SkyDekker 1,465 #26 March 28, 2005 so, guns are dangerous. thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #27 March 28, 2005 Quote so, guns are dangerous. thanks. Nice. There are a shitload of dangerous things in this world. Ban everything that's dangerous and make everyone wear helmets when doing anything but laying in bed. These discussions amaze me sometimes, the absolute lack of common sense and complete lack of respect for people's rights. (Of course I'm talking about those rights as given to a US citizen in the US).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #28 March 28, 2005 QuoteMaybe we should ban engineers since they screw up as well? Yeah, right... When you pry my cold dead fingers from my keyboard. Even then, I'll sneak into dark places and do calculus. Or even use spreadsheets to overcomplicate things like planning trips and stuff. POWER TO THE NERDS (dekker - a pointy stick is dangerous in the wrong hands. It's certain hands that concern me, not the pointy stick, not the gun.) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #29 March 28, 2005 QuoteYeah, right... When you pry my cold dead fingers from my keyboard. Even then, I'll sneak into dark places and do calculus. Or even use spreadsheets to overcomplicate things like planning trips and stuff. That is quite honestly one of the funniest things I've every read in SC, ever! --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #30 March 28, 2005 never said they should be banned, though societies generally agree that dangerous things should be regulated for the greater good of that society. With the reference to the pointy stick, many forms of knives are regulated as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #31 March 28, 2005 Quotethough societies generally agree that dangerous things should be regulated for the greater good of that society. You're not going to make me make a list of very dangerous things that aren't regulated to the anti-rights extent that firearms have been and continue to be lobbied for. There is nothing in the bill of rights reguarding other items deemed dangerous (except maybe religion).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #32 March 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteBan engineers and you'll have no clean water supply, no sewage systems, no medical equipment, no pharamceuticals, no cars, trucks, bikes, airplanes, parachutes, guns, bridges, electricity supply, batteries, light bulbs, computers, window glass, railroads, roads, TV, radio, helicopters, newspapers, internet, tractors, harvesters, pesticides, fertilizers (except dung). No steel, aluminum, polymers, composites. No central heating or air conditioning. No oil or coal. Florida, Arizona and California would be essentially uninhabitable. Yes, I can see that would be preferable to a society with no guns. Ban guns and the murder rate will climb. I mean if even the police and the Army didn't have guns...wow what kaos would happen then huh? Maybe it will climb all the way down to the murder rate in Britain, France, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, Spain, Ireland, Denmark, Japan or Germany.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #33 March 28, 2005 Quote never said they should be banned, though societies generally agree that dangerous things should be regulated for the greater good of that society. Here is a post form last week QuoteMake them illegal, except for some very specific uses under very controlled conditions. Get rid of your second amendmend, triple the price with taxes on both guns and ammo That's getting pretty close to a ban if you ask me. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #34 March 28, 2005 ahhh yes, selective quotes. You may want to include the question that your selected quote was the answer to. If some one asks you to explain how you would go about killing some one and you answer the question, that does not make one a killer, well at least not to vast majority of people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #35 March 28, 2005 Quotebut Joh, does this mean you agree that guns are dangerous when not used properly? Everything is dangerous when not used properly. Ever read the warning label on a hair dryer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumper03 0 #36 March 28, 2005 Quotenever said they should be banned, though societies generally agree that dangerous things should be regulated for the greater good of that society. With the reference to the pointy stick, many forms of knives are regulated as well. One of the most dangerous things is information. How hard should information be regulated?Scars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #37 March 28, 2005 Can you quote what you want for me, I have know idea what your talking about. I did not as as far as I know selective quote in the sense that I was trying to mislead. I simply quoted what I thought were contradicting statements. ediited to add: Just to make SkyDekker happy here is the question he was responding to, in which I quoted him. I have know idea how that changes the context though. QuoteHow do you reduce the number of easily available guns then? That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #38 March 28, 2005 QuoteQuote Remove the guns, and you would have a similar or greater chaos than that from removing engineers. Tell you what. I'll go without a gun for the whole of 2005 if you'll go without fresh water, sewers, electric power, anything powered by oil or natural gas, you only eat organic food, and you use no shampoo or commercially produced soap. Then we'll see who got on better at the New Years boogie.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #39 March 28, 2005 I love you, Kallend! *Disclaimer* I don't believe guns should be banned, but.... I find it funny how often you'll hear people talk about how guns should be handled with care yet how frequent they are handled carelessly.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrunkMonkey 0 #40 March 28, 2005 QuoteI find it funny how often you'll hear people talk about how guns should be handled with care yet how frequent they are handled carelessly. The same can be said for automobiles... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #41 March 28, 2005 Quote The same can be said for automobiles... Then why do people often say, "Drive it like it's stolen!!!!"?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrunkMonkey 0 #42 March 28, 2005 QuoteQuote The same can be said for automobiles... Then why do people often say, "Drive it like it's stolen!!!!"? Hmmm....might be why criminals don't bother to fet a FOID or otherwise legally acquire their guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #43 March 28, 2005 QuoteTell you what. I'll go without a gun for the whole of 2005 if you'll go without fresh water, sewers, electric power, anything powered by oil or natural gas, you only eat organic food, and you use no shampoo or commercially produced soap. Then we'll see who got on better at the New Years boogie. You mean live on the DZ for a year? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,175 #44 March 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteTell you what. I'll go without a gun for the whole of 2005 if you'll go without fresh water, sewers, electric power, anything powered by oil or natural gas, you only eat organic food, and you use no shampoo or commercially produced soap. Then we'll see who got on better at the New Years boogie. You mean live on the DZ for a year? Skydive Chicago doesn't count.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DrunkMonkey 0 #45 March 28, 2005 The end result of this entire debate is that no one will truly ever disarm America. The debate is set up to have nutjobs on either end, keeping each other in check. I have friends who live in Chicago who keep all but their pistols within the city, the rest being out, due to Fuhrer Daley. People like Dr Kallend will be kept in check by AggieDave, and vice-versa. In the middle are the rest of us who just don't want the government overly fucking with us. This thread should be taken out behind the toolshed and shot in the base of the skull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Vallerina 2 #46 March 28, 2005 QuoteIn the middle are the rest of us who just don't want the government overly fucking with us. I can see both sides. It's a weak argument to say that guns aren't a problem if people treat them with respect, however. Many people (yes, even licensed and trained gun owners) don't treat them with respect. The skydiving analogy is still good here....people who treat their canopy with respect...have the experience and training to jump it, well, they still screw up and do things that they shouldn't. It happens. It's always going to happen. Even people saying that you need to treat a gun with respect have probably screwed up at some point much like experienced skydivers who instruct have probably screwed up at some point.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #47 March 28, 2005 QuoteThis thread should be taken out behind the toolshed and stabbed in the base of the skull with a sharp stick. fixed it ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AggieDave 6 #48 March 28, 2005 QuotePeople like Dr Kallend will be kept in check by AggieDave, and vice-versa. In the middle are the rest of us who just don't want the government overly fucking with us. Woohoo, I'm a nutjob! I better build a compound and start telling people I'm the messiah. Then I'll start building a large cache of weapons just incase. hehehe This is a fun birthday, between SC getting out of control and getting some quality work done in the garage today, its been great.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #49 March 28, 2005 It's a very contentious day, check out the Shaivo post. happy birthday ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kelpdiver 2 #50 March 28, 2005 Quote Tell you what. I'll go without a gun for the whole of 2005 if you'll go without fresh water, sewers, electric power, anything powered by oil or natural gas, you only eat organic food, and you use no shampoo or commercially produced soap. Then we'll see who got on better at the New Years boogie. But you can't do that in Chicago, where you still benefit from the guns that the police carry, or even within US borders, where you benefit from the guns that the military carries. So not much of a promise, unless you're willing to spend the year in a max security prison, or perhaps in the tundra with the polar bears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 Next Page 2 of 6 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Vallerina 2 #39 March 28, 2005 I love you, Kallend! *Disclaimer* I don't believe guns should be banned, but.... I find it funny how often you'll hear people talk about how guns should be handled with care yet how frequent they are handled carelessly.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #40 March 28, 2005 QuoteI find it funny how often you'll hear people talk about how guns should be handled with care yet how frequent they are handled carelessly. The same can be said for automobiles... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #41 March 28, 2005 Quote The same can be said for automobiles... Then why do people often say, "Drive it like it's stolen!!!!"?There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #42 March 28, 2005 QuoteQuote The same can be said for automobiles... Then why do people often say, "Drive it like it's stolen!!!!"? Hmmm....might be why criminals don't bother to fet a FOID or otherwise legally acquire their guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #43 March 28, 2005 QuoteTell you what. I'll go without a gun for the whole of 2005 if you'll go without fresh water, sewers, electric power, anything powered by oil or natural gas, you only eat organic food, and you use no shampoo or commercially produced soap. Then we'll see who got on better at the New Years boogie. You mean live on the DZ for a year? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,175 #44 March 28, 2005 QuoteQuoteTell you what. I'll go without a gun for the whole of 2005 if you'll go without fresh water, sewers, electric power, anything powered by oil or natural gas, you only eat organic food, and you use no shampoo or commercially produced soap. Then we'll see who got on better at the New Years boogie. You mean live on the DZ for a year? Skydive Chicago doesn't count.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrunkMonkey 0 #45 March 28, 2005 The end result of this entire debate is that no one will truly ever disarm America. The debate is set up to have nutjobs on either end, keeping each other in check. I have friends who live in Chicago who keep all but their pistols within the city, the rest being out, due to Fuhrer Daley. People like Dr Kallend will be kept in check by AggieDave, and vice-versa. In the middle are the rest of us who just don't want the government overly fucking with us. This thread should be taken out behind the toolshed and shot in the base of the skull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #46 March 28, 2005 QuoteIn the middle are the rest of us who just don't want the government overly fucking with us. I can see both sides. It's a weak argument to say that guns aren't a problem if people treat them with respect, however. Many people (yes, even licensed and trained gun owners) don't treat them with respect. The skydiving analogy is still good here....people who treat their canopy with respect...have the experience and training to jump it, well, they still screw up and do things that they shouldn't. It happens. It's always going to happen. Even people saying that you need to treat a gun with respect have probably screwed up at some point much like experienced skydivers who instruct have probably screwed up at some point.There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #47 March 28, 2005 QuoteThis thread should be taken out behind the toolshed and stabbed in the base of the skull with a sharp stick. fixed it ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #48 March 28, 2005 QuotePeople like Dr Kallend will be kept in check by AggieDave, and vice-versa. In the middle are the rest of us who just don't want the government overly fucking with us. Woohoo, I'm a nutjob! I better build a compound and start telling people I'm the messiah. Then I'll start building a large cache of weapons just incase. hehehe This is a fun birthday, between SC getting out of control and getting some quality work done in the garage today, its been great.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #49 March 28, 2005 It's a very contentious day, check out the Shaivo post. happy birthday ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #50 March 28, 2005 Quote Tell you what. I'll go without a gun for the whole of 2005 if you'll go without fresh water, sewers, electric power, anything powered by oil or natural gas, you only eat organic food, and you use no shampoo or commercially produced soap. Then we'll see who got on better at the New Years boogie. But you can't do that in Chicago, where you still benefit from the guns that the police carry, or even within US borders, where you benefit from the guns that the military carries. So not much of a promise, unless you're willing to spend the year in a max security prison, or perhaps in the tundra with the polar bears. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
