MJ NOt guilty

[lisamariewillbe 1]

If any of my feelings would have been pre, they would have been said before the accusations and trial, however they are POST feelings, hence why I wrote it AFTER, pre-jugement would have happened before , this is after.

Pre = before

Post = after

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

[lisamariewillbe 1]

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And he will be again. Accusing him of such things gets you a lot of money, so people have an economic incentive to do that. A great many people in america are willing to do something slightly dishonest to make millions.

[christelsabine 1]

....trying to get MJ money, so there should be a ban on the parents to avoid this circus.

[Michele 1]

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Pre = before

Post = after

Thank you for clarifying that for me. I really appreciate it.

Considering you were not in the court room, and considering that his "child endangerment" event (in Germany, years ago if I recall correctly) was not brought up in the courtroom as far as I know, as well as his being "a freak" and various other pejorative terms that you so vociferously stated were not discussed at trial, I am going to remain with my opinion of your opinion.


*pejorative = belitting, demeaning
*vociferously = clamourous, strident

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[billvon 3,088]

>Thats why every actor and famous singer has been accused
>of the very same heinous crime MJ was.

A great many are accused of all sorts of nefarious things. The common thread is that they are all things that will make the claimant lots of money. Some names you may recognize:

Madonna
Leonardo DiCaprio
Steven Seagal
Sean Connery
Daryl Hannah
Don Johnson

Now, either all these people are guilty, or people just realize they have money and want to get some for themselves. Choose which one you really believe.

[lisamariewillbe 1]

Thats right you dont know what was or was not put in front of the jury, I am a parent, NEVER would I abuse the power of that position by placing my own child in danger, NEVER would I even put myself in a position to be accused of molesting MULTIBLE children.

Never= not ever - at no time - not in this life- not in the next life

how does my opinion belittle you? EVEN if you are a fan of jackass, how can my opinion of a man who sleeps with children matter to you?

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

[lisamariewillbe 1]

so one being guilty means all of them are??? 6 names..... wait 7 (including MJ) wow such a huge example of millionaires...

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

[Michele 1]

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how does my opinion belittle you? EVEN if you are a fan of jackass, how can my opinion of a man who sleeps with children matter to you?

Darlin', it doesn't. Not in the least. I just don't like to see such prejudices go unchallenged. And I'm not a fan of MJ. You are more than welcome to think as you like, pro-rating or not, as am I.

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MULTIBLE

Actually, I'm not sure what you mean. Can you give me a definition for this one?

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[billvon 3,088]

>so one being guilty means all of them are???

??? It means that people will do anything for money, including suing whoever has it for whatever they can get away with. Spend five minutes on Google and you will find hundreds of such examples.

[lisamariewillbe 1]

multible = something I get little of (ha ha im getting to annoyed at this whole verdict, gotta remember life is fun, life is fun, life is fun)

oops I mean more then one, as in he likes not only little boys but a variety...

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

[lisamariewillbe 1]

yea and for every case like this I bet theres several true accounts that arent reported. You dont have to be rich to be sued, however you do have to be rich to be guilty , and get off... no pun intended

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

[Kris 0]

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multible = something I get little of (ha ha im getting to annoyed at this whole verdict, gotta remember life is fun, life is fun, life is fun)

Umm.....I believe the word you're looking for is MULTIPLE!

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[lisamariewillbe 1]

u got the jest, im not running for grammer queen

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

[Frenchy68 0]

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u got the jest, im not running for grammer queen

Fooled me!

"For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return."

[lawrocket 3]

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what makes it cut and dry for me??? Easy, he is obviously fucked up in the head, he has stated on television that he does sleep with other peoples sons in his own bed without other adults around, he himself has proven he is a liar, he has proven to be mentually unstable, he puts his children in danger (The children he claims are his) he uses his money and his position as "the king of pop" to lure families into his ranch of perversian,

granted there were some issues on witness credibilty , and I think the mother of the latest accusation is a nut job and deserves to be right next to him in a cell in a prision being made someones bitch. HOWEVER its not like he has been accused of this ONCE or even TWICE, there are multible accusations. MULTIBLE

Want some legal advice I tell all of my clients? Here it goes:

"Courts don't care what happened. Courts care what you can prove. That's right, what you can prove. And when you can prove facts that show that all reasonable inferences of fact point to your version, you win. But, if you can't prove it you'll lose. And in the criminal side, if you cannot prove all reasonable inferences of fact for the prosecution, the defendant should walk free."

So, there is a reasonable doubt as to the truthfulness of the prosecution witnesses? If that's the case MJ should go free in a COURT OF LAW.

Let the court of PUBLIC OPINION fry him...

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[narcimund 0]

Forgive me because I know nothing at all about this case, but I had to respond:

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what makes it cut and dry for me??? Easy, he is obviously fucked up in the head

Not illegal.

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he has stated on television that he does sleep with other peoples sons in his own bed without other adults around

Also not illegal, although it's incredibly tacky to say ANYTHING on TV if you ask me.

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he himself has proven he is a liar

Also not illegal.

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he has proven to be mentually unstable

And again, not illegal.

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he puts his children in danger (The children he claims are his)

Possibly illegal, but not related to the crimes in question.

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he uses his money and his position as "the king of pop" to lure families into his ranch of perversian

Uh... I don't know one way or another about the "perversian" part but not only is this not illegal, influencing people with money and power is the reason for money and power.

All I can say is I'm glad defense lawyers get to disqualify prospective jury members. If anyone I know is ever prosecuted, I sure hope their jury doesn't vote "guilty" based on reasons like these.

