Sen.Blutarsky 0 #1 June 4, 2005 ... would bring their fleet air arm out from the rain without an American Express Card ... French Aircraft Stay Overnight in N.J. POMONA, N.J. (AP) June 3, 2005 — Nine French fighter jets and a radar plane stayed overnight at Atlantic City International Airport after one suffered a mechanical problem and bad weather prevented them from returning to their aircraft carrier off the Virginia coast, authorities said Friday. The U.S. State Department was contacted by French officials after one of the pilots tried to buy fuel Thursday and couldn't because he didn't have the available funds on his credit card, Philadelphia television station WPVI-TV reported. "One reported a mechanical problem, so the whole fleet came in," said Holly Baker, an FAA spokeswoman whose office is at the airport. The planes, scheduled to perform Saturday at an air show at McGuire Air Force Base in Burlington County, were conducting military exercises with the U.S. Navy and landed at about 3:45 p.m., Baker said. The 10 planes stayed at the airport because of bad weather, she said. She said two of the pilots, accompanied by FAA security, stayed with the planes overnight. She could not confirm the television report about the failed gasoline purchase. Atlantic City International Airport officials did not immediately respond to inquiries Friday. A man who answered the telephone at its airport operations desk said he could not release information. (Copyright 2005 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.) Last Updated: Jun 3, 2005 http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/print_6305-frenchjets.html OMG Comedy Central couldn't make this stuff up! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #2 June 4, 2005 DAMN! And I thought getting turned down for a car loan was bad!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #3 June 4, 2005 QuoteShe could not confirm the television report about the failed gasoline purchase. Gasoline? Are the French still flying radials? FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #4 June 4, 2005 Hey.....Bluto........ Quit picking on the French......... So what if they cant shoot a carrier landing in bad weather like our guys can! They excel at other important things like foie gras,cheeses,wines,etc.Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 June 6, 2005 QuoteQuit picking on the French... They excel at other important things like foie gras,cheeses,wines,etc. Hey, they actually won a "war" once: against Mexico, in 1838, called the "Pastry War". And they even held it for a little while... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sen.Blutarsky 0 #6 June 6, 2005 QuoteQuit picking on the French ... American naval aviators would have _made_ their carrier traps under similar circumstances and they routinely prove this. Moreover American CVNs aren't fin stabilized and don't have a roll compensating system to make their traps safer while the French _have_ implemented these systems in the CDG. The French even promote via various military sounding boards how this gives their carrier design a distinct edge over the older CVN designs of their American cousins, consider G. Hardier, C. Lambert, and S. Kummer. The cogite system of the charles de gaulle aircraft carrier : an innovating heel compensation device. In 12th Ship Control systems Symposium, La Hague (Hollande), 19 - 21 October 1999. To improve the seakeeping performances of the french nuclear aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, with respect to its predecessors Clémenceau and Foch, DCN has developed a platform motion control system, called SATRAP, which reduces the ship motions while ensuring navigation capability. This system involves a centralized computer which controls three subsystems: two pairs of stabilizing fins, a set of rudders and a moving-mass system (athwart ship) for heel compensation, the Cogite system. Originally conceived for situations where the stabilizing fins would be otherwise saturated (steady heel from wind or heavy weights displacements), Cogite has evolved into a system which also improves the operational capability of the ship by limiting the heel during sharp turns, permitting non-stop handling and preparation of aircrafts. This paper presents the results of the studies which led to the development of a performing mode of operation for SATRAP, where the helmsman has full control of the rudders while the fins and Cogite system automatically reduce the ship motions. From the operational requirements of an aircraft carrier, it shows how the design stage has ended in defining this innovating heel compensation device, and why the control laws structure was mostly conditioned by the actuators peculiarities and desired performances. The following points are discussed in this paper: operational requirements in terms of performances, SATRAP system architecture and principles chosen for the control laws (task allocation for the actuators, feedforward-feedback controllers). Results obtained during the first sea tests, aboard the Charles de Gaulle, are given to illustrate the system performances. I really do try to avoid bashing the French, after all I do business with them and I travel to France, but sometimes ya jest can't help it. Besides, the whole 'incident' got hushed-up by Washington so quickly -- I guess the French rooster won't end up on the farmer's table this time. Blutarsky 2008. No Prisoners! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #7 June 7, 2005 QuoteHey, they actually won a "war" once: against Mexico, in 1838, called the "Pastry War". And they even held it for a little while... They won another war in 1783, I believe. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
