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Darius11

A sad day for Iran

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I have no idea why I am posting this. As I have no information to share other then my grief and sadness for Iran.
I wonder if Iran will ever be free. In a country filled with intelligent and educated people there is now a president with neither of those qualities. He is also a known murderer. He is a hard-liner. Iran is one of the freest Islamic countries in the Middel East. Men and Woman have more rights there then any other country in that region. I am afrade that will soon change.

Maybe the conditions will get so bad that there will be a revolution. It’s crazy to think Iran just had an election where both candidates were horrible. I know some might say the same about our own elections in the US, but there is no comparison. Rafsanjoni is a thief he will say anything and agree with any one to get power so he can fill his pockets. So either choice was a bad one.

Thank god for the founding fathers of the United States, our constitution, and the men and woman who protected it. As much as I complain and point out our flaws. When I look at Iran I can not even put my frustration in too words. I just want to scream.
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I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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I haven't heard much about the newly-elected president other than that he is a civil engineer who was considered to be the most fundamentalist, and that he was not Rafsanjani.

So far he seems to be saying some of the right things. Maybe he'll rise to the occasion. I hope so.

Wendy W.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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Similar posts were made about the US after you guys put Bush back in power. They voted him in - it was their call. Evidently 40% of Iran agreed with you... but that wasn't enough to carry the election. That's was democracy's all about.

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He has I think an honorary degree.
Witch in Iran means he knew the right people and knew who to pay off.
The government in Iran is so corrupt that I don’t even have a good comparison to point out.
I was for Iran to have nuclear energy, but with the new president, and other things I have been hearing from people back home it has become even a scary thought for me.

I have a feeling Iran is reaching the boiling point I am not sure if that is a good or bad thing in the long run.[:/]
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Iran is one of the freest Islamic countries in the Middel East. Men and Woman have more rights there then any other country in that region. I am afrade that will soon change.

I just want to scream.
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so much for the myth that the Iraq invasion will inspire, spread,
and sprinkle the spirits, ghosts and fairies of freedom and democracy
around the region.

How much does it take to put one and one together, how much
does it take to learn from history?

Cheers, T
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Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true

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Similar posts were made about the US after you guys put Bush back in power. They voted him in - it was their call. Evidently 40% of Iran agreed with you... but that wasn't enough to carry the election. That's was democracy's all about.



Similar post may have been made by people about Bush, but they would be wrong.

Bush did have a degree and had the same GPA as Kerry. Also, I don't know of any cases where Bush was was a Known Felon.... DO you?

A lot of the posts about Bush and Kerry were simply emotional outbursts about two very well educated people with different ideologies.

Chris

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Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty

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The difference in Iran is all the candidates have to be approved by the committee of Islamic fundamentalists.
So there was a bunch of candidates witch would have been much more capable and would have received a lot more votes. Unfortunately they did not have the right connections or simply were not fanatic enough to be approved.

It is not like here where the people get a choice. They get to choose from the people approved by the Committee. Not to mention there has been more then a few occasions where votes were tampered with.

Honestly if I was in Iran it would be a very difficult choice. Both candidates are unloved and hated by the general population. I know many that refused to vote simply to show their disgust with the so-called free election.
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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You can not even begin to compare the US to Iran.


To put it simply. If I was in Iran and GWB was running for president of Iran against these candidates. GWB would get my vote, trust, and support. And you all know i am no fan of his
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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I don’t think it was in the least bit stupid. Lets look at each line of the first post and see if similar comments were made about the US elections. You don’t have to agree with the comments, just acknowledge that some people felt like that.

He first mentions grief and sadness. Do I have to go any further than www.weresorry.com ?

Next he wonders if Iran will ever be free. There’s many on here that complain that all the new security measures being brought in by the current administration are strangling US freedoms. There are often quotes on here about the insanity of giving up freedoms in order to save freedoms.

Then he laments the fact that Iran is filled with intelligent and educated people they elect an idiot. Now I don’t know GWB so I am most certainly not casting aspersions on his intelligence but you must admit that it is the most criticized element of personality... hell he’s famous for it.

Next he states the president elect is know as a hard-liner, as is Bush. He points to fact that Iran is seen as more free than other similar nations in just the way American’s view themselves.

He then states “it’s crazy to think Iran just had an election where both candidates were horrible”… now really… do you I actually have to draw the comparison there? However you look at the candidates in the most recent US election you again have to acknowledge that this is what a massive proportion of the US was saying about them. Hell, both campaigns were run on the premise of ‘anyone but the other guy’.

Now of course the US is most certainly NOT anything like Iran… it just struck me as most incredibly odd that the first poster seemed to be picking out the ONLY things that were the same (at least to some people) between the two countries.

At first I took the post to actually be a post disguised to poke fun at the US by craftily highlighting the similarities between the two countries whilst hiding behind an overt lament for the situation in Iran… then I realized the poster probably wasn’t trying to be that clever and was simply genuinely mourning for Iran.

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At first I took the post to actually be a post disguised to poke fun at the US by craftily highlighting the similarities between the two countries whilst hiding behind an overt lament for the situation in Iran… then I realized the poster probably wasn’t trying to be that clever and was simply genuinely mourning for Iran.
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No dude i am not that clever :| usally when i have something to say i just say it. No need for games.

I am turly sad for Iran.

I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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Thank god for the founding fathers of the United States, our constitution, and the men and woman who protected it. As much as I complain and point out our flaws. When I look at Iran I can not even put my frustration in too words. I just want to scream.



Hi Darius. I've slammed you hard for some of your expressed opinions about America. So I was pleasantly surprised to see this comment (above) from you. I'm glad to see that despite some policy disagreements, that you recognize that overall, America is one of the most free and prosperous places in the world to live.

I too was disheartened to hear that a moderate candidate did not win in Iran. I hope that your home country can find a way to free themselves from hard-line religious fundamentalism in the near future. Islamic fundamentalism should be an individual choice, not a nationwide mandate.

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Thank god for the founding fathers of the United States, our constitution, and the men and woman who protected it. As much as I complain and point out our flaws. When I look at Iran I can not even put my frustration in too words. I just want to scream.



Hi Darius. I've slammed you hard for some of your expressed opinions about America. So I was pleasantly surprised to see this comment (above) from you. I'm glad to see that despite some policy disagreements, that you recognize that overall, America is one of the most free and prosperous places in the world to live.

I too was disheartened to hear that a moderate candidate did not win in Iran. I hope that your home country can find a way to free themselves from hard-line religious fundamentalism in the near future. Islamic fundamentalism should be an individual choice, not a nationwide mandate.





Thank you John.
I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain

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so much for the myth that the Iraq invasion will inspire, spread, and sprinkle the spirits, ghosts and fairies of freedom and democracy around the region.



That election happened just a few months ago, and has yet to actually take control of Iraq.

It's unrealistic to think that any benefits will magically take over the entire region like a spring bloom. The people in nearby countries would have to see the benefit gained by the Iraqis, and then demand it for themselves, against a power structure that would like to preserve itself. That sort of process takes an entire generation, not 3 months.

The positive thing for Iran is that people remember the rights they lose more than rights they never had. A fundamentalist can use force or an external bogeyman to curtail rights, but it's either temporary or done very gradually. We have a bit of the latter going on in the US right now.

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