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He's a troll.



Troll troll troll! Troll troll troll! Troll troll troll! Troll troll troll! Troll troll troll! Troll troll troll! Troll conspiracy theoriest troll! Troll troll troll! Troll troll troll! Troll troll troll!

There. Now it must be true.


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I'm outta line?



You have trolled him (posting something to elicit a response):
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Can I become a Third Class Citizen? I've been a Second and First Lieutenant, and a Captain. A "TCC" sounds like fun, a return to the bottom of the pile, kinda like Russel Crowe in "Gladiator."



That had nothing to do with his post, but you latched on to it.

You have flat out attacked him:
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You seem to be nursing the mother of all victim complexes, on serveral fronts...



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You know, after reading this thread, Narcimund really came up with an interesting troll, while at the same time feeding his victim complex...



This has nothing to do with the post, only the poster.
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Get over yourself. You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everyone else.



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It's your incessant whining and "woe is me" victim complex that makes your existence extremely irritating.



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But that doesn't excuse his being so irritatingly whiny.



I am the LAST guy a person would think to *defend* someone from attack, but all of your posts have been nothing but trolls themselves (the U2 over Mini me was quite funny however).

Never forget Narcimund hates me and has said EXACTLY that in these forums.

And I still think you are being hard on him and attacking him not his post.

You of course are free to ignore me, or ask me to bring pie.

You seem to be a smart guy and it might be fun if you provided an opinion about his thought instead of attacking him.

I personally think he is WAY off, and yes I think he is attacking Tuna since Tuna is not here to defend himself. I think his very post is an attack.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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I think he is attacking Tuna since Tuna is not here to defend himself. I think his very post is an attack.



Hmm. I suppose it could be seen that way. Advancing a theory that a poster is paid might fall under the rules about 'attacks', but it's unclear. Perhaps we'll get some guidance from an authority.

On the other hand, I DID advance the theory once while he WAS here to defend himself and he declined to. His reasons could have been innocent or not. We don't know.

Now you're suggesting that discussion about someone should stop when they stop posting. Would that prohibition also hold when someone is banned (and thus no longer here to defend themselves?) It seems like that would be good manners, but are you suggesting it should be a formal rule as well?


First Class Citizen Twice Over

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I think if he wa getting paid, it had to be the libs doing it, because this seems like the only result he could have expected from his belligerent posts:

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To make all the folks voting for Bush look like nut jobs.



That's exactly what he did for me. He really made me feel that way about conservatives. And if that wasn't his intent, I sure hope he knows that was his effect on people. [:/]

So maybe Narcimund's not too far off, but if I was a conservative, I wouldn't pay Tuna for a goddamn thing.

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I think if he wa getting paid, it had to be the libs doing it, because this seems like the only result he could have expected from his belligerent posts.



I think this is absolutely hilarious and entirely possible!


First Class Citizen Twice Over

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Hmm. I suppose it could be seen that way. Advancing a theory that a poster is paid might fall under the rules about 'attacks', but it's unclear. Perhaps we'll get some guidance from an authority.



It also is a minor issue. My whole point of the last few posts is that DM is I think out of line with the attacks. I posted my thoughts that it could be considered an attack from your original post since they show how I understand his side.

There is no secret that you have no love for Tuna or myself due to our views...I can live with that. Your original post could be seen as an attack if he was here or not. I think you are more likely to bring it up since he is not here is my thinking.

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On the other hand, I DID advance the theory once while he WAS here to defend himself and he declined to. His reasons could have been innocent or not. We don't know.



This I did not know. So maybe you would have posted it if he was here. But it was his right then not to discuss his reasons just as you in the past have refused to discuss things with me.

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Now you're suggesting that discussion about someone should stop when they stop posting



Not at all. My post was in (are you ready for this?) defense of you since all DM has done is attack you, not your idea. Like I said I mentioned how your initial post could be seen as an attack as well...You even agreed that it could be.

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Would that prohibition also hold when someone is banned (and thus no longer here to defend themselves?) It seems like that would be good manners, but are you suggesting it should be a formal rule as well?



I have not suggested anything other than DM to give an opinion and not just attack you.

I don't have an opinion on your "attack" other than it could be seen as one.

I did have an opinion on your idea, and wrote about that already.

I don't think he was a paid person. I think he got banned and then found a life off these forums.

