UntamedDOG 0 #1 May 10, 2005 I have been skydiving a few years and I have a thought that I would like to share. This might sound irrational. I find myself a bit eager to experience the rush of a skydiving fatality firsthand. Maybe I am being a drama whore, but I am amazed at how death brings about a sense of fellowship in our sport. People talk about accidents all the time on DZ.com and I am amazed at how it has become such an accepted topic. There are always the social gatherings like the funerals, and memorial dives dedicated to the victims. Witnessing a skydivers death has truly become a prerequisite to nobility. I watch skydivers who have recently witnessed a fatality, they always seem to carry themselves with a quiet solemnity. Perhaps they think they have a notch in their belts because they had the pugnacity to continue despite ominous surroundings. I would like to know if anyone out there feels the same way I do. Has witnessing a skydiving fatality become a “check” on the list of things we are suppose to experience as we become more seasoned skydivers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #2 May 10, 2005 Fuck no! Whenever there's trouble brewing I am eager to help. However, I do not have any medical training, so my help might be to run to the main road and guide the ambulance. I do not wish to see someone pound in, if I can help it. Should it occur one day that I am closest to the impact, of course I will run there, but it is not a very desirable prospect.HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #3 May 10, 2005 QuoteI find myself a bit eager to experience the rush of a skydiving fatality firsthand. Well, off you go then. One thing I can tell you. Youll never feel quite the same way about the sport. Right now, you live in an idyllic kingdom. Soon, you'll see we need to feed our friends to the dragon to enjoy our lifestyle. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achowe 0 #4 May 10, 2005 Sick------------------------------------------------- Woooaaaaaa!!! Woooaaaa!!! I'm gettin' off it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #5 May 10, 2005 QuoteSick Care to elaborate? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achowe 0 #6 May 10, 2005 Why would you have a desire to see someone go in? I fail to see the attraction.------------------------------------------------- Woooaaaaaa!!! Woooaaaa!!! I'm gettin' off it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #7 May 10, 2005 QuoteWhy would you have a desire to see someone go in? I fail to see the attraction. Agreed. More to the point, why are you calling me sick and asking me the question? Why don't you ask the origional poster? tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
achowe 0 #8 May 10, 2005 I wasnt calling you sick. Maybe I replied to the wrong post It was pointed at the original poster------------------------------------------------- Woooaaaaaa!!! Woooaaaa!!! I'm gettin' off it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
heidihagen 0 #10 May 10, 2005 this has been viewed nearly 100x but only 4 have responded. i probably threw in 10 of those views because i kept reopening to make sure that was REALLY what you wrote. i guess i don't know what to say yet. it's disturbing to say the least. QuoteHas witnessing a skydiving fatality become a “check” on the list of things we are suppose to experience as we become more seasoned skydivers? a check list? i hope not! you're making it sound like something you would enjoy. edited because i still can.i didn't lose my mind, i sold it on ebay. .:need a container to fit 5'4", 110 lb. cypres ready & able to fit a 170 main (or slightly smaller):.[/ce Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #11 May 10, 2005 Hmmmmm. Don't know if you have posted this to stir things up or what. Bear in mind that if i see a fatality even now at my early stages, it is likely to be a friend of mine. And even if it wasn't i still don't want to see it. QuoteWitnessing a skydivers death has truly become a prerequisite to nobility. I watch skydivers who have recently witnessed a fatality, they always seem to carry themselves with a quiet solemnity. Perhaps they think they have a notch in their belts because they had the pugnacity to continue despite ominous surroundings. I really hope you don't think this. Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #12 May 10, 2005 QuoteI would like to know if anyone out there feels the same way I do. Has witnessing a skydiving fatality become a “check” on the list of things we are suppose to experience as we become more seasoned skydivers? No way. Posting before the lock.