eaglenrider 0 #26 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuoteClear use of excessive force. That officer is a DICK. ?????? She got pulled over for: 1. Doing 51 in a 35. __________________________________________________ Clear case of "driving while black"! Do you have any idea how radar works? Do you realize that vibrations from stereo speakers can register as speed to a radar? So the sista' was gettin' down to some MC Hammer . Is that so wrong? OK, if it was MC Hammer she should be locked up, but you see where I'm comin' from. Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenek II and the Archduke Ferdinand on my fathers side. Direct decsendant of Geronimo and Dolly Madison on my mothers. 4th cousin twice removed to George W. Bush Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #27 June 17, 2005 QuoteDo you realize that vibrations from stereo speakers can register as speed to a radar? We know that's not the case because she was on her cell phone. Try again. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #28 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuoteDo you realize that vibrations from stereo speakers can register as speed to a radar? We know that's not the case because she was on her cell phone. Try again. _________________________________________________ Sorry Counsler ,you are speculating. Talking on a cell phone does not preclude a member of race from listening to the stereo at full blast while eating a bucket of finger lickin'good! Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenek II Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #29 June 17, 2005 Quote but you see where I'm comin' from. I do see what you mean. People would rather make up goofy excuses than admit that they were actually speeding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #30 June 17, 2005 dude you sound like a broken record. Get back to me when you're fixed.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #31 June 17, 2005 Quotedude you sound like a broken record. Get back to me when you're fixed. And YOU don't sound like a broken record? Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #32 June 17, 2005 QuoteClear case of "driving while black"! Clear case of driving while stupid QuoteDo you have any idea how radar works? Yes, I have a working knowledge of Radar. QuoteDo you realize that vibrations from stereo speakers can register as speed to a radar? So the sista' was gettin' down to some MC Hammer . Is that so wrong? OK, if it was MC Hammer she should be locked up, but you see where I'm comin' from. Yes, you would rather make excuses for criminal behavior than hold the criminal accountable."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Darius11 12 #33 June 17, 2005 No I don’t think so. I look at facts. Maybe some facts I am able to see and some I don’t. But I don’t always say you hate America or white Americans whenever someone doesn’t agree with me. I bring up points as to why I feel the way I do. And when I am asked a question I don’t dodge them I answer them. So no I don’t sound like a broken record. My view doesn’t change so yes my views are the same. I also don’t attack the poster unless the poster has attacked me personally. I am sick of bringing up points and all I get in response is that I hate America. If you don’t have a valid point to add then leave your opinion of who I am or how I feel out of the discussion.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #34 June 17, 2005 Quote I look at facts. Maybe some facts I am able to see and some I don’t. You said that non-white americans are treated differently by the police, yet provided no facts or evidence to suggest it, while at the same time saying you look at facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #35 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuoteClear case of "driving while black"! QuoteDo you realize that vibrations from stereo speakers can register as speed to a radar? Yes, you would rather make excuses for criminal behavior than hold the criminal accountable. __________________________________________________ Gee Ron, aren't you the little judge and jury twinn pack! Have you ever heard of the idea of innocent until proven guilty? The woman obviously should never have been pulled over as the equipment has serious technical flaws. The equipment is not suited to distinguish between speed and vibration. As a matter of fact, the equipment utilizes vibration to determine speed. Ever hear of the tuning fork? Ever hear of reasonable doubt? When will We put our foot down and demand an end to this Facist ,police state??? What has happened to Freedom in the land where we have govwernment agents demanding our"papers please"? No .Ron, the woman isn't guilty becasuse of what you *think* you saw on video. As a matter of fact, all video is too easily manipulatable to ever stand as "evidence" in any fair and just court. Blues, Cliff Wisdom inherited from Soloman Bullshit inherited from Cojohnes the Bull Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites storm1977 0 #36 June 17, 2005 i don't know about hating america... but hating Whitie maybe. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites storm1977 0 #37 June 17, 2005 I honestly can't tell if you are being serious.... If you are, I feel bad for you :-) ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #38 June 17, 2005 Quotei don't know about hating america... but hating Whitie maybe. Hating "whitie", Storm? In todays atmosphere of political correctness that term has been replaced with "Blue-eyed devil". Please make a note of it! Blues, Cliff 2nd cousin to Louis Farrakan Blood brother to Al Franken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites storm1977 0 #39 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuotei don't know about hating america... but hating Whitie maybe. Hating "whitie", Storm? In todays atmosphere of political correctness that term has been replaced with "Blue-eyed devil". Please make a note of it! Blues, Cliff 2nd cousin to Louis Farrakan Blood brother to Al Franken Note taken... (I have green eyes though, guess I am OK) ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #40 June 17, 2005 QuoteGee Ron, aren't you the little judge and jury twinn pack! Well sure, whatever. QuoteHave you ever heard of the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Do you deny that she was resisting arrest? I mean it is on the video clear as day. Also why you might be able to say she was not speeding...Yeah, she blew by a cop in an undercover Cobra....She WAS driving on a suspended license...Which BTW is illegal, and grounds for arrest. So she IS a criminal. We have video of her driving at a speed that appears to be above the limit...So hey, don't write her a ticket, just arrest her for driving without a license. QuoteEver hear of the tuning fork? Yes. Like I said I have a working knowledge of Radar. QuoteEver hear of reasonable doubt? Ever hear of video proof of a person who is driving without a license and resisting arrest? Hard to argue with video. Quit making excuses for criminals."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #41 June 17, 2005 Quote Gee Ron, aren't you the little judge and jury twinn pack! I'd say he is reasonable. Quote Have you ever heard of the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Ever heard of having evidence on video? Quote The woman obviously should never have been pulled over as the equipment has serious technical flaws. Equipment flaws like a driving w/o a license, a broken tail light and a broken windshield? Quote The equipment is not suited to distinguish between speed and vibration. It works pretty well for most every PD in the US. I don't think you know how radar works. Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? Quote Ever hear of the tuning fork? Yep, doesn't have much to do with anything thats being discussed. Quote Ever hear of reasonable doubt? When you witness someone commiting a crime on video, reasonable doubt pretty much gets its ass kicked out the window. Quote When will We put our foot down and demand an end to this Facist ,police state??? When will people stop making up bullshit excuses to try to get out of a crime they committed? QuoteNo .Ron, the woman isn't guilty becasuse of what you *think* you saw on video. No, she is guilty because of what a judge and jury saw on video. Duh. Quote As a matter of fact, all video is too easily manipulatable to ever stand as "evidence" in any fair and just court. Yep, I sure the cops would spend the money to edit a videotape to convict the assbag in this video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #42 June 17, 2005 QuoteI honestly can't tell if you are being serious.... Andy Kauphman is God. "Nietzsche Is Dead" -GOD- Blues, Cliff Wisdom of Soloman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #43 June 17, 2005 Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? __________________________________________________ You mean like ,perhaps, pacing? Because if the cop was pacing her car,and he had an accurate tally of her speed.., He was speeding as well. When the police break the law there is no law, only anarchy.-Billy Jack Blues, Cliff Direct descendant of Geronimo ,Curly,and Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #44 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuote I look at facts. Maybe some facts I am able to see and some I don’t. You said that non-white americans are treated differently by the police, yet provided no facts or evidence to suggest it, while at the same time saying you look at facts. I think it's valid to say that non-white Americans are treated differently by police, BUT I think the larger picture includes context. Let's say a rich white kid is pulled over in an area where drug dealing is common. He is going to be treated very differently than if he had been pulled over in his home neighborhood. The difference is that in the drug area he will fit the profile as a buyer of drugs. Now let's replace the rich white kid with a rich black kid. Is he not more likely to be perceived as a drug dealer in the drug area vs. a drug buyer? I'm not slamming the police here. I think they look at a larger picture and doubt that it is common to pull someone over simply because of their skin color. On the other hand, when people claim to have been pulled over because of skin color, the larger context is generally left out. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #45 June 17, 2005 Quote Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? __________________________________________________ You mean like ,perhaps, pacing? Because if the cop was pacing her car,and he had an accurate tally of her speed.., He was speeding as well. When the police break the law there is no law, only anarchy.