pajarito 0 #26 May 23, 2005 QuoteIt is one of the problems with free speech that we willingly accept loudmouth assholes so that those that are able to speak constructively can do so without fear. Not at all. I'll fight for that person's right to display that asshole confrontational sticker on his truck. I'll also fight for and have been to war to protect that other asshole's right to stand on the side of the road and display his/her "hate america" or "hate the troops" posters on a stick. I don't see that as a problem with free speech that we allow that. I see it as what makes us great that we do allow it without fear. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #27 May 23, 2005 I would think the same thing if he were flying a rainbow flag with the same sign - the boy has issues.Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #28 May 23, 2005 QuoteI don't see that as a problem with free speech that we allow that. I see it as what makes us great that we do allow it without fear. Once again, words of wisdom. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #29 May 23, 2005 QuoteHow would you later follow the recommended method for retiring them when they were worn? Section 8k of the Flag Code states, "The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning." Yes, but that's a respectful retiring of a flag, have you ever attended a flag retirement? If not you should call up your local American Legion and ask if you can attend when they have one the next Flag Day.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craichead 0 #30 May 23, 2005 QuoteYes, but that's a respectful retiring of a flag, have you ever attended a flag retirement? If not you should call up your local American Legion and ask if you can attend when they have one the next Flag Day. I think labrys already knows that. The question is how would you respectfully retire a fireproof flag if it doesn't catch fire or burn?? _Pm__ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #31 May 23, 2005 Things may be fire resistant but very little is actually fire proof. Further, even if there were fire proof flags, my guess is that the same folks that would want to burn them wouldn't be the ones that would buy them. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craichead 0 #32 May 23, 2005 QuoteThings may be fire resistant but very little is actually fire proof. Further, even if there were fire proof flags, my guess is that the same folks that would want to burn them wouldn't be the ones that would buy them. LOL, I know...but rhino said he would like to see someone develop a fire proof flag. If he got his wish, then how would you retire it respectfully according to the flag code? _Pm__ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #33 May 23, 2005 QuoteI think labrys already knows that. The question is how would you respectfully retire a fireproof flag if it doesn't catch fire or burn?? Ok, I'm gonna try again since its the internet and I'm sure my meaning was lost in canadian/american translation. My point was that flag burning is appropiate and respectful, if done during a flag retirement ceremony and that beyond that the folks that would burn a flag wouldn't care if a fire "proof" flag was invented. They would still find a disrepectful way to tarnish a flag. I was also posting in an attempt to suppliment the Flag Code information that was posted, maybe someone will read that and actually take an intrest, calling up their local American Legion and attending a flag retirement ceremoney on Flag Day.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craichead 0 #34 May 23, 2005 QuoteOk, I'm gonna try again since its the internet and I'm sure my meaning was lost in canadian/american translation. Andy's a bad influence, isn't he? QuoteMy point was that flag burning is appropiate and respectful, if done during a flag retirement ceremony and that beyond that the folks that would burn a flag wouldn't care if a fire "proof" flag was invented. They would still find a disrepectful way to tarnish a flag. Yes, I realize that, and I agree that they would find another way to tarnish the flag. But the question is logistical (and quite cheeky) in its nature. HOW would you burn a fireproof flag (if such a thing existed) for retirement? It would be a little harder to do if it's fireproof, right? Somehow an acid bath to make it disintegrate into nothing or a vat of fireproof polymer goo is not quite as noble. QuoteI was also posting in an attempt to suppliment the Flag Code information that was posted, maybe someone will read that and actually take an intrest, calling up their local American Legion and attending a flag retirement ceremoney on Flag Day. Thank you for posting the info. I actually didn't know who conducted flag retirement ceremonies and think it's pretty cool that you can attend one. _Pm__ "Scared of love, love and aeroplanes...falling out, I said takes no brains." -- Andy Partridge (XTC) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #35 May 24, 2005 QuoteYou know what...most people who bitch don't have a need to STFU. Maybe YOU have a need for them to shut up, but that's YOUR problem, not theirs. Tampons.. Isle 5... Check please... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #36 May 24, 2005 QuoteTampons.. Isle 5... Check please... Dude, you use tampons? That's hot. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #37 May 24, 2005 QuoteDude, you use tampons? That's hot.Unimpressed lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #38 May 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteYou know what...most people who bitch don't have a need to STFU. Maybe YOU have a need for them to shut up, but that's YOUR problem, not theirs. Tampons.. Isle 5... Check please... Not on the rag this week. Just pointing out the obvious. Doesn't mean that I need a tampon. It's a shame that every time a person points out flaws in the way you think and behave that you have a need to lash out with some sort of comment that has no relation to the issue being discussed, but is only intended to put a person in his or her place. Only demonstrates, further, the flaws in your thinking and behavior. Of course I'll expect another insult of one sort or another, but that won't change the fact that you're often, though you'll be the last to admit it, wrong. Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antifnsocial 0 #39 May 24, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou know what...most people who bitch don't have a need to STFU. Maybe YOU have a need for them to shut up, but that's YOUR problem, not theirs. Tampons.. Isle 5... Check please... Not on the rag this week. Just pointing out the obvious. Doesn't mean that I need a tampon. It's a shame that every time a person points out flaws in the way you think and behave that you have a need to lash out with some sort of comment that has no relation to the issue being discussed, but is only intended to put a person in his or her place. Only demonstrates, further, the flaws in your thinking and behavior. Of course I'll expect another insult of one sort or another, but that won't change the fact that you're often, though you'll be the last to admit it, wrong. Peace~ linzWhat Lindsey said and to add to it. What do we tell you to go buy when we don't agree with what you say? Please feel free to reply to my posts and pm's, but only if you're smart enough to understand what they really mean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #40 May 24, 2005 QuoteIt is an in your face thing.. My license plate use to say "Love it or Leave it" with an American Flag in the background. I have no problem with someone bitching about the US. As long as they are active in fixing what they bitch about. Otherwise they just need to STFU.. Rhino Even if we consider "fixing" it to be removing the ultra right neo-McCarthyite "patriots" that are destroying our beautiful nation??? jen----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelel01 1 #41 May 24, 2005 What Lindsey and Antifnsocial said. And the tampon comment was WAY out of line. I think someone needs to STFU and "quit bitchin", and it's not Lindsey, or me, or . . . well, I think we all know who it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #42 May 24, 2005 QuoteSo what do you take pride in? i take pride in the things i do, the way i was raised and, in the way i behave in the face of adversity. not in the circumstances of my birth... taking pride in the simple fact that you were born american is as silly as taking pride in the fact that you happen to be male... some days i'm actually disgusted with the both of those simple facts because of the way americans and males behave.....____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #43 May 24, 2005 Quotetaking pride in the fact that you happen to be male... Rhino's a male? What is he doing buying tampons then, if he's...Never mind. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #44 May 24, 2005 QuoteQuotetaking pride in the fact that you happen to be male... Rhino's a male? What is he doing buying tampons then, if he's...Never mind. Umm...obviously you've never had a stiletto heel shoved up your ass....lol Peace~ linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #45 May 24, 2005 QuoteThe question is how would you respectfully retire a fireproof flag if it doesn't catch fire or burn?? Thanks for stepping in... Yes, You're right. I've always wondered why people debate whether burning a flag should be against the law when in some cases its recommended.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #46 May 24, 2005 He needs it..lol Hey, i am from england. I have an American flag outside my house. Its there because i am happy to be in this country great people.etc etc. Proudly showing a flag i have nothing wrong with. What i personally saw in that pic is someone looking for trouble or with a sense of humor. Either way, it can piss people off..lol As for personally insulting people dude who do not agree with your opinions, you may want to use intelligence!! I have read some of your posts and you seem quite intelligent sometimes. As for the tampon comment and the attack on kele, reminded me of my 14 yr old nephew..Anyway, when you americans going to learn RUGBY???...lolhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #47 May 24, 2005 Quote have you ever attended a flag retirement Better yet, I've participated in several, which is what prompted me to point out that the idea of making flags "fireproof" isn't a good idea.Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith 0 #48 May 24, 2005 I suspect Rhino has been told to go stand in the corner for his choice of retort.Keith Don't Fuck with me Keith - J. Mandeville Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #49 May 24, 2005 lol he just pushes what he believes in which is great. My wife is the same. She is always on hear discussing something political. Its when you have to insult people to get your message across i have a problem withhttp://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #50 May 24, 2005 Quotehe just pushes what he believes in which is great. My wife is the same. She is always on hear discussing something political. Its when you have to insult people to get your message across i have a problem with I didn't insult anyone? lol I just pointed out where the tampons were? sheesh people!! I have no problem with in your face Patriotism. I wish more people would do it. Nothing is wrong with the statement made on that bumper sticker and I whole heartedly agree with it. You don't have to like the fact that I agree. I just do. That's me :) Many more people agree as well they just don't have the balls to say it in this here forum. Because they loose sleep at night over what people think of them. I don't. So I proudly agree. If you think I am immature because of that it's o.k.. I don't mind.. Puppet strings every where... Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
