Accused serial bomber Eric Rudolph agrees to plead guilty to all charges against him in exchange for a life sentence

[BillyVance 35]

Just got a CNN news bulletin in my email...

Most of you might remember Eric Rudolph as the Birmingham abortion clinic bomber. He was also suspected in the Atlanta Olympics bombing and a Atlanta nightclub bombing as well...

I have no details with me, go to www.cnn.com for the news.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[TypicalFish 0]

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Just got a CNN news bulletin in my email...

Most of you might remember Eric Rudolph as the Birmingham abortion clinic bomber. He was also suspected in the Atlanta Olympics bombing and a Atlanta nightclub bombing as well...

I have no details with me, go to www.cnn.com for the news.

Isn't this the piece of shit who set the second bomb at one of his attacks, to catch the emergency responders to the first one?

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[BillyVance 35]

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Isn't this the piece of shit who set the second bomb at one of his attacks, to catch the emergency responders to the first one?

I don't recall him doing that specifically. I just don't know... I know he was on the lam, hiding in the mountains outside of Murphy, N.C. for 5 years after the Birmingham, AL bombing. Wasn't until a rookie cop caught him scrounging for food through the trash behind a grocery store early one morning.

Now that he's going to get life in prison, hopefully without parole, my hope is that he'll spend it in a maximum security prison in the general inmate population. He'll be dead in less than a year. Somebody'll beat or stab him to death. If I understand prison inmate sociology correctly, they take a very dim view of convicts who hurt, maimed, raped or killed women and/or children.

Remember Jeffrey Dahmer, the cannibal? Dead in less than a year in prison, beat to death by fellow inmate. Also, the defrocked Catholic priest sent to prison in Massachusetts, I think, for molesting children years ago... stabbed to death not long after beginning prison sentence....

I may be cold-hearted, but the less tax money spent on these types of inmates without them escaping or getting out alive, the better.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Skolls081102 0]

I don't think you are cold hearted at all. Hopefully you're right, and he will get killed within the first year. Then this piece of shit will have gotten what the courts should have imposed.
I'd much rather see him dead, than to have to spend a dime in tax money to feed, shower, and keep him medically ok.

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[EBSB52 0]

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I don't think you are cold hearted at all. Hopefully you're right, and he will get killed within the first year. Then this piece of shit will have gotten what the courts should have imposed.
I'd much rather see him dead, than to have to spend a dime in tax money to feed, shower, and keep him medically ok.

Sounds like something Eric Rudolph would say. I don't mean that to incite and don't honestly disagree with you, but I think we should rise above that kind of thinking, because that's what guys like Rudolph would want.

The court is imposing a sentence that is wise. Oklahoma spent over 4 million dollars to get nothing on Nochols. They can't afford that, but the poor kids will go w/o medical thanks to vengence w/o reward. It's done, this kook doesn't get to testify to espouse his Christian-based crap about being a messenger of God, which I suspect he thinks he is. Furthermore, he gave them the location fo 250lbs of exposives that can't hurt anyone now. It's a win-win for all but the retributionists.

Now, how about Richard Jewel, the security guard that was for a long time wrongly accused of the Atlanta bombing.? Do you see how aggresive the system is in trying to hang people, guilty or not? Police and prosecutors find it embarrasing to have a bad guy out there, so if they can make society believe that any old guy is the bad guy, then they have the spot filled and they're happy. So when someone advocates heavy punishments and strict prosecutions w/o any real appeal, they are advocating innocent people being wrongly convicted.

[EBSB52 0]

Now how about the aspect that no one seems to be talking about; the religious right and their fanatics. I realize this didn't come directly from the church, but tell me when abortion clinics were bombed that the Christian right didn't cheer just a little bit, if even quietly inside.

And now I will be bombarded with replies asking how the hell I could tie this to the Christian church. OK, now use that same logic with the Christian right's feeling on the attack and capture of Saddam. Its the same scenario:

Rudolph is to the Christian right::
as OBL is to the Muslims or Iraq.

Rudolph and OBL are affiliates to their repsective causes, but outside players in the actual sense. But the US went after Saddam as if to convolute the entire group of entities as if they were all complicit. With that same logic we could now blame the American Christian church for the bombings, right?

I know that no Christian right wingers will agree and claim "thread drift," but what I've written is an analagous test of identical logic with the right wing yielding opposite results. Conclusion: right wing utilizes flawed, subjective logic.

[Jimbo 0]

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tell me when abortion clinics were bombed that the Christian right didn't cheer just a little bit, if even quietly inside.

None that I know.

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Conclusion: right wing utilizes flawed, subjective logic.

