hooked 0 #51 June 14, 2005 Quoteoh michele, dear friend, it is so funny to hear some others try to spar w/ you... lordie sakes alive... these posts have proven to be very entertaining. It is indeed! J -------------------------------------- Sometimes we're just being Humans.....But we're always Human Beings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #52 June 14, 2005 All this proves is that a rich white guy can get away with anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyRamone 0 #53 June 14, 2005 One more child molester goed free I hope someone kills his ass Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #54 June 14, 2005 QuoteOne more child molester goed free I hope someone kills his ass Linch the MF! "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #55 June 14, 2005 QuoteAll counts in He's not guilty on all counts! Rightly so, this case shouldn't have even made it to court. It wouldn't have done if Janet Arvisio knew that she wasn't liable for civil damages and a fat payout too. No one for sure can call yay or nay on the molestation, but i think it's pretty straightforward for most of us to see a gold digging waste of space like Janet Arvisio when we see one. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,113 #56 June 14, 2005 Some day you may wish to persuade someone intelligent and well educated, rather than dz.com readers, of the validity of your position. In that case good spelling and correct grammar will help.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #57 June 14, 2005 "Some day you may wish to persuade someone intelligent and well educated, rather than dz.com readers" hahahahaa You have got that rightSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KATO33 0 #58 June 14, 2005 QuoteWith that being said, lets analyze the taboo of “Child Molestation”. Is being sexually molested by MJ as terrible as it is made out to be? These children got treated like royalty by a famous rock star. They got to stay at Neverland Ranch and lived a life only unattainable to .0001% of the population. I didn’t hear about anyone being bound and gagged. Nobody had cuts and bruises. Nobody had broken bones. At the ripe age of 12, you have enough common sense to know what is happening. I feel that many of MJ’s “victims” were homosexual and were consenting to these sexual acts in an effort to explore their predilection. If two people are consenting to participate in a sexual act, I don’t feel that ANYONE is a victim. It is society that introduces guilt and taboo to the situation. In Roman times you will find that pedophilia was common place. Sounds Like a NAMBLA Member to ME. Blue Skies Black Death Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumperboy357 0 #59 June 14, 2005 I thought it was quite interesting that the police seized pornography from MJ's bedroom and the child's fingerprints where all over them. Hmmmm. To me it redefines Whacko Jacko. Sleeping with little boys? What a freak!!!! He should have his penis cut off!!! The prosecution did suck though. But in LA if you have money you can get off. Just look at OJ. Robert Blake and now MJ. If you ask me they should get new prosecutors in LA. Now I here Saddam wants to move his trial there too. SSG James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #60 June 14, 2005 It was up to the police, the district attorney and ultimately the grand jury to decide to take this case to court, NOT the boy's mother. Also, I may be wrong with the timeline, but didn't the police approach the family after the infamous documentary- not the other way around? The police have been waiting for 10 years or more for the opportunity to try MJ for child molestation, and they saw an opportunity with this boy. They went full steam ahead without taking into consideration the credibility of their primary witnesses. Overzealous prosecution? Probably. Malicious or racially motivated as MJ's people would have you believe? I don't think so. Is MJ guilty of molesting kids? Probably. (I think so, anyway.) Did the prosectution gather enough evidence and prove their case? Apparently not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #61 June 14, 2005 ***I thought it was quite interesting that the police seized pornography from MJ's bedroom and the child's fingerprints where all over them. Hmmmm. To me it redefines Whacko Jacko. You know it's a good thing nobody fingerprinted my Fathers Playboy magazines he had hiding above some ductwork when I was young. My fingerprints would have been all over them. Kids will be kids. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #62 June 14, 2005 Did the entire case gather steam, momentum and become built up around the testimony of a money hungry “parent†who tried to whore her own child out and, who has done- most likely- irrepairable psychological damage to her own offspring in an attempt for pure financial gain, who wasted millions of tax payers money and who, ironically, caused the jury to side with the defendant in the case? Definitely. "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #63 June 14, 2005 I'm not saying she isn't all of those things. It was still up to the prosecution to make sure they had a solid case to present and check their witnesses out. That said, the case was so high profile, once the ball got rolling, I doubt they had much choice but to prosecute even if this woman and her son were all they really had. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newbie 0 #64 June 14, 2005 Yeah true, good point(s) "Skydiving is a door" Happythoughts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #65 June 14, 2005 Triumph has the same feelings_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #66 June 14, 2005 QuoteQuoteWith that being said, lets analyze the taboo of “Child Molestation”. Is being sexually molested by MJ as terrible as it is made out to be? These children got treated like royalty by a famous rock star. They got to stay at Neverland Ranch and lived a life only unattainable to .0001% of the population. I didn’t hear about anyone being bound and gagged. Nobody had cuts and bruises. Nobody had broken bones. At the ripe age of 12, you have enough common sense to know what is happening. I feel that many of MJ’s “victims” were homosexual and were consenting to these sexual acts in an effort to explore their predilection. If two people are consenting to participate in a sexual act, I don’t feel that ANYONE is a victim. It is society that introduces guilt and taboo to the situation. In Roman times you will find that pedophilia was common place. Sounds Like a NAMBLA Member to ME. MJ doesn't look like Marlon Brando. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michele 1 #67 June 14, 2005 I was thinking that, had the prosecution NOT charged him with kidnapping, conspiracy, and a few of the other charges, the mother would not have testified, and thus the prosecution would have been cleaner and more succinct...perhaps leading to a conviction on the molestation charges themselves. I feel that stacking the charges like this may have made a significant difference, as it allowed the mother to testify, and if that's indeed one of the issues in the jury's decision (and I think it might be), it would have taken that reason away. To me, the prosecution was "greedy" and threw as much against the wall as they could, hoping something would stick. That method of prosecution speaks to an altogether different motive for bringing charges than the ideal ones. Just a thought as I run out to the office. Ciels- Michele ~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek While our hearts lie bleeding?~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #68 June 14, 2005 QuoteI was thinking that, had the prosecution NOT charged him with kidnapping, conspiracy, and a few of the other charges, the mother would not have testified, and thus the prosecution would have been cleaner and more succinct...perhaps leading to a conviction on the molestation charges themselves. I feel that stacking the charges like this may have made a significant difference, as it allowed the mother to testify, and if that's indeed one of the issues in the jury's decision (and I think it might be), it would have taken that reason away. To me, the prosecution was "greedy" and threw as much against the wall as they could, hoping something would stick. That method of prosecution speaks to an altogether different motive for bringing charges than the ideal ones. Just a thought as I run out to the office. Ciels- Michele That sentiment is being echoed by a lot of prosecutors and defense attorneys. The conspiracy witnesses sank the prosecution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #69 June 22, 2005 QuoteAll this proves is that a rich white guy can get away with anything. Awesome.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
