justinb138 0 #1 April 15, 2005 Quote Wrapped in his Christian values, U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Sugar Land, is accusing a mythical left-wing conspiracy of trying to bring him down, along with the entire conservative movement. In comments to the Family Research Council last month, the House majority leader invoked the name of Christ as he urged members of the group to fight the "whole syndicate" that was trying to destroy conservative leaders, including Christian pastors. "If they go after and get a pastor, then other pastors shrink from what they should be doing," DeLay told the group. Lyndon Johnson, he said, was responsible for forcing churches out of politics by threatening to take away their tax-exempt status. "It forces Christians back into the church," he said. "That's what's going on in America. 'The world is too bad and I'm going to get inside this building and I'm not going to play in the world.' That's not what Christ asked us to do." The remarks came as he was railing in this and other forums against federal judges for not intervening in the case of Terri Schiavo, who was kept alive by medical devices for 15 years. I think he has actually lost his mind.... Full Store here: http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/local/11402106.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darius11 12 #2 April 15, 2005 I never new he had found itI'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." - Kurt Cobain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #3 April 15, 2005 One can certainly understand his being under pressure at this point. Odd at the lack of media focus on other congressmen/women who have hired their family members as well. Senator Boxer, for instance. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,109 #4 April 15, 2005 > One can certainly understand his being under pressure at this point. Agreed, but it is entirely self-imposed. From his comments that more US judges "will get theirs" (this after a few were murdered) to his hypocrisy on the Schiavo case to his laundry list of ethics violations, he's been doing far more harm to himself than any mythical "left wing media" or "liberal conspiracy" ever could. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skolls081102 0 #5 April 15, 2005 I agree- he had absolutley lost it- I think at this point he needs to be removed from his position. And then he needs to do some serious time with a therapist- and Prozac. The sole intention, is learning to fly.Condition grounded, but determined to try.Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies.Tongue tied and twisted, just an Earth bound misfit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #6 April 15, 2005 You're right, he has lost it - he's starting to sound like Hillary.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #7 April 15, 2005 My first reaction to that was surprise. But, ya know, I can see it. Strident is as strident does. But I'll admit I like DeLay less than Hillary; he's more manipulative to me. Probably because I agree with him less, and he's less gracious. Wait -- he doesn't seem to have a gracious bone in his body. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #8 April 15, 2005 True, but given the fact that many left wingers are doing the same things DeLay is and he's getting shyte on and they are not, one can understand his frustrations. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #9 April 15, 2005 QuoteTrue, but given the fact that many left wingers are doing the same things DeLay is and he's getting shyte on and they are not, one can understand his frustrations. What do you mean by that? What are the same things that he is doing? I'm not sure what you mean. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #10 April 15, 2005 QuoteYou're right, he has lost it - he's starting to sound like Hillary. Don't laugh, it worked for Billary, it might work for him (at least among his base). What's really objectionable is the PR campaign being put out by Frist stating that Ds are against "people of faith." The politically motivated Christians in this country are starting to sound worse that Al Quaeda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,109 #11 April 15, 2005 >but given the fact that many left wingers are doing the same things >DeLay is and he's getting shyte on and they are not . . Oh, they get plenty of shit: http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/07/30/torrecelli.ethics/ ---------------------------------------------- Torricelli apologizes for ethics 'lapses' WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Robert Torricelli apologized to his New Jersey constituents Tuesday after being "severely admonished" by the Senate Ethics Committee for breaking Senate rules and displaying "poor judgment" in accepting gifts from a campaign contributor. "The day that I was elected to the United States Senate remains among the most cherished of my life," Torricelli said in a speech on the Senate floor shortly after learning of the committee's decision. "During recent weeks, I have spent long nights tormented by the question of how I could have allowed such lapses of judgment to compromise all that I have fought to build. "It might take a lifetime to answer that question to my own satisfaction," he said. Torricelli, a Democrat facing a tough re-election race for a second term, has insisted for months that he did not break Senate rules. But he said Tuesday he was prepared to accept the committee's judgment. --------------------------------------------------- The difference is, democrats get caught, they apologize, and the media moves on to the next juicy story. DeLay claims he's a victim, says it's all a conspiracy - and then goes out and does it again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #12 April 15, 2005 QuoteWhat's really objectionable is the PR campaign being put out by Frist stating that Ds are against "people of faith." The politically motivated Christians in this country are starting to sound worse that Al Quaeda. Nice - I almost had a coronary from the irony in those two sentences. Please tell me that was a joke.