Nuke em!

[Skyrad 0]

So I was wondering, If the US decided to go to war against North Korea, China or Iran. Is there any senario in which you would support a pre emptive nuclear strike. Please comment either way.

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[Kennedy 0]

Real time warning that they've pushed the button and are in the process of launching, yes, I'd support a strike. Other than that, leave the armageddon button alone.

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[billvon 3,120]

> Real time warning that they've pushed the button and are in the
>process of launching, yes, I'd support a strike.

So would it be safe to say you'd be against a pre-emptive strike but in favor of a defensive strike?

[Skyrad 0]

What if your missiles wouldn't impact until after their missiles were launched? Would you still want them launched?

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[Kennedy 0]

Do I strike you as someone who will ever go quietly into that good night?

Seriously, if I were in a "give the order" position, yes, I'd launch if someone else launched at the USA.
(you kinda have to say that - deterence only works if you both fear each other. you know, that whole mutually assured destruction thing)

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[Skyrad 0]

So pre emptive not defensive. LOL...And I get the impression that you'd rage agaisnt the dying light.

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[Kennedy 0]

You're both right. I wouldn't push the button first, or even mention using nukes to other countries, but if anyone started launching, you're damn right you'd see some "rocket's red glare."

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[jdhill 0]

The short answer is no...

US policy is to only use nukes if they, or other NBC weapons are used against us, and if NBC weapons are used against us, we will use nukes in response... I support that policy...

If they try to slime us, or shoot a nuke at us, we should make them glow...

I would not see a strike in response to a launch as pre emptive.

J

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[rushmc 23]

Pre emptive??? Nuke?
Ya, there probably is a scenario. But it would have to be a doosy!!!

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[Botellines 0]

pre-emptive strike is just a term made up for the circumstances in Irak. I wouldn´t support my country attacking any other country in any way based on paranoia.
Now, if they attacked first, that would be a diferent thing. But as it has been pointed out, that wouldn´t be pre-emptive.

[sfzombie13 324]

i can't think of a good reason for a pre-emptive strike, and it takes a lot for me to go along with a defensive strike, but i probably would.

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[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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Real time warning that they've pushed the button and are in the process of launching, yes, I'd support a strike. Other than that, leave the armageddon button alone.

would it be from the same source that told GW there was WMD in Iraq?

No. Never. Use. The. Nuke. Ever. No exceptions....

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[Kennedy 0]

No, I'm talking "missiles in Cuba" level of evidence, not "see that fuzzy blip, that's a chemical plant, and that splotch, that's a stockpile" level.

But yes, I'd launch in retaliation. Afterall, if I'm in a command-decision position, I've got a well stocked bunker somewhere.

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[BenHall 0]

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pre-emptive strike is just a term made up for the circumstances in Irak. I wouldn´t support my country attacking any other country in any way based on paranoia.
Now, if they attacked first, that would be a diferent thing. But as it has been pointed out, that wouldn´t be pre-emptive.

Well then you better tell the Israelis to re-name what they did to Egypt and Syria!! A lot, and I mean a LOT of bloodshed was avoided by their pre-emptive strike.

[nanook 1]

Even Dylan Thomas would say "Nuke Em!!"

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[Skyrad 0]

There was also alot of talk of Pre emptive strikes duing the cold war.

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[Ron 10]

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No. Never. Use. The. Nuke. Ever. No exceptions....

So if you saw American cities being blown apart you would do nothing?

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So I was wondering, If the US decided to go to war against North Korea, China or Iran. Is there any senario in which you would support a pre emptive nuclear strike.

PRE-EMPTIVE? No. Nukes are terrible for offensive operations.

A nukes best use is as a deterrent.

But if I saw them being launched against us, I would strike back with equal force.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[jdhill 0]

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I would strike back with equal overwhelming force.

Fixed it for ya... that has, afterall, been the policy for years.

J

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

[mnealtx 0]

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I would strike back with equal overwhelming force.

Fixed it for ya... that has, afterall, been the policy for years since the beginning.

J

Fixed that for ya....

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[ChasingBlueSky 0]

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So if you saw American cities being blown apart you would do nothing?

Why bother? You are dead anyway?

Besides - if you really want revenge, let them launch as many as they want. They will suffer a worse fate - the destruction of the food chain, long term disease and a drawn out death, a collapse of their economy, the fall of their gov't, etc. Those who die first will be the lucky ones.

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[Ron 10]

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Why bother? You are dead anyway?

Isee you would rather just give up...

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[jdhill 0]

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Fixed it for ya... that has, afterall, been the policy for years since the beginning.

Actually, the policy for a long time was a response "in kind and scope" meaning that if nuked we would respond with a nuke of similar size, on a similar target, if chemed, we would respond with a similar chem, on a similar target... it was changed when we swore off the use of lethal chemical weapons,to being a purely nuclear response not necessarily limited in its nature.

J

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

[billvon 3,120]

>I see you would rather just give up...

Attitudes like this led to a recent battle that kept a feeding tube in a woman for 15 years. Sometimes the battle can be won even though the war is lost, and often those battles are not worth fighting.

[mr2mk1g 10]

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Fixed it for ya... that has, afterall, been the policy for years since the beginning.

Since the beginning of what?

It's only the last 100 years or so that the US has actually had the capacity to do anything like respond with overwhelming force against a great many of the worlds nations.

[Ron 10]

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Attitudes like this led to a recent battle that kept a feeding tube in a woman for 15 years

Yeah, imagine if Mike had given up.

Imagine if Washington had given up.

Quitters never win, and the best you can do at times is go down with a fight.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334