-Billy Jack Blues, Cliff Direct descendant of Geronimo ,Curly,and Larry Actually, I was thinking more of LIDAR. It is pretty popular in my area, as most of the time it doesn't set off radar detectors. Even if she wasn't speeding, the officer still had two good reasons to pull her over. I doubt that her reaction would have been any different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #46 June 17, 2005 So hey, don't write her a ticket, just arrest her for driving without a license. _________________________________________________ That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. If I defend her the Lady walks! Blues, Cliff can't think of the name but I am related to one of the greatest lawyers of all time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #47 June 17, 2005 Quote That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. You're leaving out the broken tail light and windshield. Quote If I defend her the Lady walks right into prison Fixed it fer ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #48 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuote That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. You're leaving out the broken tail light and windshield. __________________________________________________ But the officer stated that the reason he stopped her was for speeding. He didn't start writing up the other charges until after he fired mega volts into the poor, defensless,Black woman. Blues, Cliff Blood of Soloman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fallingchip 0 #49 June 17, 2005 QuoteWHo knows. I didn't get out of my next ticket, though. That dern hispanic cop pinching me for a right turn on red. What a bigot. He was a bigot why?______________________________________________ "A radical man is a man with both feet firmly planted in the air." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #50 June 17, 2005 He was a bigot why? Often that's just how people are raised and they never rise above . Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenek II Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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lawrocket 3 #27 June 17, 2005 QuoteDo you realize that vibrations from stereo speakers can register as speed to a radar? We know that's not the case because she was on her cell phone. Try again. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #28 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuoteDo you realize that vibrations from stereo speakers can register as speed to a radar? We know that's not the case because she was on her cell phone. Try again. _________________________________________________ Sorry Counsler ,you are speculating. Talking on a cell phone does not preclude a member of race from listening to the stereo at full blast while eating a bucket of finger lickin'good! Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenek II Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #29 June 17, 2005 Quote but you see where I'm comin' from. I do see what you mean. People would rather make up goofy excuses than admit that they were actually speeding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #30 June 17, 2005 dude you sound like a broken record. Get back to me when you're fixed.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #31 June 17, 2005 Quotedude you sound like a broken record. Get back to me when you're fixed. And YOU don't sound like a broken record? Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #32 June 17, 2005 QuoteClear case of "driving while black"! Clear case of driving while stupid QuoteDo you have any idea how radar works? Yes, I have a working knowledge of Radar. QuoteDo you realize that vibrations from stereo speakers can register as speed to a radar? So the sista' was gettin' down to some MC Hammer . Is that so wrong? OK, if it was MC Hammer she should be locked up, but you see where I'm comin' from. Yes, you would rather make excuses for criminal behavior than hold the criminal accountable."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #33 June 17, 2005 No I don’t think so. I look at facts. Maybe some facts I am able to see and some I don’t. But I don’t always say you hate America or white Americans whenever someone doesn’t agree with me. I bring up points as to why I feel the way I do. And when I am asked a question I don’t dodge them I answer them. So no I don’t sound like a broken record. My view doesn’t change so yes my views are the same. I also don’t attack the poster unless the poster has attacked me personally. I am sick of bringing up points and all I get in response is that I hate America. If you don’t have a valid point to add then leave your opinion of who I am or how I feel out of the discussion.I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #34 June 17, 2005 Quote I look at facts. Maybe some facts I am able to see and some I don’t. You said that non-white americans are treated differently by the police, yet provided no facts or evidence to suggest it, while at the same time saying you look at facts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #35 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuoteClear case of "driving while black"! QuoteDo you realize that vibrations from stereo speakers can register as speed to a radar? Yes, you would rather make excuses for criminal behavior than hold the criminal accountable. __________________________________________________ Gee Ron, aren't you the little judge and jury twinn pack! Have you ever heard of the idea of innocent until proven guilty? The woman obviously should never have been pulled over as the equipment has serious technical flaws. The equipment is not suited to distinguish between speed and vibration. As a matter of fact, the equipment utilizes vibration to determine speed. Ever hear of the tuning fork? Ever hear of reasonable doubt? When will We put our foot down and demand an end to this Facist ,police state??? What has happened to Freedom in the land where we have govwernment agents demanding our"papers please"? No .Ron, the woman isn't guilty becasuse of what you *think* you saw on video. As a matter of fact, all video is too easily manipulatable to ever stand as "evidence" in any fair and just court. Blues, Cliff Wisdom inherited from Soloman Bullshit inherited from Cojohnes the Bull Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites storm1977 0 #36 June 17, 2005 i don't know about hating america... but hating Whitie maybe. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites storm1977 0 #37 June 17, 2005 I honestly can't tell if you are being serious.... If you are, I feel bad for you :-) ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #38 June 17, 2005 Quotei don't know about hating america... but hating Whitie maybe. Hating "whitie", Storm? In todays atmosphere of political correctness that term has been replaced with "Blue-eyed devil". Please make a note of it! Blues, Cliff 2nd cousin to Louis Farrakan Blood brother to Al Franken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites storm1977 0 #39 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuotei don't know about hating america... but hating Whitie maybe. Hating "whitie", Storm? In todays atmosphere of political correctness that term has been replaced with "Blue-eyed devil". Please make a note of it! Blues, Cliff 2nd cousin to Louis Farrakan Blood brother to Al Franken Note taken... (I have green eyes though, guess I am OK) ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #40 June 17, 2005 QuoteGee Ron, aren't you the little judge and jury twinn pack! Well sure, whatever. QuoteHave you ever heard of the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Do you deny that she was resisting arrest? I mean it is on the video clear as day. Also why you might be able to say she was not speeding...Yeah, she blew by a cop in an undercover Cobra....She WAS driving on a suspended license...Which BTW is illegal, and grounds for arrest. So she IS a criminal. We have video of her driving at a speed that appears to be above the limit...So hey, don't write her a ticket, just arrest her for driving without a license. QuoteEver hear of the tuning fork? Yes. Like I said I have a working knowledge of Radar. QuoteEver hear of reasonable doubt? Ever hear of video proof of a person who is driving without a license and resisting arrest? Hard to argue with video. Quit making excuses for criminals."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #41 June 17, 2005 Quote Gee Ron, aren't you the little judge and jury twinn pack! I'd say he is reasonable. Quote Have you ever heard of the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Ever heard of having evidence on video? Quote The woman obviously should never have been pulled over as the equipment has serious technical flaws. Equipment flaws like a driving w/o a license, a broken tail light and a broken windshield? Quote The equipment is not suited to distinguish between speed and vibration. It works pretty well for most every PD in the US. I don't think you know how radar works. Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? Quote Ever hear of the tuning fork? Yep, doesn't have much to do with anything thats being discussed. Quote Ever hear of reasonable doubt? When you witness someone commiting a crime on video, reasonable doubt pretty much gets its ass kicked out the window. Quote When will We put our foot down and demand an end to this Facist ,police state??? When will people stop making up bullshit excuses to try to get out of a crime they committed? QuoteNo .Ron, the woman isn't guilty becasuse of what you *think* you saw on video. No, she is guilty because of what a judge and jury saw on video. Duh. Quote As a matter of fact, all video is too easily manipulatable to ever stand as "evidence" in any fair and just court. Yep, I sure the cops would spend the money to edit a videotape to convict the assbag in this video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #42 June 17, 2005 QuoteI honestly can't tell if you are being serious.... Andy Kauphman is God. "Nietzsche Is Dead" -GOD- Blues, Cliff Wisdom of Soloman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #43 June 17, 2005 Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? __________________________________________________ You mean like ,perhaps, pacing? Because if the cop was pacing her car,and he had an accurate tally of her speed.., He was speeding as well. When the police break the law there is no law, only anarchy.-Billy Jack Blues, Cliff Direct descendant of Geronimo ,Curly,and Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #44 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuote I look at facts. Maybe some facts I am able to see and some I don’t. You said that non-white americans are treated differently by the police, yet provided no facts or evidence to suggest it, while at the same time saying you look at facts. I think it's valid to say that non-white Americans are treated differently by police, BUT I think the larger picture includes context. Let's say a rich white kid is pulled over in an area where drug dealing is common. He is going to be treated very differently than if he had been pulled over in his home neighborhood. The difference is that in the drug area he will fit the profile as a buyer of drugs. Now let's replace the rich white kid with a rich black kid. Is he not more likely to be perceived as a drug dealer in the drug area vs. a drug buyer? I'm not slamming the police here. I think they look at a larger picture and doubt that it is common to pull someone over simply because of their skin color. On the other hand, when people claim to have been pulled over because of skin color, the larger context is generally left out. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #45 June 17, 2005 Quote Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? __________________________________________________ You mean like ,perhaps, pacing? Because if the cop was pacing her car,and he had an accurate tally of her speed.., He was speeding as well. When the police break the law there is no law, only anarchy.-Billy Jack Blues, Cliff Direct descendant of Geronimo ,Curly,and Larry Actually, I was thinking more of LIDAR. It is pretty popular in my area, as most of the time it doesn't set off radar detectors. Even if she wasn't speeding, the officer still had two good reasons to pull her over. I doubt that her reaction would have been any different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #46 June 17, 2005 So hey, don't write her a ticket, just arrest her for driving without a license. _________________________________________________ That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. If I defend her the Lady walks! Blues, Cliff can't think of the name but I am related to one of the greatest lawyers of all time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #47 June 17, 2005 Quote That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. You're leaving out the broken tail light and windshield. Quote If I defend her the Lady walks right into prison Fixed it fer ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #48 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuote That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. You're leaving out the broken tail light and windshield. __________________________________________________ But the officer stated that the reason he stopped her was for speeding. He didn't start writing up the other charges until after he fired mega volts into the poor, defensless,Black woman. Blues, Cliff Blood of Soloman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fallingchip 0 #49 June 17, 2005 QuoteWHo knows. I didn't get out of my next ticket, though. That dern hispanic cop pinching me for a right turn on red. What a bigot. He was a bigot why?______________________________________________ "A radical man is a man with both feet firmly planted in the air." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #50 June 17, 2005 He was a bigot why? Often that's just how people are raised and they never rise above . Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenek II Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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storm1977 0 #36 June 17, 2005 i don't know about hating america... but hating Whitie maybe. ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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eaglenrider 0 #38 June 17, 2005 Quotei don't know about hating america... but hating Whitie maybe. Hating "whitie", Storm? In todays atmosphere of political correctness that term has been replaced with "Blue-eyed devil". Please make a note of it! Blues, Cliff 2nd cousin to Louis Farrakan Blood brother to Al Franken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
storm1977 0 #39 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuotei don't know about hating america... but hating Whitie maybe. Hating "whitie", Storm? In todays atmosphere of political correctness that term has been replaced with "Blue-eyed devil". Please make a note of it! Blues, Cliff 2nd cousin to Louis Farrakan Blood brother to Al Franken Note taken... (I have green eyes though, guess I am OK) ----------------------------------------------------- Sometimes it is more important to protect LIFE than Liberty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #40 June 17, 2005 QuoteGee Ron, aren't you the little judge and jury twinn pack! Well sure, whatever. QuoteHave you ever heard of the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Do you deny that she was resisting arrest? I mean it is on the video clear as day. Also why you might be able to say she was not speeding...Yeah, she blew by a cop in an undercover Cobra....She WAS driving on a suspended license...Which BTW is illegal, and grounds for arrest. So she IS a criminal. We have video of her driving at a speed that appears to be above the limit...So hey, don't write her a ticket, just arrest her for driving without a license. QuoteEver hear of the tuning fork? Yes. Like I said I have a working knowledge of Radar. QuoteEver hear of reasonable doubt? Ever hear of video proof of a person who is driving without a license and resisting arrest? Hard to argue with video. Quit making excuses for criminals."