Under attack by the intelligent and educated

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pet first, once they're a little bit older, you bang em ... .and once they're too loose, you eat em.

that's using all the parts of the animals .... the indians would be proud.

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[DrunkMonkey 0]

To hug, rub, pet, and name "George."

[EricTheRed 0]

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Couldn't the same argument be made for religion though? Only difference is we won't find out until after we die.

How can you test a religion?

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[SkyDekker 1,465]

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How can you test a religion?

exactly my point, you won't know the answer until after you're dead.

[jdfreefly 1]

In reply to, "?? You can. It's done all the time.", I would have to say I dissagree. Whenever I take a dissenting opinion on this issue, I am invariably met with this kind of a comment, "How can an educated intelligent man like yourself, in this day and age, not believe in evolution?"

I often wonder if people asked Galileo how he could not believe that the Sun revolved around the Earth.

To be honest, it isn't that I don't believe in evolution, it is that I don't agree with the entire theory as it stands now, and, I really like playing the devil's advocate, especially on this subject. I do not hold as fact that all life on this planet originated from one original source that spontaneously came into existence. I do not hold as fact that apes and us have a common ancestor. I am not saying it isn't possible, I'm just saying I'm holding out for more proof.

I agree with you that some of the advances and discoveries of the past 10 to 20 years are very exciting. In fact, what I am really waiting for is how it will shake things up when they find life on Mars. Not evidence of past life, actual living organisms. That is something I think is quite possible, and I may see it in my lifetime.

I certainly do not believe that we should be teaching in science class that all life came into existence on this planet over the course of seven days.

Methane Freefly - got stink?

[billvon 3,131]

>Whenever I take a dissenting opinion on this issue, I am invariably
> met with this kind of a comment, "How can an educated intelligent
> man like yourself, in this day and age, not believe in evolution?"

I think it might be how you're phrasing it. Saying you don't believe in evolution is like saying you don't believe in physics. Someone can drop a fork and prove you wrong. But if you say "I don't believe Darwinian selection accounts for all the diversification after the K-T extinction" and people will take you a lot more seriously.

>I often wonder if people asked Galileo how he could not believe
>that the Sun revolved around the Earth.

I'm sure they did. People place a lot of faith in what religion teaches them; it can take decades to get over such misinformation.

I've always thought that Giordano Bruno was the best poster child for religious 'alteration' of science BTW. A much more interesting story than Galileo's.

>I do not hold as fact that apes and us have a common ancestor. I
> am not saying it isn't possible, I'm just saying I'm holding out for
> more proof.

So would it be accurate to say that you're agnostic on the issue?

Check out "the ancestor's tale" by Dawkins if you get a chance. It may answer a lot of questions. Or it may raise more in your mind, but it will give you an overview on current thinking on that subject.

[jdfreefly 1]

And you should read Darwin's Radio by Greg Bear, asuming you haven't.

Not the best writing, but some interesting ideas on mechanisms driving evolution.

Methane Freefly - got stink?

[billvon 3,131]

>And you should read Darwin's Radio by Greg Bear, asuming you haven't.

I did. Interesting concept, but I think Occam's Razor applies there.

[EricTheRed 0]

<-----Testing religion, one day at a time.

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