sinker 0 #151 May 4, 2005 Quoteyou can stop from orgasiming (sp) i do it all the time, just think of bumble bees, ill experience or thought process can and will stop. *** the temptation to respond to this is just killing me!! i personally think of kittens drowing. -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #152 May 4, 2005 so every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? Every person in jail for murder is always a murderer? Over 35% of all people in jail are wrongly convicted. Do you live in a box and think that the judicial system is always right? I understand why some wrongly convicted go to jail that is the price we have to pay but that does not mean all people in jail are guilty, they were just found guilty.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #153 May 4, 2005 im not a cat person so it would be bumblebees, scare the crap out of me , or frogs, ewwww frogsSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #154 May 4, 2005 > so every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? Most did. Far more rapists escape jail time than innocent people are in jail for rape. The system's not perfect, but it usually works well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #155 May 4, 2005 Quote> so every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? Most did. Far more rapists escape jail time than innocent people are in jail for rape. The system's not perfect, but it usually works well. Remember this guy? It made all the networks' news at the time: www.law.northwestern.edu/depts/clinic/wrongful/exonerations/Dotson.htm... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lindsey 0 #156 May 4, 2005 Over 35% of all people in jail are wrongly convicted. Do you live in a box and think that the judicial system is always right? I don't think that most people (who are wrongly convicted) are wrongly convicted because the jury misundertood the definition of the crime committed. I think that most people are wrongly convicted because they convicted the wrong person. BIG difference. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #157 May 4, 2005 Quoteso every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? No, but I would believe the majority of them did. Quote Every person in jail for murder is always a murderer? Nearly all of them. Quote Over 35% of all people in jail are wrongly convicted. Personally, I have a hard time believing that, but if you would provide a source to that info, I'll check it out. Quote Do you live in a box and think that the judicial system is always right? Do you live in a box and think it isn't possible that the woman that was convicted was lying, or that he was telling the truth? Quote I understand why some wrongly convicted go to jail that is the price we have to pay but that does not mean all people in jail are guilty, they were just found guilty. Ok, but all of the stuff you just listed is pretty much irrevelant, so could you please get back to the topic at hand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #158 May 4, 2005 I agree, I think for the most part we understand the definations of crimes but wrongly accused and INNOCENT people go to jail all the time for crimes they did not commit. Its part of the judicial system. The system is comprised of humans, which normally we are all wrong for some reason or another. As a example, there was a role that I had to do with 4 other woman, we all watched the same video of a crime then were interviewd, our perceptions and our own backgrounds and beliefs, that is why anything read in a newspaper or in a forum should be taken with a grain of saltSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #159 May 4, 2005 QuoteQuote> so every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? Most did. Far more rapists escape jail time than innocent people are in jail for rape. The system's not perfect, but it usually works well. Remember this guy? It made all the networks' news at the time: www.law.northwestern.edu/depts/clinic/wrongful/exonerations/Dotson.htm Wow!! I didn't read the whole thing, do you recall what happened to the woman who made the false accusation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #160 May 4, 2005 I do believe a man can be raped, I DONT BELIEVE THAT ONE WAS but point her is what I believe I am not gender biased. If I thought a white man shouldnt go to jail for a crime he didnt commit would that mean im a racist?Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #161 May 4, 2005 QuoteI agree, I think for the most part we understand the definations of crimes but wrongly accused and INNOCENT people go to jail all the time for crimes they did not commit. Its part of the judicial system. The system is comprised of humans, which normally we are all wrong for some reason or another. Why do you think that the woman was innocent? I've yet to hear a good reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #162 May 4, 2005 I will find it , I saw it on a show that was about DNA coming up for old cases. Similar to the one that was recently posted. Ill post on here the numbers and the sourcesSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #163 May 4, 2005 A. No where have I heard that he denies smiling B. They had sexual contact before, he was doing his best friends chick. C. Because I have read in many spots that he was convicted strickly because she started when he was asleep which according to norweign law is well against the law which means I should be in jail and so should a few of my old flames. That is the simple jest of it for me,Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #164 May 4, 2005 QuoteI will find it , I saw it on a show that was about DNA coming up for old cases. Similar to the one that was recently posted. Ill post on here the numbers and the sources Please do, I think it would be an interesting article to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #165 May 4, 2005 do a google, I have to go right now, if by morning your not convinced I will find itSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,148 #166 May 4, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote> so every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? Most did. Far more rapists escape jail time than innocent people are in jail for rape. The system's not perfect, but it usually works well. Remember this guy? It made all the networks' news at the time: www.law.northwestern.edu/depts/clinic/wrongful/exonerations/Dotson.htm Wow!! I didn't read the whole thing, do you recall what happened to the woman who made the false accusation? Sorry, i don't recall. I mostly kept up because it all happened where I live, and the lying woman went to the same high school that my kids attended.