Feeblemind 1 #1 May 21, 2005 Just wonder what everyone's thoughts are. I recently saw an interview with Donald Trump regarding the Freedom Tower designs. He said it was the biggest hunk of crap architecture he had ever seen. Being a fire fighter I would personally like to see the towers back the way they were. Phil Fire Safety Tip: Don't fry bacon while naked Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #2 May 21, 2005 I too; would like to see the towers put back the way they were.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #3 May 21, 2005 QuoteI would personally like to see the towers back the way they were. Me too, and like Mr. Trump I'd like to see them just a few feet taller. - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #4 May 21, 2005 QuoteI too; would like to see the towers put back the way they were. Me too. The WTC was NYC's signature skyscraper. It should be rebuilt, not only to prove our resilience, but also to slap Al Qaida in the face. I want Osama to see he can't beat the USA!"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallRate 0 #5 May 21, 2005 QuoteHe said it was the biggest hunk of crap architecture he had ever seen. I could be wrong, but taking seriously an opinion on aesthetics from Donald Trump seems a bit humorous, when you take into account his hair. FallRate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #6 May 21, 2005 QuoteI could be wrong, but taking seriously an opinion on aesthetics from Donald Trump seems a bit humorous, when you take into account the hair he chooses to buy. There, fixed it for ya. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #7 May 21, 2005 QuoteMe too. The WTC was NYC's signature skyscraper. It should be rebuilt, not only to prove our resilience, but also to slap Al Qaida in the face. I want Osama to see he can't beat the USA! i'm not into terrorism, but that is a silly coment. was japan rebuilding hiroshima and nagasaki a slap in the face for the u.s.? i don't think so."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #8 May 21, 2005 >It should be rebuilt, not only to prove our resilience, but also to slap >Al Qaida in the face. I want Osama to see he can't beat the USA! The best way to prove that the US can withstand terrorist attacks is to catch Osama, then just build whatever the hell we want without considering what Al Qaeda will think of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #9 May 22, 2005 QuoteQuote i'm not into terrorism, but that is a silly coment. was japan rebuilding hiroshima and nagasaki a slap in the face for the u.s.? i don't think so. That's a totally different thing. Nuking those cities was the best idea we had of ending the war. We helped them rebuild after the war was over. Al Qaida's nothing but a bunch of goddamn cowards hiding behind the Koran trying to justify their bombings and attacks. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #10 May 22, 2005 Quote.Al Qaida's nothing but a bunch of goddamn cowards hiding behind the Koran trying to justify their bombings and attacks. not unlike the G.W. administration hiding behind lies to justify their selfish attacks. there are always two sides to a story. i do not support al qaida in any way but their doings were not cowardly at all if they were cowards they wouldn't have been capable of the evil things they did. they are angry for some reason they want this reason known? the u.s. have been less than saints to the rest of the world and have destroyed a multitude of happy lives for the sake of your unecinomical economy. u.s. citizens arent the only ones in the world that deserve freedom but u.s. freedom comes at a cost to the freedom of others it seems."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #11 May 22, 2005 Quote.Al Qaida's nothing but a bunch of goddamn cowards hiding behind the Koran trying to justify their bombings and attacks. not unlike the G.W. administration hiding behind lies to justify their selfish attacks. there are always two sides to a story. i do not support al qaida in any way but their doings were not cowardly at all if they were cowards they wouldn't have been capable of the evil things they did. they are angry for some reason they want this reason known? the u.s. have been less than saints to the rest of the world and have destroyed a multitude of happy lives for the sake of your unecinomical economy. u.s. citizens arent the only ones in the world that deserve freedom but u.s. freedom comes at a cost to the freedom of others it seems."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #12 May 22, 2005 No matter how many times you say it, it's still bullshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #13 May 23, 2005 QuoteNo matter how many times you say it, it's still bullshit. Oh come on John, you're forgetting the utopia these poor misunderstood heroes created in Afghanistan. All that freedom the Taliban and Al Qaida lavished on their people over there. That's what Arabs really want and it's our fault that the butchers of 9-11 aren't able to bestow their wise leadership upon Pan-Arabia. We're oppressing them. Heck all those car bombs blowing worshipers apart outside mosques are our fault. We should just leave the country in the capable hands of these misunderstood heroes of the suppressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #14 May 23, 2005 Build 4 towers to send them a great big "fuck you". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,488 #15 May 23, 2005 You mean something like this? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #16 May 23, 2005 Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #17 May 23, 2005 Yes they would be something of a magnet... but so were the old ones. At the end of the day it's a capitolist society - if the workforce were too nervous to work there, pay would go up till they weren't. I'd expect to see a windfall for all those little companies selling idiot proof escape parachutes though... and I might just keep an old rig in the bottom draw of the desk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #18 May 23, 2005 Quote Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question Let's say you were on the top floor, would you take your rig to work? Serious question. Wasn't Donald Trump muting some kind of a BASE rig at some point? Ah yes a quick search produces this: http://www.hypocrites.com/article1247.html Shop here and take your pick: http://www.saferamerica.com/saProducts.asp?categoryID=15 http://www.executivechute.com/ http://www.evacuchute.com/ http://www.para-sport.com/hope/item_11.htm And good luck: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=539 P.S. article's a bit harsh I think, it's Hobson's choice or was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #19 May 23, 2005 Let's say you were on the top floor, would you take your rig to work? Serious question. Serious answer is: I try my best to avoid high buildings, skyscrapers, as I cannot stand it. And the idea to work in a new tower built on Ground Zero would not make it much easier. But to answer your question: If I HAVE to be on top floor, why not with my rig? Yes, I would if I need to work there. This area should remain like it is now, forever being a memorial place. Have been there last autumn. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #20 May 23, 2005 QuoteYes they would be something of a magnet You think the "freedom tower" would not be? I say rebuild them bigger than before."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #21 May 23, 2005 > Build 4 towers to send them a great big "fuck you". Again, as long as we keep reacting to the terrorists, they will have achieved their objective. We should build whatever the hell we want, and not spare a thought for what terrorists think of it. Why continue to respond to them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aerohaga 0 #22 May 23, 2005 QuoteYou mean something like this? That is the best design I've see yet!For my part, I know nothing with any certainty, But the sight of the stars makes me dream. -Vincent Van Gogh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #23 May 23, 2005 Quote Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question BIGUN, love your design! Well, they changed their security following the first bombing where the terrorists drove a bomb-laden truck into the garage under one tower. I'm pretty certain they couldn't repeat the same feat. Nobody's been able to hijack another airliner since 9/11 and fly them into objects on the ground in the USA, because of the increased security, as well as changes in what security allows onboard, as well as putting locks on cockpit doors and putting armed marshals on most flights. I can't say for sure that we won't see attacks in the same manners in the future, so you never know, but I'll take my chances and work wherever I need to."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,488 #24 May 23, 2005 QuoteBIGUN, love your design! Just for the record... not my design. This was floating around the Internet when all the replacement proposals were being considered. I thought it cute, but am not too far off BillVon's position. I think the Twin Towers should be the way they were, but for a different reason. It could serve as a memorial, but it would mean that "they" did not change the landscape of America. To me, a different landscape would serve as a constant reminder of their success. The original landscape would serve as a reminder to us that we remain strong; no matter what adversity we face.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #25 May 23, 2005 The best memorial would be to restore the NY skyline roughly the way it was. Not necessarily exact replicas; maybe they could build them stronger this time. Those buildings were huge. If you want a memorial to those that died, you could install an entire museum dedicated to that purpose on the ground floor. There would be plenty of room. But we should restore the NY skyline to what it was. I definitely DO NOT think we should just leave a big park there. The idea should be that it is America that will outlast this event, not the terrorists' actions .. 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billvon 3,120 #8 May 21, 2005 >It should be rebuilt, not only to prove our resilience, but also to slap >Al Qaida in the face. I want Osama to see he can't beat the USA! The best way to prove that the US can withstand terrorist attacks is to catch Osama, then just build whatever the hell we want without considering what Al Qaeda will think of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #9 May 22, 2005 QuoteQuote i'm not into terrorism, but that is a silly coment. was japan rebuilding hiroshima and nagasaki a slap in the face for the u.s.? i don't think so. That's a totally different thing. Nuking those cities was the best idea we had of ending the war. We helped them rebuild after the war was over. Al Qaida's nothing but a bunch of goddamn cowards hiding behind the Koran trying to justify their bombings and attacks. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #10 May 22, 2005 Quote.Al Qaida's nothing but a bunch of goddamn cowards hiding behind the Koran trying to justify their bombings and attacks. not unlike the G.W. administration hiding behind lies to justify their selfish attacks. there are always two sides to a story. i do not support al qaida in any way but their doings were not cowardly at all if they were cowards they wouldn't have been capable of the evil things they did. they are angry for some reason they want this reason known? the u.s. have been less than saints to the rest of the world and have destroyed a multitude of happy lives for the sake of your unecinomical economy. u.s. citizens arent the only ones in the world that deserve freedom but u.s. freedom comes at a cost to the freedom of others it seems."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #11 May 22, 2005 Quote.Al Qaida's nothing but a bunch of goddamn cowards hiding behind the Koran trying to justify their bombings and attacks. not unlike the G.W. administration hiding behind lies to justify their selfish attacks. there are always two sides to a story. i do not support al qaida in any way but their doings were not cowardly at all if they were cowards they wouldn't have been capable of the evil things they did. they are angry for some reason they want this reason known? the u.s. have been less than saints to the rest of the world and have destroyed a multitude of happy lives for the sake of your unecinomical economy. u.s. citizens arent the only ones in the world that deserve freedom but u.s. freedom comes at a cost to the freedom of others it seems."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #12 May 22, 2005 No matter how many times you say it, it's still bullshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #13 May 23, 2005 QuoteNo matter how many times you say it, it's still bullshit. Oh come on John, you're forgetting the utopia these poor misunderstood heroes created in Afghanistan. All that freedom the Taliban and Al Qaida lavished on their people over there. That's what Arabs really want and it's our fault that the butchers of 9-11 aren't able to bestow their wise leadership upon Pan-Arabia. We're oppressing them. Heck all those car bombs blowing worshipers apart outside mosques are our fault. We should just leave the country in the capable hands of these misunderstood heroes of the suppressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #14 May 23, 2005 Build 4 towers to send them a great big "fuck you". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,488 #15 May 23, 2005 You mean something like this? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #16 May 23, 2005 Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #17 May 23, 2005 Yes they would be something of a magnet... but so were the old ones. At the end of the day it's a capitolist society - if the workforce were too nervous to work there, pay would go up till they weren't. I'd expect to see a windfall for all those little companies selling idiot proof escape parachutes though... and I might just keep an old rig in the bottom draw of the desk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #18 May 23, 2005 Quote Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question Let's say you were on the top floor, would you take your rig to work? Serious question. Wasn't Donald Trump muting some kind of a BASE rig at some point? Ah yes a quick search produces this: http://www.hypocrites.com/article1247.html Shop here and take your pick: http://www.saferamerica.com/saProducts.asp?categoryID=15 http://www.executivechute.com/ http://www.evacuchute.com/ http://www.para-sport.com/hope/item_11.htm And good luck: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=539 P.S. article's a bit harsh I think, it's Hobson's choice or was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #19 May 23, 2005 Let's say you were on the top floor, would you take your rig to work? Serious question. Serious answer is: I try my best to avoid high buildings, skyscrapers, as I cannot stand it. And the idea to work in a new tower built on Ground Zero would not make it much easier. But to answer your question: If I HAVE to be on top floor, why not with my rig? Yes, I would if I need to work there. This area should remain like it is now, forever being a memorial place. Have been there last autumn. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #20 May 23, 2005 QuoteYes they would be something of a magnet You think the "freedom tower" would not be? I say rebuild them bigger than before."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #21 May 23, 2005 > Build 4 towers to send them a great big "fuck you". Again, as long as we keep reacting to the terrorists, they will have achieved their objective. We should build whatever the hell we want, and not spare a thought for what terrorists think of it. Why continue to respond to them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aerohaga 0 #22 May 23, 2005 QuoteYou mean something like this? That is the best design I've see yet!For my part, I know nothing with any certainty, But the sight of the stars makes me dream. -Vincent Van Gogh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #23 May 23, 2005 Quote Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question BIGUN, love your design! Well, they changed their security following the first bombing where the terrorists drove a bomb-laden truck into the garage under one tower. I'm pretty certain they couldn't repeat the same feat. Nobody's been able to hijack another airliner since 9/11 and fly them into objects on the ground in the USA, because of the increased security, as well as changes in what security allows onboard, as well as putting locks on cockpit doors and putting armed marshals on most flights. I can't say for sure that we won't see attacks in the same manners in the future, so you never know, but I'll take my chances and work wherever I need to."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,488 #24 May 23, 2005 QuoteBIGUN, love your design! Just for the record... not my design. This was floating around the Internet when all the replacement proposals were being considered. I thought it cute, but am not too far off BillVon's position. I think the Twin Towers should be the way they were, but for a different reason. It could serve as a memorial, but it would mean that "they" did not change the landscape of America. To me, a different landscape would serve as a constant reminder of their success. The original landscape would serve as a reminder to us that we remain strong; no matter what adversity we face.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #25 May 23, 2005 The best memorial would be to restore the NY skyline roughly the way it was. Not necessarily exact replicas; maybe they could build them stronger this time. Those buildings were huge. If you want a memorial to those that died, you could install an entire museum dedicated to that purpose on the ground floor. There would be plenty of room. But we should restore the NY skyline to what it was. I definitely DO NOT think we should just leave a big park there. The idea should be that it is America that will outlast this event, not the terrorists' actions .. 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rhys 0 #10 May 22, 2005 Quote.Al Qaida's nothing but a bunch of goddamn cowards hiding behind the Koran trying to justify their bombings and attacks. not unlike the G.W. administration hiding behind lies to justify their selfish attacks. there are always two sides to a story. i do not support al qaida in any way but their doings were not cowardly at all if they were cowards they wouldn't have been capable of the evil things they did. they are angry for some reason they want this reason known? the u.s. have been less than saints to the rest of the world and have destroyed a multitude of happy lives for the sake of your unecinomical economy. u.s. citizens arent the only ones in the world that deserve freedom but u.s. freedom comes at a cost to the freedom of others it seems."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhys 0 #11 May 22, 2005 Quote.Al Qaida's nothing but a bunch of goddamn cowards hiding behind the Koran trying to justify their bombings and attacks. not unlike the G.W. administration hiding behind lies to justify their selfish attacks. there are always two sides to a story. i do not support al qaida in any way but their doings were not cowardly at all if they were cowards they wouldn't have been capable of the evil things they did. they are angry for some reason they want this reason known? the u.s. have been less than saints to the rest of the world and have destroyed a multitude of happy lives for the sake of your unecinomical economy. u.s. citizens arent the only ones in the world that deserve freedom but u.s. freedom comes at a cost to the freedom of others it seems."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #12 May 22, 2005 No matter how many times you say it, it's still bullshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #13 May 23, 2005 QuoteNo matter how many times you say it, it's still bullshit. Oh come on John, you're forgetting the utopia these poor misunderstood heroes created in Afghanistan. All that freedom the Taliban and Al Qaida lavished on their people over there. That's what Arabs really want and it's our fault that the butchers of 9-11 aren't able to bestow their wise leadership upon Pan-Arabia. We're oppressing them. Heck all those car bombs blowing worshipers apart outside mosques are our fault. We should just leave the country in the capable hands of these misunderstood heroes of the suppressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #14 May 23, 2005 Build 4 towers to send them a great big "fuck you". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,488 #15 May 23, 2005 You mean something like this? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #16 May 23, 2005 Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #17 May 23, 2005 Yes they would be something of a magnet... but so were the old ones. At the end of the day it's a capitolist society - if the workforce were too nervous to work there, pay would go up till they weren't. I'd expect to see a windfall for all those little companies selling idiot proof escape parachutes though... and I might just keep an old rig in the bottom draw of the desk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #18 May 23, 2005 Quote Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question Let's say you were on the top floor, would you take your rig to work? Serious question. Wasn't Donald Trump muting some kind of a BASE rig at some point? Ah yes a quick search produces this: http://www.hypocrites.com/article1247.html Shop here and take your pick: http://www.saferamerica.com/saProducts.asp?categoryID=15 http://www.executivechute.com/ http://www.evacuchute.com/ http://www.para-sport.com/hope/item_11.htm And good luck: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=539 P.S. article's a bit harsh I think, it's Hobson's choice or was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #19 May 23, 2005 Let's say you were on the top floor, would you take your rig to work? Serious question. Serious answer is: I try my best to avoid high buildings, skyscrapers, as I cannot stand it. And the idea to work in a new tower built on Ground Zero would not make it much easier. But to answer your question: If I HAVE to be on top floor, why not with my rig? Yes, I would if I need to work there. This area should remain like it is now, forever being a memorial place. Have been there last autumn. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #20 May 23, 2005 QuoteYes they would be something of a magnet You think the "freedom tower" would not be? I say rebuild them bigger than before."