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #41 June 17, 2005 Quote Gee Ron, aren't you the little judge and jury twinn pack! I'd say he is reasonable. Quote Have you ever heard of the idea of innocent until proven guilty? Ever heard of having evidence on video? Quote The woman obviously should never have been pulled over as the equipment has serious technical flaws. Equipment flaws like a driving w/o a license, a broken tail light and a broken windshield? Quote The equipment is not suited to distinguish between speed and vibration. It works pretty well for most every PD in the US. I don't think you know how radar works. Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? Quote Ever hear of the tuning fork? Yep, doesn't have much to do with anything thats being discussed. Quote Ever hear of reasonable doubt? When you witness someone commiting a crime on video, reasonable doubt pretty much gets its ass kicked out the window. Quote When will We put our foot down and demand an end to this Facist ,police state??? When will people stop making up bullshit excuses to try to get out of a crime they committed? QuoteNo .Ron, the woman isn't guilty becasuse of what you *think* you saw on video. No, she is guilty because of what a judge and jury saw on video. Duh. Quote As a matter of fact, all video is too easily manipulatable to ever stand as "evidence" in any fair and just court. Yep, I sure the cops would spend the money to edit a videotape to convict the assbag in this video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #42 June 17, 2005 QuoteI honestly can't tell if you are being serious.... Andy Kauphman is God. "Nietzsche Is Dead" -GOD- Blues, Cliff Wisdom of Soloman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #43 June 17, 2005 Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? __________________________________________________ You mean like ,perhaps, pacing? Because if the cop was pacing her car,and he had an accurate tally of her speed.., He was speeding as well. When the police break the law there is no law, only anarchy.-Billy Jack Blues, Cliff Direct descendant of Geronimo ,Curly,and Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites waltappel 1 #44 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuote I look at facts. Maybe some facts I am able to see and some I don’t. You said that non-white americans are treated differently by the police, yet provided no facts or evidence to suggest it, while at the same time saying you look at facts. I think it's valid to say that non-white Americans are treated differently by police, BUT I think the larger picture includes context. Let's say a rich white kid is pulled over in an area where drug dealing is common. He is going to be treated very differently than if he had been pulled over in his home neighborhood. The difference is that in the drug area he will fit the profile as a buyer of drugs. Now let's replace the rich white kid with a rich black kid. Is he not more likely to be perceived as a drug dealer in the drug area vs. a drug buyer? I'm not slamming the police here. I think they look at a larger picture and doubt that it is common to pull someone over simply because of their skin color. On the other hand, when people claim to have been pulled over because of skin color, the larger context is generally left out. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #45 June 17, 2005 Quote Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? __________________________________________________ You mean like ,perhaps, pacing? Because if the cop was pacing her car,and he had an accurate tally of her speed.., He was speeding as well. When the police break the law there is no law, only anarchy.-Billy Jack Blues, Cliff Direct descendant of Geronimo ,Curly,and Larry Actually, I was thinking more of LIDAR. It is pretty popular in my area, as most of the time it doesn't set off radar detectors. Even if she wasn't speeding, the officer still had two good reasons to pull her over. I doubt that her reaction would have been any different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #46 June 17, 2005 So hey, don't write her a ticket, just arrest her for driving without a license. _________________________________________________ That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. If I defend her the Lady walks! Blues, Cliff can't think of the name but I am related to one of the greatest lawyers of all time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #47 June 17, 2005 Quote That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. You're leaving out the broken tail light and windshield. Quote If I defend her the Lady walks right into prison Fixed it fer ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #48 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuote That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. You're leaving out the broken tail light and windshield. __________________________________________________ But the officer stated that the reason he stopped her was for speeding. He didn't start writing up the other charges until after he fired mega volts into the poor, defensless,Black woman. Blues, Cliff Blood of Soloman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fallingchip 0 #49 June 17, 2005 QuoteWHo knows. I didn't get out of my next ticket, though. That dern hispanic cop pinching me for a right turn on red. What a bigot. He was a bigot why?