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lindsey 0 #167 May 4, 2005 QuoteQuoteI will find it , I saw it on a show that was about DNA coming up for old cases. Similar to the one that was recently posted. Ill post on here the numbers and the sources Please do, I think it would be an interesting article to read. Finding the perpetrator of the crime is not the issue here....Not relevant Maybe the guy was appalled that his friend's gf was blowing him. Also....if it's against the law in Norway to give a man a blowjob while he's sleeping, and you do it, then in Norway you're a criminal. linz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #168 May 5, 2005 QuoteI agree, I think for the most part we understand the definations of crimes As a lawyer reading this thread I think it's quite clear that the majority of people here do not fully understand the finite nuances of the definitions of the crimes discussed. That's not exactly surprising - there's a hell of a lot to defining a complicated crime like rape. I would have been more surprised if you all had known - after all, the law of rape and sexual assault we have in this country (UK) took decades of case law and statutory tinkering to get to the point it is now. All of the situations you're discussing have been covered, there's very little new in the book. Want a case about nailing someone's dick to a table and putting stinging nettles on his balls – see R. v. Brown... it's all been done before and there are answers to all your "hypothetical" situations. Didn't anyone tell you we Brits are perverts? But there's an awful lot more to it than you think you know, and I don't have nearly enough time to go into it as this thread appears to want. You guys are actually touching on some quite difficult topics here (well done by the way)... to deal with them properly I'd have to write pages, most of which would be completely irrelevant as you're mostly yanks applying US law to a Norwegian case. Chucking UK law into the melting pot is hardly going to help things, even if it did explain the way one jurisdiction at least did things. Besides you'd only argue with me. And no one would read a 3 page post... I've made them before and they get ignored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lisamariewillbe 1 #169 May 5, 2005 Id read a three page report, Im a dork I read educational papers for fun...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sinker 0 #170 May 5, 2005 QuoteId read a three page report, Im a dork I read educational papers for fun... don't be so hard on yourself... someone once told me that a dork literally was a whale's penis... you're not one of those... are you? -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #171 May 5, 2005 Walrus, not whale. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrunkMonkey 0 #172 May 5, 2005 QuoteWalrus.. Coo Coo KaChoo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Kennedy 0 #173 May 5, 2005 What, did they repaint your otter and name it the yellow submarine?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites justinb138 0 #174 May 5, 2005 QuoteWhat, did they repaint your otter and name it the yellow submarine? Hey now.... we've got a yellow otter... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sinker 0 #175 May 5, 2005 QuoteWalrus, not whale. oh... well... now I know who to go to when I have questions about dicks... j/k... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next Page 7 of 7 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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lisamariewillbe 1 #152 May 4, 2005 so every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? Every person in jail for murder is always a murderer? Over 35% of all people in jail are wrongly convicted. Do you live in a box and think that the judicial system is always right? I understand why some wrongly convicted go to jail that is the price we have to pay but that does not mean all people in jail are guilty, they were just found guilty.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #153 May 4, 2005 im not a cat person so it would be bumblebees, scare the crap out of me , or frogs, ewwww frogsSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #154 May 4, 2005 > so every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? Most did. Far more rapists escape jail time than innocent people are in jail for rape. The system's not perfect, but it usually works well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #155 May 4, 2005 Quote> so every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? Most did. Far more rapists escape jail time than innocent people are in jail for rape. The system's not perfect, but it usually works well. Remember this guy? It made all the networks' news at the time: www.law.northwestern.edu/depts/clinic/wrongful/exonerations/Dotson.htm... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #156 May 4, 2005 Over 35% of all people in jail are wrongly convicted. Do you live in a box and think that the judicial system is always right? I don't think that most people (who are wrongly convicted) are wrongly convicted because the jury misundertood the definition of the crime committed. I think that most people are wrongly convicted because they convicted the wrong person. BIG difference. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #157 May 4, 2005 Quoteso every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? No, but I would believe the majority of them did. Quote Every person in jail for murder is always a murderer? Nearly all of them. Quote Over 35% of all people in jail are wrongly convicted. Personally, I have a hard time believing that, but if you would provide a source to that info, I'll check it out. Quote Do you live in a box and think that the judicial system is always right? Do you live in a box and think it isn't possible that the woman that was convicted was lying, or that he was telling the truth? Quote I understand why some wrongly convicted go to jail that is the price we have to pay but that does not mean all people in jail are guilty, they were just found guilty. Ok, but all of the stuff you just listed is pretty much irrevelant, so could you please get back to the topic at hand? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #158 May 4, 2005 I agree, I think for the most part we understand the definations of crimes but wrongly accused and INNOCENT people go to jail all the time for crimes they did not commit. Its part of the judicial system. The system is comprised of humans, which normally we are all wrong for some reason or another. As a example, there was a role that I had to do with 4 other woman, we all watched the same video of a crime then were interviewd, our perceptions and our own backgrounds and beliefs, that is why anything read in a newspaper or in a forum should be taken with a grain of saltSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #159 May 4, 2005 QuoteQuote> so every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? Most did. Far more rapists escape jail time than innocent people are in jail for rape. The system's not perfect, but it usually works well. Remember this guy? It made all the networks' news at the time: www.law.northwestern.edu/depts/clinic/wrongful/exonerations/Dotson.htm Wow!! I didn't read the whole thing, do you recall what happened to the woman who made the false accusation? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #160 May 4, 2005 I do believe a man can be raped, I DONT BELIEVE THAT ONE WAS but point her is what I believe I am not gender biased. If I thought a white man shouldnt go to jail for a crime he didnt commit would that mean im a racist?Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #161 May 4, 2005 QuoteI agree, I think for the most part we understand the definations of crimes but wrongly accused and INNOCENT people go to jail all the time for crimes they did not commit. Its part of the judicial system. The system is comprised of humans, which normally we are all wrong for some reason or another. Why do you think that the woman was innocent? I've yet to hear a good reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #162 May 4, 2005 I will find it , I saw it on a show that was about DNA coming up for old cases. Similar to the one that was recently posted. Ill post on here the numbers and the sourcesSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #163 May 4, 2005 A. No where have I heard that he denies smiling B. They had sexual contact before, he was doing his best friends chick. C. Because I have read in many spots that he was convicted strickly because she started when he was asleep which according to norweign law is well against the law which means I should be in jail and so should a few of my old flames. That is the simple jest of it for me,Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #164 May 4, 2005 QuoteI will find it , I saw it on a show that was about DNA coming up for old cases. Similar to the one that was recently posted. Ill post on here the numbers and the sources Please do, I think it would be an interesting article to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #165 May 4, 2005 do a google, I have to go right now, if by morning your not convinced I will find itSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #166 May 4, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuote> so every man who goes to jail for rape must have raped? Most did. Far more rapists escape jail time than innocent people are in jail for rape. The system's not perfect, but it usually works well. Remember this guy? It made all the networks' news at the time: www.law.northwestern.edu/depts/clinic/wrongful/exonerations/Dotson.htm Wow!! I didn't read the whole thing, do you recall what happened to the woman who made the false accusation? Sorry, i don't recall. I mostly kept up because it all happened where I live, and the lying woman went to the same high school that my kids attended.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #167 May 4, 2005 QuoteQuoteI will find it , I saw it on a show that was about DNA coming up for old cases. Similar to the one that was recently posted. Ill post on here the numbers and the sources Please do, I think it would be an interesting article to read. Finding the perpetrator of the crime is not the issue here....Not relevant Maybe the guy was appalled that his friend's gf was blowing him. Also....if it's against the law in Norway to give a man a blowjob while he's sleeping, and you do it, then in Norway you're a criminal. linz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #168 May 5, 2005 QuoteI agree, I think for the most part we understand the definations of crimes As a lawyer reading this thread I think it's quite clear that the majority of people here do not fully understand the finite nuances of the definitions of the crimes discussed. That's not exactly surprising - there's a hell of a lot to defining a complicated crime like rape. I would have been more surprised if you all had known - after all, the law of rape and sexual assault we have in this country (UK) took decades of case law and statutory tinkering to get to the point it is now. All of the situations you're discussing have been covered, there's very little new in the book. Want a case about nailing someone's dick to a table and putting stinging nettles on his balls – see R. v. Brown... it's all been done before and there are answers to all your "hypothetical" situations. Didn't anyone tell you we Brits are perverts? But there's an awful lot more to it than you think you know, and I don't have nearly enough time to go into it as this thread appears to want. You guys are actually touching on some quite difficult topics here (well done by the way)... to deal with them properly I'd have to write pages, most of which would be completely irrelevant as you're mostly yanks applying US law to a Norwegian case. Chucking UK law into the melting pot is hardly going to help things, even if it did explain the way one jurisdiction at least did things. Besides you'd only argue with me. And no one would read a 3 page post... I've made them before and they get ignored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #169 May 5, 2005 Id read a three page report, Im a dork I read educational papers for fun...Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #170 May 5, 2005 QuoteId read a three page report, Im a dork I read educational papers for fun... don't be so hard on yourself... someone once told me that a dork literally was a whale's penis... you're not one of those... are you? -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #171 May 5, 2005 Walrus, not whale. witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #172 May 5, 2005 QuoteWalrus.. Coo Coo KaChoo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #173 May 5, 2005 What, did they repaint your otter and name it the yellow submarine?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #174 May 5, 2005 QuoteWhat, did they repaint your otter and name it the yellow submarine? Hey now.... we've got a yellow otter... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinker 0 #175 May 5, 2005 QuoteWalrus, not whale. oh... well... now I know who to go to when I have questions about dicks... j/k... -the artist formerly known as sinker Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