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,120 #21 May 23, 2005 > Build 4 towers to send them a great big "fuck you". Again, as long as we keep reacting to the terrorists, they will have achieved their objective. We should build whatever the hell we want, and not spare a thought for what terrorists think of it. Why continue to respond to them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites aerohaga 0 #22 May 23, 2005 QuoteYou mean something like this? That is the best design I've see yet!For my part, I know nothing with any certainty, But the sight of the stars makes me dream. -Vincent Van Gogh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 35 #23 May 23, 2005 Quote Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question BIGUN, love your design! Well, they changed their security following the first bombing where the terrorists drove a bomb-laden truck into the garage under one tower. I'm pretty certain they couldn't repeat the same feat. Nobody's been able to hijack another airliner since 9/11 and fly them into objects on the ground in the USA, because of the increased security, as well as changes in what security allows onboard, as well as putting locks on cockpit doors and putting armed marshals on most flights. I can't say for sure that we won't see attacks in the same manners in the future, so you never know, but I'll take my chances and work wherever I need to."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,488 #24 May 23, 2005 QuoteBIGUN, love your design! Just for the record... not my design. This was floating around the Internet when all the replacement proposals were being considered. I thought it cute, but am not too far off BillVon's position. I think the Twin Towers should be the way they were, but for a different reason. It could serve as a memorial, but it would mean that "they" did not change the landscape of America. To me, a different landscape would serve as a constant reminder of their success. The original landscape would serve as a reminder to us that we remain strong; no matter what adversity we face.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SpeedRacer 1 #25 May 23, 2005 The best memorial would be to restore the NY skyline roughly the way it was. Not necessarily exact replicas; maybe they could build them stronger this time. Those buildings were huge. If you want a memorial to those that died, you could install an entire museum dedicated to that purpose on the ground floor. There would be plenty of room. But we should restore the NY skyline to what it was. I definitely DO NOT think we should just leave a big park there. The idea should be that it is America that will outlast this event, not the terrorists' actions .. 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rhys 0 #11 May 22, 2005 Quote.Al Qaida's nothing but a bunch of goddamn cowards hiding behind the Koran trying to justify their bombings and attacks. not unlike the G.W. administration hiding behind lies to justify their selfish attacks. there are always two sides to a story. i do not support al qaida in any way but their doings were not cowardly at all if they were cowards they wouldn't have been capable of the evil things they did. they are angry for some reason they want this reason known? the u.s. have been less than saints to the rest of the world and have destroyed a multitude of happy lives for the sake of your unecinomical economy. u.s. citizens arent the only ones in the world that deserve freedom but u.s. freedom comes at a cost to the freedom of others it seems."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #12 May 22, 2005 No matter how many times you say it, it's still bullshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #13 May 23, 2005 QuoteNo matter how many times you say it, it's still bullshit. Oh come on John, you're forgetting the utopia these poor misunderstood heroes created in Afghanistan. All that freedom the Taliban and Al Qaida lavished on their people over there. That's what Arabs really want and it's our fault that the butchers of 9-11 aren't able to bestow their wise leadership upon Pan-Arabia. We're oppressing them. Heck all those car bombs blowing worshipers apart outside mosques are our fault. We should just leave the country in the capable hands of these misunderstood heroes of the suppressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #14 May 23, 2005 Build 4 towers to send them a great big "fuck you". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BIGUN 1,488 #15 May 23, 2005 You mean something like this? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #16 May 23, 2005 Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #17 May 23, 2005 Yes they would be something of a magnet... but so were the old ones. At the end of the day it's a capitolist society - if the workforce were too nervous to work there, pay would go up till they weren't. I'd expect to see a windfall for all those little companies selling idiot proof escape parachutes though... and I might just keep an old rig in the bottom draw of the desk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #18 May 23, 2005 Quote Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question Let's say you were on the top floor, would you take your rig to work? Serious question. Wasn't Donald Trump muting some kind of a BASE rig at some point? Ah yes a quick search produces this: http://www.hypocrites.com/article1247.html Shop here and take your pick: http://www.saferamerica.com/saProducts.asp?categoryID=15 http://www.executivechute.com/ http://www.evacuchute.com/ http://www.para-sport.com/hope/item_11.htm And good luck: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=539 P.S. article's a bit harsh I think, it's Hobson's choice or was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #19 May 23, 2005 Let's say you were on the top floor, would you take your rig to work? Serious question. Serious answer is: I try my best to avoid high buildings, skyscrapers, as I cannot stand it. And the idea to work in a new tower built on Ground Zero would not make it much easier. But to answer your question: If I HAVE to be on top floor, why not with my rig? Yes, I would if I need to work there. This area should remain like it is now, forever being a memorial place. Have been there last autumn. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #12 May 22, 2005 No matter how many times you say it, it's still bullshit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #13 May 23, 2005 QuoteNo matter how many times you say it, it's still bullshit. Oh come on John, you're forgetting the utopia these poor misunderstood heroes created in Afghanistan. All that freedom the Taliban and Al Qaida lavished on their people over there. That's what Arabs really want and it's our fault that the butchers of 9-11 aren't able to bestow their wise leadership upon Pan-Arabia. We're oppressing them. Heck all those car bombs blowing worshipers apart outside mosques are our fault. We should just leave the country in the capable hands of these misunderstood heroes of the suppressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #14 May 23, 2005 Build 4 towers to send them a great big "fuck you". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #15 May 23, 2005 You mean something like this? Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #16 May 23, 2005 Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #17 May 23, 2005 Yes they would be something of a magnet... but so were the old ones. At the end of the day it's a capitolist society - if the workforce were too nervous to work there, pay would go up till they weren't. I'd expect to see a windfall for all those little companies selling idiot proof escape parachutes though... and I might just keep an old rig in the bottom draw of the desk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #18 May 23, 2005 Quote Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question Let's say you were on the top floor, would you take your rig to work? Serious question. Wasn't Donald Trump muting some kind of a BASE rig at some point? Ah yes a quick search produces this: http://www.hypocrites.com/article1247.html Shop here and take your pick: http://www.saferamerica.com/saProducts.asp?categoryID=15 http://www.executivechute.com/ http://www.evacuchute.com/ http://www.para-sport.com/hope/item_11.htm And good luck: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=539 P.S. article's a bit harsh I think, it's Hobson's choice or was. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #19 May 23, 2005 Let's say you were on the top floor, would you take your rig to work? Serious question. Serious answer is: I try my best to avoid high buildings, skyscrapers, as I cannot stand it. And the idea to work in a new tower built on Ground Zero would not make it much easier. But to answer your question: If I HAVE to be on top floor, why not with my rig? Yes, I would if I need to work there. This area should remain like it is now, forever being a memorial place. Have been there last autumn. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #20 May 23, 2005 QuoteYes they would be something of a magnet You think the "freedom tower" would not be? I say rebuild them bigger than before."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #21 May 23, 2005 > Build 4 towers to send them a great big "fuck you". Again, as long as we keep reacting to the terrorists, they will have achieved their objective. We should build whatever the hell we want, and not spare a thought for what terrorists think of it. Why continue to respond to them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aerohaga 0 #22 May 23, 2005 QuoteYou mean something like this? That is the best design I've see yet!For my part, I know nothing with any certainty, But the sight of the stars makes me dream. -Vincent Van Gogh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #23 May 23, 2005 Quote Would you feel comfortable working in these new towers? Serious question BIGUN, love your design! Well, they changed their security following the first bombing where the terrorists drove a bomb-laden truck into the garage under one tower. I'm pretty certain they couldn't repeat the same feat. Nobody's been able to hijack another airliner since 9/11 and fly them into objects on the ground in the USA, because of the increased security, as well as changes in what security allows onboard, as well as putting locks on cockpit doors and putting armed marshals on most flights. I can't say for sure that we won't see attacks in the same manners in the future, so you never know, but I'll take my chances and work wherever I need to."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,488 #24 May 23, 2005 QuoteBIGUN, love your design! Just for the record... not my design. This was floating around the Internet when all the replacement proposals were being considered. I thought it cute, but am not too far off BillVon's position. I think the Twin Towers should be the way they were, but for a different reason. It could serve as a memorial, but it would mean that "they" did not change the landscape of America. To me, a different landscape would serve as a constant reminder of their success. The original landscape would serve as a reminder to us that we remain strong; no matter what adversity we face.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #25 May 23, 2005 The best memorial would be to restore the NY skyline roughly the way it was. Not necessarily exact replicas; maybe they could build them stronger this time. Those buildings were huge. If you want a memorial to those that died, you could install an entire museum dedicated to that purpose on the ground floor. There would be plenty of room. But we should restore the NY skyline to what it was. I definitely DO NOT think we should just leave a big park there. The idea should be that it is America that will outlast this event, not the terrorists' actions .. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