______________________________________________ "A radical man is a man with both feet firmly planted in the air." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #50 June 17, 2005 He was a bigot why? Often that's just how people are raised and they never rise above . 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eaglenrider 0 #43 June 17, 2005 Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? __________________________________________________ You mean like ,perhaps, pacing? Because if the cop was pacing her car,and he had an accurate tally of her speed.., He was speeding as well. When the police break the law there is no law, only anarchy.-Billy Jack Blues, Cliff Direct descendant of Geronimo ,Curly,and Larry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #44 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuote I look at facts. Maybe some facts I am able to see and some I don’t. You said that non-white americans are treated differently by the police, yet provided no facts or evidence to suggest it, while at the same time saying you look at facts. I think it's valid to say that non-white Americans are treated differently by police, BUT I think the larger picture includes context. Let's say a rich white kid is pulled over in an area where drug dealing is common. He is going to be treated very differently than if he had been pulled over in his home neighborhood. The difference is that in the drug area he will fit the profile as a buyer of drugs. Now let's replace the rich white kid with a rich black kid. Is he not more likely to be perceived as a drug dealer in the drug area vs. a drug buyer? I'm not slamming the police here. I think they look at a larger picture and doubt that it is common to pull someone over simply because of their skin color. On the other hand, when people claim to have been pulled over because of skin color, the larger context is generally left out. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #45 June 17, 2005 Quote Also, did you ever think that maybe the speed was determined using other methods? __________________________________________________ You mean like ,perhaps, pacing? Because if the cop was pacing her car,and he had an accurate tally of her speed.., He was speeding as well. When the police break the law there is no law, only anarchy.-Billy Jack Blues, Cliff Direct descendant of Geronimo ,Curly,and Larry Actually, I was thinking more of LIDAR. It is pretty popular in my area, as most of the time it doesn't set off radar detectors. Even if she wasn't speeding, the officer still had two good reasons to pull her over. I doubt that her reaction would have been any different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #46 June 17, 2005 So hey, don't write her a ticket, just arrest her for driving without a license. _________________________________________________ That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. If I defend her the Lady walks! Blues, Cliff can't think of the name but I am related to one of the greatest lawyers of all time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #47 June 17, 2005 Quote That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. You're leaving out the broken tail light and windshield. Quote If I defend her the Lady walks right into prison Fixed it fer ya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #48 June 17, 2005 QuoteQuote That won't work. If the speeding charge is bogus the police had no reason to pull her over and demand her papers. You're leaving out the broken tail light and windshield. __________________________________________________ But the officer stated that the reason he stopped her was for speeding. He didn't start writing up the other charges until after he fired mega volts into the poor, defensless,Black woman. Blues, Cliff Blood of Soloman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites fallingchip 0 #49 June 17, 2005 QuoteWHo knows. I didn't get out of my next ticket, though. That dern hispanic cop pinching me for a right turn on red. What a bigot. He was a bigot why?______________________________________________ "A radical man is a man with both feet firmly planted in the air." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites eaglenrider 0 #50 June 17, 2005 He was a bigot why? Often that's just how people are raised and they never rise above . Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenek II Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fallingchip 0 #49 June 17, 2005 QuoteWHo knows. I didn't get out of my next ticket, though. That dern hispanic cop pinching me for a right turn on red. What a bigot. He was a bigot why?______________________________________________ "A radical man is a man with both feet firmly planted in the air." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eaglenrider 0 #50 June 17, 2005 He was a bigot why? Often that's just how people are raised and they never rise above . Blues, Cliff Blood of Melenek II Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