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darryn 0 #13 May 10, 2005 It's hard to believe that an acual skydiver wants to see a fellow brother or sister bounce. This is not NASCAR were some does a good crash and gets out and walks away. It is also not war where it is glourious to die in battle. We are all doing this sport because we love to do it. I hope if I am ever at your drop zone and ask for a gear check, that it is not you. I agree with the other post "SICK" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #14 May 10, 2005 QuoteThis might sound irrational. Yeah - You got that right. QuoteI find myself a bit eager to experience the rush of a skydiving fatality firsthand I have no idea why a rational person would be eager to see some one go in. It just doesn't seem right. It's not right to want to see some one die, just so you can say you watched it and wear that like some sort of badge. Watching a fatality is not some rite of passage in our community, and certainly nothing to celebrate. I am fortunate I've seen only a couple injuries and have broken a couple bones myself. I hope I never see any more injuries and that I never have to witness a fatality. When a fellow skydiver does pass on, regardless of the manner, it does bring us together, just as a death in any family can have a bonding effect. We are all very aware of our own mortality, maybe just slightly more that the average human. QuoteThere are always the social gatherings like the funerals, and memorial dives dedicated to the victims. And bikers have been known to have some pretty big memorial runs, etc. for fallen brothers, no matter how they passed. It's a sign of respect for the deceased and thier survivors. QuoteWitnessing a skydivers death has truly become a prerequisite to nobility. Talk to some on who has been at a skydivers' funeral sometime (I haven't, and I hope I never am-) I don't think you'll find "nobility" in thier vocabulary as you speak to them. QuoteI would like to know if anyone out there feels the same way I do. Very few, if any, I would think. I hope you're all on your own on this one. QuoteHas witnessing a skydiving fatality become a “check” on the list of things we are suppose to experience as we become more seasoned skydivers? Sure as hell ain't on my checklist. 'nuff said. Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,550 #15 May 10, 2005 I've been jumping 17 of the last 30 years. I was actively reading skydiving stuff during the other years. I've never witnessed a fatality, and have no desire to do so. The one time I thought I was going to see someone bounce, I looked away at the crucial time, but, well, he didn't bounce (I no longer remember the exact circumstances). I wasn't disappointed. I suppose if I were the only witness I'd watch just to provide information. But there's nothing noble in it. Not something to check off. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #16 May 10, 2005 OK. We're in agreement on the origional poster. I'm sorry if I got defensive. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #17 May 10, 2005 I saw someone go in under a spinning mal while walking out to do my Level VIII hop and pop. Fortunately the jumper survived, injured but alive and able to recover. I have no desire to see anything similar again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #18 May 10, 2005 Oh, you're going to get flamed to death on this one! My reading of your post is that you're more interested in the effect that a fatality would have on the dz rather than on the actual incident. Is that correct? I'd confess to occasionally wondering what my dz would be like if someone went it. I've no desire to find out first-hand though. My idle curiosity isn't, in the big scheme of things, worth squat. Wonder what those who've been around the sport 20+ years think? So far I notice it's the new folk that have been the harshest in their condemnation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #19 May 10, 2005 Go to www.ogrish.com if you want to see people die. Or maybe get a snuff film, although I suggest therapy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #20 May 10, 2005 Dude, that's fucked up right there. Be careful what you wish for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #21 May 10, 2005 I have nothing constructive to add.In my 7 yrs in the sport I have known 3 people who died and witnessed another.It's not the experience you think it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travman 6 #22 May 10, 2005 QuoteI find myself a bit eager to experience the rush of a skydiving fatality firsthand. Are you volunteering? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #23 May 10, 2005 Saying what you said is just wrong. Those of us who have seen it are taking offense because it's disturbing to see, the ripple effect is huge, we've seen the effect on friends and family and don't ever want to have to go through that again. And its not just skydiving. Any person who wants to see death needs to be examined by a qualified professional. The people you see who walk around in solemn reflection understand the risks they take and have respect for this sport and its potential. I seriously doubt you have respect for much of anything including yourself. You describe it as a "rush" like some drug. This post is so disgusting I can't even continue.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gordy 0 #24 May 10, 2005 I think you should have a good long think as to whether skydiving is for you, to describe a skydiving fatality as "the rush of.....", you should seek some help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #25 May 10, 2005 I second the point above - you should seek help working through this as it is not healthy."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites