rushmc 23 #51 April 28, 2005 HHmmmm, I didn't know those cigars were illegal over there And if was given to him?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #52 April 28, 2005 QuoteHHmmmm, I didn't know those cigars were illegal over there Illegal or not, it certainly makes his basis for continuing the economic sanctions complete bull shit. Quote And if was given to him? He should have respectfully refused it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,131 #53 April 28, 2005 >And if was given to him? His decision. Accept it and prop up a brutal, totalitarian regime, destroying america's national honor in the process, or decline it. There is a third option, of course - he accepts it and doesn't worry his head about it none, because he was just spouting a prepared line he didn't really believe in to make political hay. Given what I've seen of politicians, the third option is the most likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #54 April 28, 2005 QuoteRe: Cigar He should have respectfully refused it. There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar besides smoke it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #55 April 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteRe: Cigar He should have respectfully refused it. There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar besides smoke it... Oh the visuals !!!!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #56 April 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteThere have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar besides smoke it... Oh the visuals !!!!! Aha! I see that you grasped the incident to which I was refering! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,131 #57 April 28, 2005 >There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar >besides smoke it... Congratulations! You guys made it three posts before bringing up your favorite issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #58 April 28, 2005 Which is???"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydyvr 0 #59 April 29, 2005 Quote>There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar >besides smoke it... Congratulations! You guys made it three posts before bringing up your favorite issue. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Guns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #60 April 29, 2005 QuoteQuote>There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar >besides smoke it... Congratulations! You guys made it three posts before bringing up your favorite issue. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Guns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Aaah, the gun connection. I knew there would be one.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #61 April 29, 2005 QuoteQuote>There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar >besides smoke it... Congratulations! You guys made it three posts before bringing up your favorite issue. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Guns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Well known all over the planet I always thought this is a myth as I am a reasonable person but, since I read DZ.com and some post(er)s over here... The longer they talk... (about weapons) LMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #62 April 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteGuns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Well known all over the planet I always thought this is a myth as I am a reasonable person but, since I read DZ.com and some post(er)s over here... The longer they talk... (about weapons) LMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO I didn't realize that bigotry was so humorous. Maybe I should try it sometime. "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund FreudLMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #63 April 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteGuns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Well known all over the planet I always thought this is a myth as I am a reasonable person but, since I read DZ.com and some post(er)s over here... The longer they talk... (about weapons) LMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO I didn't realize that bigotry was so humorous. Maybe I should try it sometime. "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund FreudLMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO JohnRich, if you feel it was adressed to you, that's your problem. It was not. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #64 April 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteGuns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Well known all over the planet I always thought this is a myth as I am a reasonable person but, since I read DZ.com and some post(er)s over here... The longer they talk... (about weapons) LMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO I didn't realize that bigotry was so humorous. Maybe I should try it sometime. "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund FreudLMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO JohnRich, if you feel it was adressed to you, that's your problem. It was not. I don't think it was a personal thing at all. He's saying, quite correctly, that it's inappropriate to mock people who compensate for their sexually inadequacy by playing with guns and/or cigars. Show a little sensitivity, please.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #65 April 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteGuns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Well known all over the planet I always thought this is a myth as I am a reasonable person but, since I read DZ.com and some post(er)s over here... The longer they talk... (about weapons) LMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO I didn't realize that bigotry was so humorous. Maybe I should try it sometime. "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund FreudLMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO JohnRich, if you feel it was adressed to you, that's your problem. It was not. I don't think it was a personal thing at all. He's saying, quite correctly, that it's inappropriate to mock people who compensate for their sexually inadequacy by playing with guns and/or cigars. Show a little sensitivity, please. OK, will try my best to be good. Please let me repeat: It was not personally adressed to anyone, as I only met few DZ.com posters. I should have given it a title: To Whom It May Concern. Now I'm on my way to the cellar to laugh..... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Alias 0 #66 May 2, 2005 [reply"Mrs. Schiavo’s death is a moral poverty and a legal tragedy. This loss happened because our legal system did not protect the people who need protection most, and that will change. The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior, but not today. Today we grieve, we pray, and we hope to God this fate never befalls another. Our thoughts and prayers are with the Schindlers and with Terri Schiavo’s friends in this time of deep sorrow."." Keeping in mind Delay's religious background, I do not think it a stretch to assume he ment God's judgement...as in answer to GOD? missed that one didnt you guys? Carpe Diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #53 April 28, 2005 >And if was given to him? His decision. Accept it and prop up a brutal, totalitarian regime, destroying america's national honor in the process, or decline it. There is a third option, of course - he accepts it and doesn't worry his head about it none, because he was just spouting a prepared line he didn't really believe in to make political hay. Given what I've seen of politicians, the third option is the most likely. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #54 April 28, 2005 QuoteRe: Cigar He should have respectfully refused it. There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar besides smoke it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #55 April 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteRe: Cigar He should have respectfully refused it. There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar besides smoke it... Oh the visuals !!!!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #56 April 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteThere have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar besides smoke it... Oh the visuals !!!!! Aha! I see that you grasped the incident to which I was refering! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #57 April 28, 2005 >There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar >besides smoke it... Congratulations! You guys made it three posts before bringing up your favorite issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #58 April 28, 2005 Which is???"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #59 April 29, 2005 Quote>There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar >besides smoke it... Congratulations! You guys made it three posts before bringing up your favorite issue. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Guns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #60 April 29, 2005 QuoteQuote>There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar >besides smoke it... Congratulations! You guys made it three posts before bringing up your favorite issue. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Guns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Aaah, the gun connection. I knew there would be one.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #61 April 29, 2005 QuoteQuote>There have been worse things that politicians have done with a cigar >besides smoke it... Congratulations! You guys made it three posts before bringing up your favorite issue. Six of one, half dozen of the other. Guns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Well known all over the planet I always thought this is a myth as I am a reasonable person but, since I read DZ.com and some post(er)s over here... The longer they talk... (about weapons) LMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #62 April 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteGuns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Well known all over the planet I always thought this is a myth as I am a reasonable person but, since I read DZ.com and some post(er)s over here... The longer they talk... (about weapons) LMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO I didn't realize that bigotry was so humorous. Maybe I should try it sometime. "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund FreudLMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #63 April 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteGuns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Well known all over the planet I always thought this is a myth as I am a reasonable person but, since I read DZ.com and some post(er)s over here... The longer they talk... (about weapons) LMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO I didn't realize that bigotry was so humorous. Maybe I should try it sometime. "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund FreudLMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO JohnRich, if you feel it was adressed to you, that's your problem. It was not. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #64 April 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteGuns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Well known all over the planet I always thought this is a myth as I am a reasonable person but, since I read DZ.com and some post(er)s over here... The longer they talk... (about weapons) LMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO I didn't realize that bigotry was so humorous. Maybe I should try it sometime. "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund FreudLMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO JohnRich, if you feel it was adressed to you, that's your problem. It was not. I don't think it was a personal thing at all. He's saying, quite correctly, that it's inappropriate to mock people who compensate for their sexually inadequacy by playing with guns and/or cigars. Show a little sensitivity, please.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #65 April 30, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteGuns and cigars can both represent psychological compensation for the same physical inadequacy. Well known all over the planet I always thought this is a myth as I am a reasonable person but, since I read DZ.com and some post(er)s over here... The longer they talk... (about weapons) LMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO I didn't realize that bigotry was so humorous. Maybe I should try it sometime. "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund FreudLMAO It seem to fit? ROFLMAO JohnRich, if you feel it was adressed to you, that's your problem. It was not. I don't think it was a personal thing at all. He's saying, quite correctly, that it's inappropriate to mock people who compensate for their sexually inadequacy by playing with guns and/or cigars. Show a little sensitivity, please. OK, will try my best to be good. Please let me repeat: It was not personally adressed to anyone, as I only met few DZ.com posters. I should have given it a title: To Whom It May Concern. Now I'm on my way to the cellar to laugh..... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias 0 #66 May 2, 2005 [reply"Mrs. Schiavo’s death is a moral poverty and a legal tragedy. This loss happened because our legal system did not protect the people who need protection most, and that will change. The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for their behavior, but not today. Today we grieve, we pray, and we hope to God this fate never befalls another. Our thoughts and prayers are with the Schindlers and with Terri Schiavo’s friends in this time of deep sorrow."." Keeping in mind Delay's religious background, I do not think it a stretch to assume he ment God's judgement...as in answer to GOD? missed that one didnt you guys? Carpe Diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #67 May 2, 2005 Quote Keeping in mind Delay's religious background, I do not think it a stretch to assume he ment God's judgement...as in answer to GOD? missed that one didnt you guys? I think it would have been to his benefit to make that more clear if it was the case (and I'm not trying to say that it wasn't). Personally. I think that his comment during that speech is enough to motivate some religious nut to go after the judges involved. Congressmen simply shouldn't make comments like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,131 #68 May 2, 2005 >Keeping in mind Delay's religious background, I do not think it a >stretch to assume he ment God's judgement...as in answer to GOD? Well, let's see what one of his fellow right wing extremists says: ---------------- Robertson: Judges worse than Al Qaeda BY DEREK ROSE DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER Federal judges are a more serious threat to America than Al Qaeda and the Sept. 11 terrorists, the Rev. Pat Robertson claimed yesterday. . . Confronted by Stephanopoulos on his claims that an out-of-control liberal judiciary is the worst threat America has faced in 400 years - worse than Nazi Germany, Japan and the Civil War - Robertson didn't back down. "Yes, I really believe that," he said. "I think they are destroying the fabric that holds our nation together." -------------------- We have forgotten about the man who killed 3000 americans in 2001, and instead are attacking US judges for doing their jobs. Bin Laden can rest a little easier today. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias 0 #69 May 2, 2005 yep - another "super religious" attitude. By using Pat Robertson as an example, I'll guess you agree that Delay could have ment "God"? And I also agree that it could touch off religious freaks to retaliate - but doubt that was the intention Carpe Diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #70 May 2, 2005 He could have meant God, but that doesn't change the fact that Congressmen shouldn't make comments like he did. The threat he made might be enough to motivate some religious nut to go after the judges. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #71 May 2, 2005 Oh come on, have you heard the comments some politicians have saida bout gun owners? Don't you think that the "threat they made might be enough to motivate some anti-gun nut to go after the innocent and law abiding gun owners?" You can't base condemnation on what some nut might do with it. There is a lot more to the law than that.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #72 May 2, 2005 Quote You can't base condemnation on what some nut might do with it. There is a lot more to the law than that. Ah, point taken. Just because the threat he made was legal, doesn't mean it was right, or anywhere near appropriate. Personally, I think he is a nut. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #73 May 2, 2005 QuoteJust because the threat he made was legal, doesn't mean it was right, or anywhere near appropriate. Granted. I don't know how scripted or rehearsed that speech was, but it seems like a small change in sematics would've conveyed the same sentiment without starting a shitstorm of "he might've meant." QuotePersonally, I think he is a nut. Well, he is an outspoken politician.... witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
