Zenister 0 #26 June 25, 2005 yup you still dont get it, maybe you never will... but you will likely get the traditional 7 days whenever a greenie shows up...so for the last time The country is more than the flag.. nothing you can do to a flag affects the country in the least defending the flag in place of the principles it represents undermines the principles.. you can get a new flag.. you cant get new principles...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #27 June 25, 2005 Dont see that as a personal attack. Guess its all in perception, just as you dont precieve it bad to burn a flag.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #28 June 25, 2005 honestly i dont care one bit.. there isnt anything you can say over the internet i'd actually care about, but it pretty clearly violates the rules as written...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #29 June 25, 2005 Where is the applause icon? Brave Zenister! Very well said! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #30 June 25, 2005 Interesting question you pose here. Personally I would not be able to cause you harm. I might at least hesitata to defend you if someone wanted to whip your ass. You know.. Like you say .. If you aren't watching it isn't happening.. I might just have to walk away. Especially if it's another woman whipping your ass. If it's a guy I might just have to defend you verbally... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #31 June 25, 2005 QuoteI am burning it for the RIGHT reasons. Their is no right reason. As I said before. Stop talking your shit. Goto the VFW and burn your flag. If you don't you are a hot wind bagged coward... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #32 June 25, 2005 Quote you can get a new flag.. you cant get new principles... I dare you too to walk into the vfw and burn one.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #33 June 25, 2005 Quote honestly i dont care one bit.. there isnt anything you can say over the internet i'd actually care about, but it pretty clearly violates the rules as written... Funny you should talk about rules.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #34 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuote you can get a new flag.. you cant get new principles... I dare you too to walk into the vfw and burn one.. i have no reason or desire to.... but if i were to do so (in a public place, VFW is not) anyone who assualted me while doing so would be going to jail... after they were released from medical...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #35 June 25, 2005 Quoteanyone who assualted me while doing so would be going to jail.. bla bla bla.. So you don't have the backbone or the balls to back up your position.. So you have gang mentality? Would you have to be with a group of flagburners to feel comfortable doing it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zenister 0 #36 June 25, 2005 well if you reread (mouth the words if you have to) what i actually wrote you might understand.. if not i dont give a shit really... i've balls and backbone enough to back up everything i say.. or i wouldnt say it, i have no desire or inclination to burn a flag or cause you or any other misguided veteran physical harm or legal action.. however assault is assault.. if you commit it you will go to jail... no matter what you think your justification was... a judge who has actually read and understands the constitution wont care much either...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #37 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteI am burning it for the RIGHT reasons. Their is no right reason. As I said before. Stop talking your shit. Goto the VFW and burn your flag. If you don't you are a hot wind bagged coward... Rhino *** DAMN...! You beat me to it! I was just going to suggest that very thing...that or a Veterans Hospital..of better yet stand out in front of a Military Base! Make a statement with actions...not insignificant rantings on a skydiving themed website. If one truly wanted to know what you would do in a given situation...PM you and ask....or burn a flag in front of you an see! Rhino, I don't agree with your thoughts on various things...when it happens and the issue is important enough to me, I make my argument in hopefully an intelligent and thoughtful manner. Knowing full well after all this time, that I won't change your opinion...but feel better telling you mine... Posting a poll in this manner speaks volumes in regard to character and motivation. "When it's all said and done...there seems to be a lot more said here than done!" ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jenfly00 0 #38 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteyou guys scare me with your talk of doing violence to people who merely express beliefs you do not value. *** Yeah.... but ya can't be TOO scared! or ya wouldn't be scratchin' the Lions Balls! I was thinking more of chicken nuggets. *** Thank You! My point exactly....so your "Fear" isn't real! Just more TALK! You keep boasting about what you're 'going to do' with this flag or that.... If you really feel THAT strongly...and it will 'make' the statement you seem so desperate to make about the country and about yourself....then STFU and just DO IT! Post the video...and I for one will applaud your moxie for ACTUALLY doing something about you convictions! Until then the thread is nothing but a thinly veiled trolling mission with a weak semi-personal attack on Rhino. Surely you have more pressing issues to concern yourself with? Sigh. My fear is for my country and what we are becoming. I would have thought that obvious. My bad. I have nine more flags sitting in