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #13 April 15, 2005 I was referring to Boxer and Harry Reid (among others). We all know about the Torch. A few links: http://www.latimes.com/la-na-sonsday223jun23,1,1120739.story?ctrack=2&cset=true http://www.theweeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/003/075hstwb.asp http://www.rollcall.com/pub/49_75/news/4293-1.html http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0107052clinton1.html http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york050503.asp Take the challenge and compare and contrast all of the above with what DeLay is alleged of doing and you'll get some insight into DeLay's frustrations. After all - none of the above got the national scrutiny that he's getting. One story from that bastion of leftist rhetoric the LA TIMES even. Tsk tsk tsk. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #14 April 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhat's really objectionable is the PR campaign being put out by Frist stating that Ds are against "people of faith." The politically motivated Christians in this country are starting to sound worse that Al Quaeda. Nice - I almost had a coronary from the irony in those two sentences. Please tell me that was a joke. No joke. I have nothing against anybody practicing their religion. But if you listen to some of the drivel coming out of the political elements of the "religious right" its pretty scary. "We have to take back the judiciary because they're a threat to our way of life!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #15 April 15, 2005 QuoteNo joke. I have nothing against anybody practicing their religion. But if you listen to some of the drivel coming out of the political elements of the "religious right" its pretty scary. "We have to take back the judiciary because they're a threat to our way of life!" OK, so what you are saying then is that "we aren't really against people of faith, we just think that Christians involved in politics sound like terrorists who kill by the thousands." Did I get that right?--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #16 April 15, 2005 No that's not what I said. I made two observations: 1) the religious right is feeling "persecuted" by Democrats (those heathens), and 2) their political rhetoric is getting a little inflamed. When I compared them to Al Quaeda I was making a figurative comparision, not a literal one. My apologies for the misperception. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tink1717 2 #17 April 15, 2005 Nepotism is not news.Skydivers don't knock on Death's door. They ring the bell and runaway... It really pisses him off. -The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!) AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS#8808 Swooo 1717 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #18 April 15, 2005 I see. You should be careful with such inflamed political rhetoric. It may contribute towards making someone feel persecuted.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #19 April 15, 2005 There are a few groups that say politics and political actions are "a threat to our way of life" - usually there are two groups that say that on every single high profile issue (one from each side) so which are perfectly reasonable and which are militant and overreactive? I'll give you a hint (the side you agree with is always reasonable and the one you disagree with are Al Quaeda and Nazi-like. At least mostly on this board. That's why it's fun the peruse) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,109 #20 April 15, 2005 >But if you listen to some of the drivel coming out of the political >elements of the "religious right" its pretty scary. "We have to take >back the judiciary because they're a threat to our way of life!" That would seem to put them more on a level with the Taliban than with Al Qaeda. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #21 April 15, 2005 Quote>But if you listen to some of the drivel coming out of the political >elements of the "religious right" its pretty scary. "We have to take >back the judiciary because they're a threat to our way of life!" That would seem to put them more on a level with the Taliban than with Al Qaeda. They're all thugs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,109 #22 April 15, 2005 >They're all thugs. So are some right wing extremists. But Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization dedicated to, well, terror. The Taliban was a government based on religious fundamentalism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckbrown 0 #23 April 15, 2005 Quote>They're all thugs. So are some right wing extremists. But Al Qaeda is a terrorist organization dedicated to, well, terror. The Taliban was a government based on religious fundamentalism. No, I think AQ is an organization devoted to ridding the Muslim world of "infidels." They are not an organization that is engaged in terror for it's own sake. They are using violence to achieve their political ends. They may be more violent that the Taliban, but they each strive for the same result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #24 April 15, 2005 I'm a conservative and Delay annoys the piss out of me. He makes conservatives look really bad.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #25 April 15, 2005 OK, I usually keep my cool but.......... YOU HAVE TO BE F&%KING KIDDING!!!! First off, the way the story is written is a crime. "Wraped in his Christian values," is at best inflamitory. Let someone write a story that starts something like this. "Wrappen in his egnostic (sp?) values......" Do the research. What DeLay is being accused of in not illeagal to begin with. Then add to the fact that the Pelosi is being accused of the same thing only on a much bigger scale (and what she did is not illegal) but you hearn nothing of it in the news. Add to that the accusation of Bagdad Jim Jeffers (sp?) And what he is being accused of may be illegal, and nothing of that is in the news.????? I say, KICK ASS DeLay! You Rock man! The left is desperate and I love it!!! ...by the way, I have had plenty to drink "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites