5-Year-Old Cuffed, Arrested in Florida

[justinb138 0]

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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - A 5-year-old girl was arrested, cuffed and put in back of a police cruiser after an outburst at school where she threw books and boxes, kicked a teacher in the shins, smashed a candy dish, hit an assistant principal in the stomach and drew on the walls.
The students were counting jelly beans as part of a math exercise at Fairmount Park Elementary School when the little girl began acting silly. That's when her teacher took away her jelly beans, outraging the child.
Minutes later, the 40-pound girl was in the back of a police cruiser, under arrest for battery. Her hands were bound with plastic ties, her ankles in handcuffs.

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Under the district's code of student conduct, students are to be suspended for 10 days and recommended for expulsion for unprovoked attacks, even if they don't result in serious injury. But district spokesman Ron Stone said that rule wouldn't apply to kindergartners.


"She's been appropriately disciplined under the circumstances," he said.


The girl's mother, Inda Akins, said she is consulting an attorney.


"She's never going back to that school," Akins said. "They set my baby up."

Ugh......

[lawrocket 3]

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The girl's mother, Inda Akins, said she is consulting an attorney.


"She's never going back to that school," Akins said. "They set my baby up."

She could probably also be quoted as thinking:

"Those pigs. My baby girl didn't do nuthin. It was entrapment. Yeah, that's the ticket! The school knew that if they gave her jellybeans she'd get silly, and they knew that if the jellybeans were taken she'd go ballistic.

"Her father, if I ever find out who he is, would also be outraged."

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[ahegeman 0]

I'm surprised they didn't Taser her also.

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[Jib 0]

"They set my baby up"?
She should be asking why she has a little monster that freaked out over nothing and police, not school officials, thought it was necessary to restrain both her hands and feet.

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the depth of his depravity sickens me.
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[Botellines 0]

LMAO...

When I was 5 years old my mother took me to a restaurant, and then this guy there started making faces at me, i guess just pretending to be funny. Well, I went berserk and kick him in the shin, started screaming and throw a plate of soup at my mother. Pretty much what that girl did. I took me quite a while to calm down, and still to this day my mother sais that i neve have embarrased her as much as that day. . Needless to say we had to leave the restaurant.
Good thing my mother didn´t call the police.

[jeiber 0]

Or...

"Dem pigs always be harassin' my baby girl, and she never do nothin' wrong. Da po po always be givin' us a hard time. It's a 'conspicuasy', I's gonna sue every one a dem fer dis. I should be able to get at least a thousand dolla!"

Seriously though, I have a hard time believing the cops just came to a school and restrained a five year old without good reason. Unless this is Mayberry, where there's nothing else to do, there's got to be more to this story...

Instead of consulting an attorney, maybe mom should spend the money on a counselor to find out why her child is acting this way.

Just a couple circumstances that I'm wondering if the media left out to make the story juicy:

Mother could not be contacted, child too destructive and unruly to keep on school grounds. Cops restrained her only to prevent child from injuring self, until mother could be found.

Child has a history of disrespecting authority. Educators were tired of the mothers inaction and general lack of discipline towards child, and used opportunity to show the child (and mother) that there will be repercusions to future actions.

Of course there is the possibility the media actually wrote an accurate description of the events, presenting all the facts, and not trying to stir up controversy in order to sell papers. After all, we can trust the media with skydiving stories, so why can't we trust them with everything else they write.

Personally, I think they should have used pepper spray! That way, any time the little miscreant starts acting up in class again, the teacher can just pull a little can of spray out, and ask, 'ya want some of this?!'.

Shhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring!

[DrunkMonkey 0]

...Another dipshit who considers school a taxpayer-subsidized daycare system, only there to make the kid feel good about themselves.

Newsflash: School can suck ass at times. It does (and should at times) make you question your existence/abilities. From that pain comes growth.

Life is tough. Get a goddamn helmet.

[Skolls081102 0]

Hey maybe the kid has ADD!!!
Seriously though, I'm sure what was done was necessary.
DrunkMonkey has it right- it's really sad to see that parents no longer can control their children, and instead turn to the schools to raise their children. Parents need to start taking responsibility for their own short-comings, and realize that they're doing a shitty job of raising their children.

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[kallend 2,151]

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Hey maybe the kid has ADD!!!
Seriously though, I'm sure what was done was necessary.
DrunkMonkey has it right- it's really sad to see that parents no longer can control their children, and instead turn to the schools to raise their children. Parents need to start taking responsibility for their own short-comings, and realize that they're doing a shitty job of raising their children.

Temper tantrums are a fact of life with infants. Has nothing to do with parenting. This was likely a simple temper tantrum, and an absurd over-reaction.