my pencil cup. I bought all the guy had (eleven). I've burned two in protest of individuals calling for violence against peaceful citizens exercising their rights as Americans. Don't worry, bro, at one time or another we've all sat back feeling super sly with our superior wit and reasoning ...only to be really embarassed to discover we just didn't understand what is going on. So lighten up, learn and have fun. It's all good ...well, right up until the "patriots" smash my face, that is. jen----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #39 June 25, 2005 and was your protest worth it? What have you accomplished? Im against protesters, I just have no way of showing it - The great , late Mitch HedburgSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #40 June 25, 2005 Don't worry, bro, Quote Please don't call me 'Bro'... It's a term of recognition and endearment, of which you've not earned...from me anyway. at one time or another we've all sat back feeling super sly with our superior wit and reasoning ... Quote Oh...have WE? again, please don't presume to speak for me, or include me in your circle. Your definition of 'superior wit and reasoning' seem to differ substantially from mine. only to be really embarassed(sic) to discover we just didn't understand what is going on. Quote Only time will tell. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rwieder 0 #41 June 25, 2005 QuoteDon't worry, bro, at one time or another we've all sat back feeling super sly with our superior wit and reasoning ...only to be really embarassed to discover we just didn't understand what is going on. C'mon now guys and gals....grow up already!-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SwampThing 0 #42 June 25, 2005 QuoteI've burned two in protest of individuals calling for violence against peaceful citizens exercising their rights as Americans. *** ME.....ME....ME....! Can I be NEXT?? Burn one with MY name on it!!! Then we can go outside and play some JUMP ROPE! The Pessimist says: "It can't possibly get any worse!" The Optimist says: "Sure it can!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #43 June 25, 2005 Quotenothing entertaining about the burning of the US flag, I dont care if it is HER flag, I dont care if she is from here, you NEVER own a flag, you just pay and display but it is never your property and unless she is burning it for the right reasons she is WRONG nothing entertaining about the burning of the US flag, Depends what it is made of. COuld you imagine a flag made of pure cotton, laced with gun powder and other volatile substances? That would be cool to watch old glory glow like it never has when place high uppon a pole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #44 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteThe American's Creed "I believe in the United States of America as a Government of the people by the people, for the people, whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed; a democracy in a Republic; a sovereign Nation of many sovereign States; a perfect Union, one and inseparable; established upon those principls of freedom, equality, justice, and humanity for which American patriots sacrificed their lives and fortunes. I therefore believe it is my duty to my Country to love it; to support its Constitution; to obey its laws; to respect its flag, and to defend it againest all enemies." YOU BURNING MY FLAG IS BASICUALLY YOU WIPING YOUR ASS WITH THE CONSTITUTION The US Sup Ct has already beat you to it - it's no fun to have second wipe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #45 June 25, 2005 Quoteyup you still dont get it, maybe you never will... but you will likely get the traditional 7 days whenever a greenie shows up...so for the last time The country is more than the flag.. nothing you can do to a flag affects the country in the least defending the flag in place of the principles it represents undermines the principles.. you can get a new flag.. you cant get new principles... Totally agree, but when someone's (parties) principles suck so bad, they have to distract the issue. In this case they pretend to care about fabric, which relieves the issue of gov murder, Fascism and all kinds of goodies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #46 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuote you can get a new flag.. you cant get new principles... I dare you too to walk into the vfw and burn one.. And see that goes outside the purview of flag burners or the supporters of such people. There act isn't to overtly offend in the venue of someone else, they want to celebrate their beliefs in a safe, legal way. To burn a flag insode a hall would be a safety concern for starters, and then it would be illegal to trespass onto somoeone elses property. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #47 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteanyone who assualted me while doing so would be going to jail.. bla bla bla.. So you don't have the backbone or the balls to back up your position.. So you have gang mentality? Would you have to be with a group of flagburners to feel comfortable doing it? Where did he say anything about a gang??? Can we pls stick to the issue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #48 June 25, 2005 Quoteand was your protest worth it? What have you accomplished? Im against protesters, I just have no way of showing it - The great , late Mitch Hedburg How aboutthe protestors of Woman Suffrage in the 1920's? How about Rosa PArks; she was a protestor. W/o protest, the gov would run amuck.... how do you feel about Viet Nam protestors from what you've read? You're prolly way too young to have witnessed it first hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #49 June 26, 2005 Quotebut when someone's (parties) principles suck so bad Funny statement coming from somone that doesn't have principles of his own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #50 June 26, 2005 QuoteQuotebut when someone's (parties) principles suck so bad Funny statement coming from somone that doesn't have principles of his own. He does, they're just different to your principles. I've noticed that you have a tendency to characterize such people as having "no principles". It's that inflexibility that I think contributes to making people want to argue with you. My 2 cents.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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rhino 0 #31 June 25, 2005 QuoteI am burning it for the RIGHT reasons. Their is no right reason. As I said before. Stop talking your shit. Goto the VFW and burn your flag. If you don't you are a hot wind bagged coward... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #32 June 25, 2005 Quote you can get a new flag.. you cant get new principles... I dare you too to walk into the vfw and burn one.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #33 June 25, 2005 Quote honestly i dont care one bit.. there isnt anything you can say over the internet i'd actually care about, but it pretty clearly violates the rules as written... Funny you should talk about rules.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #34 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuote you can get a new flag.. you cant get new principles... I dare you too to walk into the vfw and burn one.. i have no reason or desire to.... but if i were to do so (in a public place, VFW is not) anyone who assualted me while doing so would be going to jail... after they were released from medical...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #35 June 25, 2005 Quoteanyone who assualted me while doing so would be going to jail.. bla bla bla.. So you don't have the backbone or the balls to back up your position.. So you have gang mentality? Would you have to be with a group of flagburners to feel comfortable doing it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #36 June 25, 2005 well if you reread (mouth the words if you have to) what i actually wrote you might understand.. if not i dont give a shit really... i've balls and backbone enough to back up everything i say.. or i wouldnt say it, i have no desire or inclination to burn a flag or cause you or any other misguided veteran physical harm or legal action.. however assault is assault.. if you commit it you will go to jail... no matter what you think your justification was... a judge who has actually read and understands the constitution wont care much either...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #37 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteI am burning it for the RIGHT reasons. Their is no right reason. As I said before. Stop talking your shit. Goto the VFW and burn your flag. If you don't you are a hot wind bagged coward... Rhino *** DAMN...! You beat me to it! I was just going to suggest that very thing...that or a Veterans Hospital..of better yet stand out in front of a Military Base! Make a statement with actions...not insignificant rantings on a skydiving themed website. If one truly wanted to know what you would do in a given situation...PM you and ask....or burn a flag in front of you an see! Rhino, I don't agree with your thoughts on various things...when it happens and the issue is important enough to me, I make my argument in hopefully an intelligent and thoughtful manner. Knowing full well after all this time, that I won't change your opinion...but feel better telling you mine... Posting a poll in this manner speaks volumes in regard to character and motivation. "When it's all said and done...there seems to be a lot more said here than done!" ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #38 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteyou guys scare me with your talk of doing violence to people who merely express beliefs you do not value. *** Yeah.... but ya can't be TOO scared! or ya wouldn't be scratchin' the Lions Balls! I was thinking more of chicken nuggets. *** Thank You! My point exactly....so your "Fear" isn't real! Just more TALK! You keep boasting about what you're 'going to do' with this flag or that.... If you really feel THAT strongly...and it will 'make' the statement you seem so desperate to make about the country and about yourself....then STFU and just DO IT! Post the video...and I for one will applaud your moxie for ACTUALLY doing something about you convictions! Until then the thread is nothing but a thinly veiled trolling mission with a weak semi-personal attack on Rhino. Surely you have more pressing issues to concern yourself with? Sigh. My fear is for my country and what we are becoming. I would have thought that obvious. My bad. I have nine more flags sitting in my pencil cup. I bought all the guy had (eleven). I've burned two in protest of individuals calling for violence against peaceful citizens exercising their rights as Americans. Don't worry, bro, at one time or another we've all sat back feeling super sly with our superior wit and reasoning ...only to be really embarassed to discover we just didn't understand what is going on. So lighten up, learn and have fun. It's all good ...well, right up until the "patriots" smash my face, that is. jen----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #39 June 25, 2005 and was your protest worth it? What have you accomplished? Im against protesters, I just have no way of showing it - The great , late Mitch HedburgSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #40 June 25, 2005 Don't worry, bro, Quote Please don't call me 'Bro'... It's a term of recognition and endearment, of which you've not earned...from me anyway. at one time or another we've all sat back feeling super sly with our superior wit and reasoning ... Quote Oh...have WE? again, please don't presume to speak for me, or include me in your circle. Your definition of 'superior wit and reasoning' seem to differ substantially from mine. only to be really embarassed(sic) to discover we just didn't understand what is going on. Quote Only time will tell. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #41 June 25, 2005 QuoteDon't worry, bro, at one time or another we've all sat back feeling super sly with our superior wit and reasoning ...only to be really embarassed to discover we just didn't understand what is going on. C'mon now guys and gals....grow up already!-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwampThing 0 #42 June 25, 2005 QuoteI've burned two in protest of individuals calling for violence against peaceful citizens exercising their rights as Americans. *** ME.....ME....ME....! Can I be NEXT?? Burn one with MY name on it!!! Then we can go outside and play some JUMP ROPE! The Pessimist says: "It can't possibly get any worse!" The Optimist says: "Sure it can!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #43 June 25, 2005 Quotenothing entertaining about the burning of the US flag, I dont care if it is HER flag, I dont care if she is from here, you NEVER own a flag, you just pay and display but it is never your property and unless she is burning it for the right reasons she is WRONG nothing entertaining about the burning of the US flag, Depends what it is made of. COuld you imagine a flag made of pure cotton, laced with gun powder and other volatile substances? That would be cool to watch old glory glow like it never has when place high uppon a pole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #44 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteThe American's Creed "I believe in the United States of America as a Government of the people by the people, for the people, whose just powers are derived from the consent of the governed; a democracy in a Republic; a sovereign Nation of many sovereign States; a perfect Union, one and inseparable; established upon those principls of freedom, equality, justice, and humanity for which American patriots sacrificed their lives and fortunes. I therefore believe it is my duty to my Country to love it; to support its Constitution; to obey its laws; to respect its flag, and to defend it againest all enemies." YOU BURNING MY FLAG IS BASICUALLY YOU WIPING YOUR ASS WITH THE CONSTITUTION The US Sup Ct has already beat you to it - it's no fun to have second wipe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #45 June 25, 2005 Quoteyup you still dont get it, maybe you never will... but you will likely get the traditional 7 days whenever a greenie shows up...so for the last time The country is more than the flag.. nothing you can do to a flag affects the country in the least defending the flag in place of the principles it represents undermines the principles.. you can get a new flag.. you cant get new principles... Totally agree, but when someone's (parties) principles suck so bad, they have to distract the issue. In this case they pretend to care about fabric, which relieves the issue of gov murder, Fascism and all kinds of goodies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #46 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuote you can get a new flag.. you cant get new principles... I dare you too to walk into the vfw and burn one.. And see that goes outside the purview of flag burners or the supporters of such people. There act isn't to overtly offend in the venue of someone else, they want to celebrate their beliefs in a safe, legal way. To burn a flag insode a hall would be a safety concern for starters, and then it would be illegal to trespass onto somoeone elses property. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #47 June 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteanyone who assualted me while doing so would be going to jail.. bla bla bla.. So you don't have the backbone or the balls to back up your position.. So you have gang mentality? Would you have to be with a group of flagburners to feel comfortable doing it? Where did he say anything about a gang??? Can we pls stick to the issue? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #48 June 25, 2005 Quoteand was your protest worth it? What have you accomplished? Im against protesters, I just have no way of showing it - The great , late Mitch Hedburg How aboutthe protestors of Woman Suffrage in the 1920's? How about Rosa PArks; she was a protestor. W/o protest, the gov would run amuck.... how do you feel about Viet Nam protestors from what you've read? You're prolly way too young to have witnessed it first hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #49 June 26, 2005 Quotebut when someone's (parties) principles suck so bad Funny statement coming from somone that doesn't have principles of his own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #50 June 26, 2005 QuoteQuotebut when someone's (parties) principles suck so bad Funny statement coming from somone that doesn't have principles of his own. He does, they're just different to your principles. I've noticed that you have a tendency to characterize such people as having "no principles". It's that inflexibility that I think contributes to making people want to argue with you. My 2 cents.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
