kallend 2,147 #26 May 31, 2005 "I've had eighteen straight whiskies, I think that's the record . . ." ~~ last words of Dylan Thomas, poet, d. 1953... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #27 May 31, 2005 Quote Actually it wouldn't take that much. For a 190 pound male a one liter bottle of vodka or Rum will do it. Bruno, I have done 1L of vodka more than once and I'm still around What's a point of arguing over alcohol? Lets talk about swooping small canopies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #28 May 31, 2005 Quoteit's called hyponatremia and yes it can happen....more often than you think. i have run competitively my entire life and have been at a race where it happened.....'02 boston marathon. a former member of my college triathlon club died from it in a marathon in 1991. It's become a common event at every marathon now, esp among the "charity runners" who were taught to drink water at every station. Given 6 hours of drinking, you can put the body in a pretty bad state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flifree 0 #29 May 31, 2005 that is exactly who is at risk....the longer you are out there the more ya slug. if memory serves the catalyst that threw the boston marathoner into cardiac arrest was an i.v. drip. she looked sick and ems figured she was dehydrated....voila. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fallingchip 0 #30 June 1, 2005 Quote Actually it wouldn't take that much. For a 190 pound male a one liter bottle of vodka or Rum will do it. How many times have you heard people bragging that they were able to drink an entire bottle of hard liquor. Actually if you research that matter you will find that most of the time these people are lying as it would actually have put them at above a .6 which is never surviveable. How much time are you saying you have to drink this liter in order to die? Ethyl Alcohol (type of alcohol in alcoholic beverages) is constantly being eliminated from the body in three ways. 1) Metabolism 2) Excretion 3) Evaporation The "average" rate of ethanol oxidation for the general non-alcoholic is 0.0165 per hour. For example; a person with an alcohol concentration of 0.08 at a given hour would decrease to about 0.06 one hour later(without further consumption). The example you gave is one liter will elevate a persons alcohol concentration above 0.6. Now before I get to much further, are you saying that a man or woman is drinking this liter. It make a difference. Males have a water content of 58% and women at 65%. Women absorb and eliminate alcohol faster than men(when comparing non-alcoholics) Also what proof is the alcohol. The average proof for spirtious liquor "hard liquor" is 80 proof which is 40% alcohol. Back to your example: The alcohol concentration of 0.6. and your body is eliminating the alcohol at a average rate of 0.15 per hour (the more alcohol in your body the faster it's being eliminated). So even if you were to down the bottle your alcohol concentration will not automatically be 0.6. The alcohol has to absorb into you blood, thats a thirty minute average on a empty stomach and alcohol slowly absorbs into your system just like food or water. Have you ever pissed yellow, down a bottle of water, pissed again within thirty minutes...your piss is still yellow. While the alcohol is being slowly absorbed your body is constantly eliminating it as well. The example you have given based on the North Carolina Department of Heath and Human Services (NCDHHS) states that a person with a BAC of 0.6 will be at 0.45 within the first hour. Now to the world of reality: The chances of a non-alcoholic downing a liter of alcohol is not likely due to not being able to keep it down. But even if they succeed they won't die not by DRINKING it. If they inject themselves with that amount they might, sorry but I can't find those formulas. A non-alcoholic can and if in good health will survive with a BAC of 0.45. They will wish they were dead and may suffer alcohol poisoning, but will live. Keep in mind that alcohol poisoning at light to moderate levels will only cause unconsciousness until the body eliminates that alcohol. Most cases of subjects dying while suffering from alcohol poisoning actually die because they passed out on their back, vomited and choked to death. Now the formulas and stats given by the NCDHHS are based on non-alcoholics. I can only give you examples of what I have personally seen with my own two eyes. I hate admitting to some of you that I am a cop. It seems to draw immature statements, but all I can say is fuck it, it's government work. On two occasions I witnessed subjects (obvious alcoholics) with BAC of #1) 0.52 and 0.54. Also, I witnessed a fifteen year old (to young to be an alcoholic) with a BAC of .048. None of these subject died and by their own admission consumed more than a liter.______________________________________________ "A radical man is a man with both feet firmly planted in the air." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skymedic 0 #31 June 1, 2005 Quote lso, I witnessed a fifteen year old (to young to be an alcoholic) with a BAC of .048. I have a feeling you were meaning .48 not .048...cause that's just not very high. Marc otherwise known as Mr.Fallinwoman.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fallingchip 0 #32 June 1, 2005 QuoteQuote lso, I witnessed a fifteen year old (to young to be an alcoholic) with a BAC of .048. I have a feeling you were meaning .48 not .048...cause that's just not very high. Opps...yep I ment 0.48______________________________________________ "A radical man is a man with both feet firmly planted in the air." -Franklin Delano Roosevelt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