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[tigra 0]

Of course I wasn't there, but I have to agree. Maybe the kid is an out of control monster, but its hard to believe they couldn't handle a small child's temper tantrum any differently.

[Skolls081102 0]

Unless of course this was an ongoing thing- day in day out, this kids misbehaving, throwing things, kicking teachers, etc.... I'm not saying that happened, but I find it hard to believe that a school would call the police to arrest a 40 pound 5 year old on her first temper tantrum.
And rather than the parent lawyering up, why don't they take a look at themselves and ask "Why did my child have such a violent tantrum to jelly beans being taken away from her?" I'm not saying that children don't throw tantrums. There seems to be more to this story that we don't know....

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[lawrocket 3]

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Temper tantrums are a fact of life with infants. Has nothing to do with parenting. This was likely a simple temper tantrum, and an absurd over-reaction.

This didn't sound like some ordinary temper tantrum. Throughout my entire school life I NEVER saw a tantrum from a student like that.

What are the odds that throwing stuff, kicking people and smashing things are activities the little girl sees at home.

Still, I cannot get over the line, "They set my baby up."

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[Botellines 0]

For god´s shake, it is only a 5 years old girl. I would be assamed if i was a teacher and i had to call the police to calm her down. And i would be even more embarrased if i was a police officer and i had to cuff hands and legs of a 5 year old girl.
Come on guys, what is next? the police shooting her down because she was a threat to the police officer well being?

[lawrocket 3]

Hmmm. I suppose they should have given her a hug and said, "Good learn!"

I suppose they should have given her the jellybeans back.

I suppose that everybody else who was involved except the girl should have "senisitvity training" so as to not set others up.

The poor girl didn't do anything wrong, did she?

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[tigra 0]

I HOPE there is more to the story, but its probably just as much a case of "bad teachering" as bad parenting. A kindergarten teacher who can't deal with a 5 year old's tantrum without calling the police really needs to look into a new line of work.

[Botellines 0]

I am sure that the little spoiled brat is a real pain in the ass, and probably the parents are somewhat responsible of her behaviour, but i think you are forgetting that it is a 5 years old girl whom we are talking about. And you cannot expect any kid that age to be neither responsible nor rational.

If handcuffing a 5 years old girl is apropiate, then the natural progression would be a pepper spray at 7, a tazer at 9 and a .38 bullet in her head at 11.
Seriously, i cannot believe that the only way was to handcuff her or call the police for that matter.

[christelsabine 1]

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For god´s shake, it is only a 5 years old girl. I would be assamed if i was a teacher and i had to call the police to calm her down. And i would be even more embarrased if i was a police officer and i had to cuff hands and legs of a 5 year old girl.
Come on guys, what is next? the police shooting her down because she was a threat to the police officer well being?

Should I laugh or should I cry? A little girl, and nobody is really able to help her out of that outburst? Send the teacher home. What a shame to everybody involved.

Now I start to understand why guns are required by so many. If people cannot even deal with a 5 y/o, how to deal with the adults?

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[christelsabine 1]

The poor girl didn't do anything wrong, did she?

[Skolls081102 0]

The unfortunate thing is this- Nobody knows what happened in that classroom. At least nobody here knows. You could be right- the teacher could have overreacted, and the cuffs were way overboard.
But then again, she could have been a true danger to herself, and ALL of the other students in that classroom. For whatever the reason is, maybe that little girl couldn't be controlled by the teacher, and if that meant that the only way to quiet her down was to restrain her, that's fine with me.
Fact is, they didn't hurt that little girl, and she didn't get to hurt anyone else.

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[lawrocket 3]

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She's still not more than a young dog hunting big cars.

Wrong. Clearly there is more at work here. Did any of the other kids lose it like this? Regardless of whether shackling a 5 year-old is appropriate, her behavior was inappropriate. PERIOD!

2 year-olds get punished for that behavior, right? Mothers and fathers give corporal punishment.

Obviously, there is much going on here. The teacher couldn't control the kid without probably resorting to some kind of violence. Enough time transpired for the following to occur:

1) Kid erupts and teacher attempts, but ultimately decides that teacher cannot control kid;
2) Call is made to assistant prinicpal, who proceeds to classrooom;
3) Assistant prinicpal attempts to control child and figures out he cannot;
4) Call is made to police;
5) Police attempt to control the child and finally do.

How many other kids in that classroom could that kid have hurt. It was unreported whether the child did, but think about throwing books in a room full of 5 year-olds. Smashing things in a room full of 5 year-olds.

Kicking teachers and assistant principals. This transpired over a period of minutes, people. This isn't some short 20 second spurt, or else the assitant principal wouldn't be implicated.

Apparently, only the teacher and assistant principal had any type of injury. The girl was restrained. Threat neutralized with no physical harm to child, and threat of physical harm to the other children is neutralized.

Okay, here's a question for all you Monday morning quarterbacks:

"Since reasoning clearly did not work, what steps would you have taken to ensure that this child did not harm herself or other 5 year-olds?"

Or, you can asnwer this one: "Should the kid be left to do what she wants until she tires herself out?"

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Your post is surprising me a little bit.

If my kid pulls shit like that, I may end up making a few stops on the way to the police station to get him. We'll likely be making a few stops on the way back home, too.

Yeah, you caring sorts out there don't seem to give a rat's ass at what is happening to the other 30 kids in the classroom as this is going on, or what could occur.

I hope the other parents sue the asses off of Momma Akins...

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[Skolls081102 0]

At least someone agrees with me.

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[Trent 0]

It's a real shame that they had to use police to control the girl... but think about it. They may not have had a choice.

When I was in 4th grade, my teachers had had enough of my shit at some point and sent me to the office. Once I got there the principal had me bend over a chair and proceeded to go to work with the paddle. It wasn't that bad, but it hurt enough to make me not want to do it again. Lesson learned, ass whippings hurt, don't be a little bastard or it'll happen again. In my parents day... the teacher would've whipped me right then and there.

TODAY, teachers can't even escort a student to the office with a firm grip on their arm without being sued. Punishing students is almost forbidden to the point that teachers almost have to call a lawyer when making any sort of punishment. THAT is the problem.

So before blaming the cops and teachers, think about what kind of lawsuits there would be if the teacher, or anyone from the school, had just dealt with the brat. It's sad and stupid that she had to call the cops to discipline the kid, but it might not be entirely her fault that the educational environment at schools here has made people so afraid of lawsuits that we can't discipline kids when their parents refuse to.

Oh, hello again!

[lawrocket 3]

One more thing:

Who is protecting the rights of the other kids in the classroom? The teacher and the assistant principal.

Who is protecting all of their rights? The police.

That girl does not have the right to hurt others, despite her age. The other kids have the right to protection from those acts. Police provide that protection.

Stripped to its core essentials, police were not in the business of violating that little girl's rights. They were in the business of protecting others from her, as well as protecting the girl from herself.

Tell me I'm wrong...

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[justinb138 0]

The part I find most disturbing is that she blames the school instead of her kid (who obviously has issues), and immediatly gets a lawyer.

Had the school officials done anything to physically stop/restrain her, the mother would be getting a lawyer anyway.

Given the circumstances, I think they made the right choice.

[christelsabine 1]

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She's still not more than a young dog hunting big cars.

Wrong. Clearly there is more at work here. Did any of the other kids lose it like this? Regardless of whether shackling a 5 year-old is appropriate, her behavior was inappropriate. PERIOD!

2 year-olds get punished for that behavior, right? Mothers and fathers give corporal punishment.

Obviously, there is much going on here. The teacher couldn't control the kid without probably resorting to some kind of violence. Enough time transpired for the following to occur:

1) Kid erupts and teacher attempts, but ultimately decides that teacher cannot control kid;
2) Call is made to assistant prinicpal, who proceeds to classrooom;
3) Assistant prinicpal attempts to control child and figures out he cannot;
4) Call is made to police;
5) Police attempt to control the child and finally do.

How many other kids in that classroom could that kid have hurt. It was unreported whether the child did, but think about throwing books in a room full of 5 year-olds. Smashing things in a room full of 5 year-olds.

Kicking teachers and assistant principals. This transpired over a period of minutes, people. This isn't some short 20 second spurt, or else the assitant principal wouldn't be implicated.

Apparently, only the teacher and assistant principal had any type of injury. The girl was restrained. Threat neutralized with no physical harm to child, and threat of physical harm to the other children is neutralized.

Okay, here's a question for all you Monday morning quarterbacks:

"Since reasoning clearly did not work, what steps would you have taken to ensure that this child did not harm herself or other 5 year-olds?"

Or, you can asnwer this one: "Should the kid be left to do what she wants until she tires herself out?"

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Your post is surprising me a little bit.

If my kid pulls shit like that, I may end up making a few stops on the way to the police station to get him. We'll likely be making a few stops on the way back home, too.

Yeah, you caring sorts out there don't seem to give a rat's ass at what is happening to the other 30 kids in the classroom as this is going on, or what could occur.

I hope the other parents sue the asses off of Momma Akins...

Holy Moses, what was that? A complete indictment?
A five years old little girl is charged with beeing danger to 30 others of same age, her teacher(s), the entire school, her home town: Only the sheriff and his equipment can solve that terrible situation.....? It's so sad but, I prefer to LMAO.

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