lisamariewillbe 1 #1 June 25, 2005 Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #2 June 25, 2005 continue to be a real patriot who understands the real value of a symbol..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #3 June 25, 2005 A patriot is someone who loves and defends their country, she does neither. To bad you cant think for yourself, get your nose out your ass and bring your own views.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #4 June 25, 2005 QuoteTo bad you cant think for yourself, get your nose out your ass and bring your own views. Zenister and I don't always agree. He has some information on religion that gave me stuff to think about. However, I don't ever remember where comments like that convinced me of the validity of someones point in a discussion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #5 June 25, 2005 she IS defending our country, from the pseudo-patriots who place form higher than substance..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #6 June 25, 2005 I have no point in this, jen decided it was adult like to put a Rhino poll up, I decided she was acting like a baby, and since I cant jump , on pain meds, Im in a rather fun mood and cant stand people who cant seem to pull the stick out there ass. There was no point to her poll except a bit of public humilation for him.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #7 June 25, 2005 true perhaps, but she isnt the one who stated two 'absolutes' that could clearly come into conflict... so its not out of the question to ask? which is more important to him?____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #8 June 25, 2005 It wasnt a matter of her wanting to find out it was a matter of mocking him which is obvious, its funny people like you sit there and tell people not to judge, or dont jump to conclusions, its a free country blah blah blah , im a individual just like everyone else, but as soon as people dont agree then theres hell to pay and attacks made.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #9 June 25, 2005 when you put yourself in a ridiculous, indefensible position you deserve to be mocked.... she simply gave a clear example that would put his two absolutes into direct conflict.. i personally think it would be an interesting experiment and highly entertaining to watch... i hope when/if it happens someone gets video, and includes facial expressions for all parties involved... because in actuallity it IS only colored cloth (and not even YOUR colored cloth or you could charge them with theft at least) and anyone who would commit assault over burning cloth has some fundamental issues... so from one perspective she would be helping him work thru those issues... ____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #10 June 25, 2005 QuoteThere was no point to her poll except a bit of public humilation for him. It's o.k. she is incapable of humiliating me in any way. Getting mad at someone with a 4 year old mentality would just be uncalled for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #11 June 25, 2005 Quotebecause in actuallity it IS only colored cloth My belief system does not permit me to strike a female for any reason. But if you on the other hand burned a flag in front of me?? My belief system would not hold me back from expressing myself. I would simply throw a bucket of water on her, give her a little red wagon and a lollipop and send her on her way.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #12 June 25, 2005 well as i said, i dont burn flags, but if hypothetically i were to and you were to attack me i would defend myself, have the cops drag you off for assault, and i would press charges. not only would you be violating a fundamental principle of our country by your over reaction to my exercise of a constitutionally protected freedom, you'd also be violating several criminal laws.. i dont start fights anymore, but i dont have any problem with punishing those foolish enough to give me a 'self defense' excuse____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #13 June 25, 2005 Reading your posts is actually entertaining sometimes.. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #14 June 25, 2005 always glad to amuse..____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #15 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuotebecause in actuallity it IS only colored cloth My belief system does not permit me to strike a female for any reason. But if you on the other hand burned a flag in front of me?? My belief system would not hold me back from expressing myself. I would simply throw a bucket of water on her, give her a little red wagon and a lollipop and send her on her way.. Rhino OK, writing "Rhino" on next flag and torching it in protest of his threat of violence on a lawbiding American. (I want to tell you, they sure don't make these thing out of fire retardant material). Flag killer! Three down, eight to go. jen----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #16 June 25, 2005 Your alot of things, but you are no americanSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #17 June 25, 2005 QuoteYour alot of things, but you are no american Lisa, think about this. You want to drag citizens off in an alley and kick the shit out of them cause you don't like what they say. Does that sound very American to you? I don't see you as less of an American for your views and I certainly don't call for you being dragged in an alley and beaten for expressing yourself. I disagree with you strongly and fear you and the other "patriots" are harming our country. So, I'm burning these flags in protest of those who call for violence. Do you really have those beliefs? Would you really drag a cititen off the street and beat them for standing up for the freedoms this wonderful country was founded upon? jen----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #18 June 25, 2005 You really need to grow up missie.-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #19 June 25, 2005 My name is Lisamarie, Do you really think burning flags is an answer to anything? Get over yourself, your not important enough in the grand scheme of things to where your show of burning MY american flag is going to make any type of difference. You are doing this for the attention. You are bored, It does not matter what I would actually do , I am lucky enough to live in the south where if you burned a flag youd get trampled by others while I sat by with a little sign protesting your trampling. I can not and do not fight for my country on a physical level but if you wish to disrespect my country then be prepared for an arguement. If your not happy here and with people who have respect for a national symbol then leave, its a free country, and id be fine with that. Regardless if it is just cloth in someones opinion it is just plain out rude and only sends a statement that you are disrespectful and naiveSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #20 June 25, 2005 QuoteMy name is Lisamarie, Do you really think burning flags is an answer to anything? Get over yourself, your not important enough in the grand scheme of things to where your show of burning MY american flag is going to make any type of difference. You are doing this for the attention. You are bored, It does not matter what I would actually do , I am lucky enough to live in the south where if you burned a flag youd get trampled by others while I sat by with a little sign protesting your trampling. I can not and do not fight for my country on a physical level but if you wish to disrespect my country then be prepared for an arguement. If your not happy here and with people who have respect for a national symbol then leave, its a free country, and id be fine with that. Regardless if it is just cloth in someones opinion it is just plain out rude and only sends a statement that you are disrespectful and naive My name is Lisamarie, .... and I'm a patriot of a country that kills people and calls it Democracy. Honey, you need an intervention.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #21 June 25, 2005 Lisa, Rhino, Should I start a poll on when you two will grow the fuck up? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #22 June 26, 2005 Quote Your alot of things, but you are no american Well said.. She is that 4 year old that has to get the last word and always ends up with her nose in the corner thinking she won.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #23 June 26, 2005 Hey Jen.. Why don't you post pictures of you burning these flags. Otherwise shut the fuck up.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #24 June 26, 2005 Quote Lisa, Rhino, Should I start a poll on when you two will grow the fuck up? Seems the honest Americans are coming out of the woodworks and the kind of, conditional Americans are loosing their grip.. funny.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #25 June 26, 2005 QuoteQuote Lisa, Rhino, Should I start a poll on when you two will grow the fuck up? Seems the honest Americans are coming out of the woodworks and the kind of, conditional Americans are loosing their grip.. funny.. Would I meet your definition of "American" if I went and beat the shit out of someone because they did something I didn't agree with? That's what your advocating isn't it? If your definiton of an "American" involves hurting or imprisoning someone because because they excercise their right of free speech, I'd rather you not consider me one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
