- The moderators make an effort to keep track of the threads in the various forums. But with over 2000 posts a day on Dropzone.com, it's just not possible to read every post. If someone posts a personal attack and it is not deleted, there are two possibilities: 1. It wasn't really a personal attack in the view of the moderators 2. A moderator hasn't seen it yet In such cases an email/PM to the moderators of that section can help us keep tabs on the threads that are getting rambunctious. ----------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #20 June 27, 2005 Ahh. The voice of reason. So rare in SC. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,597 #21 June 27, 2005 QuoteShe said she was going to write Lisa's name on a flag and burn it...That is an attack. Its like burning an effigy...But nothing happened to her for that attack....Why? And Lisa replied with 'stupid Nazi Bitch' and nothing happened to her either. To be perfectly honest I think all three are lucky not to be banned for a few weeks, the feuding is getting really monotonous.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #22 June 27, 2005 QuoteShe's within the letter of the law. She's not directly attacking Rhino She has started TWO threads where she had a Poll about Rhino. Both were negative. Also she said she was going to write Lisa's name on a flag and burn it...Why? Cause Lisa told her burning a flag is wrong...How is that not both an attack (buring an effigy of someone) and a statement that was only to incite anger? QuoteIt is important to realize that a personal attack is any attack (slurs, insults, denigrations, implications about their mothers, etc) or threat against another poster.... QuoteI could attack 4-way, but it wouldn't be an attack on either you or rehmwa . Unless, of course, you chose to take it as such. If you started a thread: "Who thinks Ron is stupid about 4way?"....It would be an attack. QuoteClever insults that attempt to get around the above (i.e. "I like rabbits" "anyone who likes rabbits and posts here is an idiot") will result in the same sort of bans/locks/thread deletions that a personal attack will. But it has not happend in this case...She has been able to threaten others and attack them and when others do the same, those threads got locked, but hers did not?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #23 June 27, 2005 i didnt call her that, I had when I posted that not known who was doing the flag burning and was asking if the person doing it was doing it because they are that. NEVER have I referred to her as a bitch except in a pm in retaliation. Yes we were all lucky to not get banned for a few weeks however, if one thread was locked they both should have been , we all did wrong yet only two were "punished" thats what didnt make senseSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #24 June 27, 2005 Quote It wasn't a direct attack on his character. She wasn't lying or anything, the actions HE said he would take were conflicting, she simply pointed it out. And you don't see how one person, starting TWO polls about a single person BOTH with negative spins are attacks? Quote"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Steel 0 #25 June 27, 2005 QuoteQuoteA Poll to point out a persons "Conflicting Values" IS an attack. She's within the letter of the law. She's not directly attacking Rhino. There are a lot of people who feel that something within the letter of the law is OK (as long as they agree with it). I could attack 4-way, but it wouldn't be an attack on either you or rehmwa . Unless, of course, you chose to take it as such. Wendy W. I'll tell you what an attack is. That character {for which I can not use a proper adjective according to forum rules}, who said something to the effect of a big truck making up for small winkie, like we are all wondering who he was talking about. But instead of getting upset I can just laugh it off because no matter how many different variations of the same joke get told, {small canopy, big muscles, whatever makes others jealous of me}, I can just look at my girlfreind and have a good laugh because she know otherwise.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Steel 0 #25 June 27, 2005 QuoteQuoteA Poll to point out a persons "Conflicting Values" IS an attack. She's within the letter of the law. She's not directly attacking Rhino. There are a lot of people who feel that something within the letter of the law is OK (as long as they agree with it). I could attack 4-way, but it wouldn't be an attack on either you or rehmwa . Unless, of course, you chose to take it as such. Wendy W. I'll tell you what an attack is. That character {for which I can not use a proper adjective according to forum rules}, who said something to the effect of a big truck making up for small winkie, like we are all wondering who he was talking about. But instead of getting upset I can just laugh it off because no matter how many different variations of the same joke get told, {small canopy, big muscles, whatever makes others jealous of me}, I can just look at my girlfreind and have a good laugh because she know otherwise.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