His motivation for posting I am sure is no different that yours...You both (and I) have opinions and agenda.

How silly would it sound if I said you were getting paid by some organization for the advancement of gay rights?

I don't doubt that there are people doing what you say....And Tuna has a "smoke and mirror" quality about him that could make him suspect.

But I tend to think that the way he did his "job" would have done more damage than good and therefore not likely.

He didn't win people over, and he didn't try to.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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Ron,

I know 90% of your posts' content was about a different topic. but it was all addressed to someone else. There didn't seem to be any reason for me to respond to that material.

But I did find your suggestion that my original post was an 'attack' to be interesting and worth discussing.

So rest assured that I don't need to be reminded about the primary content of your posts just because I only responded to one relatively minor point which happened to be the only one that really involves me.


First Class Citizen Twice Over

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It's funny how Narci now ignores postings he does not like. Selective perception must be fun.



No, I ignore posts which are simply chastising you. I actually liked them quite a lot!

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Newsflash: No one cares about your sob story.



You seem to care a lot since you keep responding to everything I write even when it has nothing to do with you.


First Class Citizen Twice Over

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>I suppose it could be seen that way. Advancing a theory that a
> poster is paid might fall under the rules about 'attacks', but it's
> unclear.

Generally better to err on the side of caution. Rules against personal attacks DO apply to people who have been banned, people who haven't posted in a while, or people who appear to have skipped town. Keep in mind we have a contingent of people here in the military; some may well be absent for months or years from these forums.

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But I did find your suggestion that my original post was an 'attack' to be interesting and worth discussing.



OK. It seems you are saying that Tuna only posted the things he did since you claim he was paid. It could be seen as an attack and you agreed.

Now do I think it was something that would piss a normal person off? Nope. But it did piss someone off.

*even that could be seen as an attack if you like.

So your post was not a direct attack. Thats pretty clear.

And like I said I only brought it up to show that I did understand more about this than just the surface.

I am quite surprized that no mods have arrived. I have seen plenty of attacks in the last few days in several threads by several posters that would have gotten me banned before....I wonder if the mods are feeling OK:P


Again, I don't think you were attacking him, but it could be seen that way...either way it effects me none.

In truth I just wanted to be balanced while I defended you from blatant attacks.
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

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What happened to Peaceful Jeffrey? I was wondering where he got to...




He's here and posting in BonFire:)



Actually he's been permanently banned from speakers corner. If you want details, ask billvon. I only remember Jeffrey was very pissed off and felt he got the short end of the stick (he wasn't the only on staring at the fork)
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I think if he wa getting paid, it had to be the libs doing it, because this seems like the only result he could have expected from his belligerent posts:



If this is true, then the libs did a lousy job in recruiting. As a Conservative Republican, TP's posts generally made me cringe.

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As a Conservative Republican, TP's posts generally made me cringe.



As a Conservative Republicanreasonable and thoughtful person, TP's posts generally made me cringe.

fixed it for you...

TP was one of the folks I was thinking of when I wrote my "little radar" thread :P

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To make all the folks voting for Bush look like nut jobs.



That's exactly what he did for me. He really made me feel that way about conservatives.



Well, if we're correcting unfair generalizations of groups, here's one.

"That's exactly what he did for me. He really made me feel that way about TunaPlanet the individual"

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But the problem is, he didn't. And a couple of other people helped contribute to my view of conservatives as nutjobs (mainly during the election), but he really went out of his way to make himself a representation of the whole group.

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I don't buy it. Why? Economics.

If the Repubs did have money to pay people to try and influence opinions, they wouldn't waste their time here in this tiny little audience. They would spend their effort elsewhere where it would reach the maximum audience.

That logic alone says you're wrong.



Similarly, if I were going to pay someone to argue on my behalf, I'd hire someone who would do a good job of it. Tunaplanet got backed into too many corners to be a professional.

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I don't buy it. Why? Economics.

If the Repubs did have money to pay people to try and influence opinions, they wouldn't waste their time here in this tiny little audience. They would spend their effort elsewhere where it would reach the maximum audience.

That logic alone says you're wrong.



Similarly, if I were going to pay someone to argue on my behalf, I'd hire someone who would do a good job of it. Tunaplanet got backed into too many corners to be a professional.

Blues,
Dave



Which would tend to reinforce the belief that if he was hired as a shill, it would have had to have been a liberal. :D

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