Don't forget to include the left in there, too. Hell, anyone trying to advance an agenda generally does exactly that.

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[EBSB52 0]

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tell me when abortion clinics were bombed that the Christian right didn't cheer just a little bit, if even quietly inside.

None that I know.

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Conclusion: right wing utilizes flawed, subjective logic.

Don't forget to include the left in there, too. Hell, anyone trying to advance an agenda generally does exactly that.

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Jim

None that I know.

None that would openly admit, maybe.

Don't forget to include the left in there, too. Hell, anyone trying to advance an agenda generally does exactly that.

OK, I gave an example, an analogy to support my point; can you give me examples or analogies that support your contention?

[78RATS 0]

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Police and prosecutors find it embarrasing to have a bad guy out there, so if they can make society believe that any old guy is the bad guy, then they have the spot filled and they're happy.

Step one: Embarrassed - Bad guy out there.

Step two: Make society believe any old guy is the bad guy.

Step three: Happiness.


Thanks. Obviously been doing it the hard way. This seems much easier and more fullfilling.

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[BillyVance 35]

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I don't think you are cold hearted at all. Hopefully you're right, and he will get killed within the first year. Then this piece of shit will have gotten what the courts should have imposed.
I'd much rather see him dead, than to have to spend a dime in tax money to feed, shower, and keep him medically ok.

Well, the update is that it appears that so far, the Feds found the 250 pound cache of explosives that Eric hid, and blew it up. Now, the Feds want to go after whoever helped Eric with food and supplies as well as helped him hide.

They haven't said whether Eric has provided that info to them. That area of North Carolina understandably has a grudge with the Feds going back decades with the battle over the moonshiners.

After watching a program on TV last night about what life is like in one of the most dangerous prisons in the country, they definitely are not kind to sex offenders and women/children maimers/killers. I'd think Eric would want to bargain for a safe place away from the other inmates.

Personally, I'm all for letting him get his ass reamed, maybe once a week for the rest of his life. That's plenty of punishment... he'll get so sick of it that he'll hang himself or provoke some other inmate to kill him.

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[happythoughts 0]

In 1999, the CDC estimates that there were over 850,000 abortions in the US.

Many anti-abortion activists compare that to the slaughter of innocent people by Hitler. Difference being, Hitler only killed an estimated 6 million.

So, the logic is similar to that of Schindler's List. You can't save them all, but you can save a few.
"If you could kill one of Hitler's henchmen and save 10,000 innocent lives, would you do it?"

That is the logic behind bombing abortion clinics or killing doctors.

I would assume that the killing of doctors is equaling appalling as abortion to those of the Christian right. I haven't had any discussion of the topic with either side, but I doubt that you base your assertion on a discussion with someone of the Christian right either.

[BillyVance 35]

Just saw an article in today's newspaper, saying that Eric Rudolph is likely destined to spend his prison days at the supermax prison, called Administrative Maximum facility, in Colorado. This prison is 10 years old and basically was designed for inmates once held at the U.S. Penitentiary in Marion, Ill, which was the prison that replaced Alcatraz.

Rudolph could spend the rest of his days alone on "bombers' row" in a barren sound-proofed white cell with a concrete bed. The most dangerous, violent and escape-prone inmates are sent there. They only get about an hour out of their cells for recreation.

Anyway, did anybody read the lengthy statement that Rudolph made in court when he pled guilty? What a fucking prick! I hope he's dead before the year is over! Proud of his bombings? Geez, let's see how proud this SOB is after he's been fucked in the ass or beaten to a pulp! The hell with him.

Other inmates held there are: The Unabomber Ted Kaczynski, Oklahoma City bombing accomplice Terry Nichols, shoe bomber Richard Reid, 1993 WTC bombers Ramzi Yousef, Eyad Ismoil and El Sayyid Nosair, federal judge murderer Charles Harrelson (Woody Harrelson's father, I shit you not), and former FBI agent and spy Robert Hanssen...

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[DrunkMonkey 0]

Billy-got a link for that?

[BillyVance 35]

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Billy-got a link for that?

Yup, it took a little while to find one... here's the link, it's his actual manifesto, scanned into pdf format, and is 12 pages long including the cover page.

http://ap.washingtontimes.com/specials/interactives/_national/rudolph_statement.pdf

"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban

[Gravitymaster 0]

The only thing missing is a sentence of hard labor. I'd love to see all violent criminals doing hard physical labor until the day the die old and lonely in a prison having had their entire lives to think about what they did.

[mnealtx 0]

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The only thing missing is a sentence of hard labor. I'd love to see all violent criminals doing hard physical labor until the day the die old and lonely in a prison having had their entire lives to think about what they did.

Definitely agree....

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