First Class Citizen Twice Over

[swedishcelt 0]

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u got the jest, im not running for grammer queen

Fooled me!

[Michele 1]

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u got the jest, im not running for grammer queen

Apparently. However, you made a strong showing when you decided to educamate me dumb self....

BTW, and I just can't resist, it's gist. Jest is a joke. Which, of course, speaks for itself.

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[lisamariewillbe 1]

funny how spelling is your main focus when the conversation should be. Its funny how both of you sit there and mock someone because of a typo yet have nothing even remotely important to say besides



or "educamate me"

Bravo for stooping to a new low

Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this

[Michele 1]

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funny how spelling is your main focus when the conversation should be. Its funny how both of you sit there and mock someone because of a typo yet have nothing even remotely important to say besides




or "educamate me"

Bravo for stooping to a new low

LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!! Gasp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (deep breath for me.....) (can't contain it!) ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Bravo for stooping to a new low

Oh, there's quite a bit more stooping for me to do to get near "low." BTW, please refrain from pm-ing me again...it's not necessary, and I'd hate to add you to my (very limited) block list.

Ciels-
Michele

~Do Angels keep the dreams we seek
While our hearts lie bleeding?~

[Squeak 17]

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u got the jest, im not running for grammer queen

That would be Gist, Jest is to be funny, somthing which you are, but I think you meant somthing else.

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How's yours doing?

[narcimund 0]

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funny how spelling is your main focus when the conversation should be. Its funny how both of you sit there and mock someone because of a typo yet have nothing even remotely important to say besides

You know what's odd? You respond to people who (you say) aren't saying anything important but DON'T respond to people who address substantive comments.

We learn a lot both by what you do and also by what you don't do.

First Class Citizen Twice Over

[UntamedDOG 0]

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Probably the jury saw how much those kids parents wanted MJ money and realized that their testimony was greatly influenced by the prospect of making money.

MJ was found not guilty because the jury was smart enough to realize that the whole trial was nothing more than a shakedown for money. I applaud this jury for their efforts. Even if MJ was guilty of the dirty deed, the parents still have a responsibility to watch out for their children. The biggest problem that I have with this trial is that the parents clearly and knowingly allowed this abuse to happen. Had they been good parents, their kids would not have been molested. The jury saw this and I truly believe they made the best decision possible considering the circumstances. These parents are scum because they are pimping their own children.

With that being said, lets analyze the taboo of “Child Molestation”. Is being sexually molested by MJ as terrible as it is made out to be? These children got treated like royalty by a famous rock star. They got to stay at Neverland Ranch and lived a life only unattainable to .0001% of the population. I didn’t hear about anyone being bound and gagged. Nobody had cuts and bruises. Nobody had broken bones.

At the ripe age of 12, you have enough common sense to know what is happening. I feel that many of MJ’s “victims” were homosexual and were consenting to these sexual acts in an effort to explore their predilection. If two people are consenting to participate in a sexual act, I don’t feel that ANYONE is a victim. It is society that introduces guilt and taboo to the situation. In Roman times you will find that pedophilia was common place.

I find the hypocrisy in our society amazing. Hugh Hefner is an even greater sexual deviate then MJ. He lures young naïve women into public exploitation and society views him as a class act. In many ways, he is as sexually dysfunctional as MJ but in a different context. He takes advantage of poor young females who are past the legal age of 18 but are still considered kids. Some of these girls move in with him and are lured into drug abuse and casual sex at Hugh’s discretion. How is this situation any different that what MJ is doing?

If Janet Jackson were molesting underage boys, would we be going through all of this?

[Frenchy68 0]

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MJ was found not guilty because the jury was smart enough to realize that the whole trial was nothing more than a shakedown for money. I applaud this jury for their efforts. Even if MJ was guilty of the dirty deed, the parents still have a responsibility to watch out for their children. The biggest problem that I have with this trial is that the parents clearly and knowingly allowed this abuse to happen. Had they been good parents, their kids would not have been molested. The jury saw this and I truly believe they made the best decision possible considering the circumstances. These parents are scum because they are pimping their own children.

Agree on principle. However, I hope the jury made its decision not because of what they thought the parents were trying to do, but based on the lack of proof "beyond reasonable doubt". I hope.

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With that being said, lets analyze the taboo of “Child Molestation”. Is being sexually molested by MJ as terrible as it is made out to be? These children got treated like royalty by a famous rock star. They got to stay at Neverland Ranch and lived a life only unattainable to .0001% of the population. I didn’t hear about anyone being bound and gagged. Nobody had cuts and bruises. Nobody had broken bones.

I'll take broken bones over broken soul. Physical pain, somewhat, heals better and faster than emotional pain.

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In Roman times you will find that pedophilia was common place.

...and not too long ago, among royalties, heirs were married at the ripe age of 6. Those were the days.

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I find the hypocrisy in our society amazing. Hugh Hefner is an even greater sexual deviate then MJ. He lures young naïve women into public exploitation and society views him as a class act. In many ways, he is as sexually dysfunctional as MJ but in a different context. He takes advantage of poor young females who are past the legal age of 18 but are still considered kids. Some of these girls move in with him and are lured into drug abuse and casual sex at Hugh’s discretion. How is this situation any different that what MJ is doing?

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[sinker 0]

oh michele, dear friend, it is so funny to hear some others try to spar w/ you... lordie sakes alive... these posts have proven to be very entertaining.

love to ya from the whole famn damily in TN!

-the artist formerly known as sinker