ryoder 1,590 #1 March 11, 2005 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&ncid=578&e=4&u=/nm/20050311/ts_nm/security_spain_fatwa_dc"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #2 March 11, 2005 interesting...a public division in the muslim community. i think they have finally done, in the public forum, what many rational muslims have thought in private for quite a while now."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #3 March 11, 2005 This what the Islamic community needs to be doing. They need to speak up when crimes are being commited in the name of Islam. To not say anything is to encourage these criminals to continue what they are doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #4 March 11, 2005 "We declare ... that Osama bin Laden and his al Qaeda organization, responsible for the horrendous crimes against innocent people who were despicably murdered in the March 11 terrorist attack in Madrid, are outside the parameters of Islam," the commission said. I wonder if the above has any significance in being specific about the March incident but not the World Trade Center. {not likely - and it is just a cut - but cynicism abounds here} In any case, it's about time at least one group has the courage to stand up against those others giving them an unfair bad name. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markd_nscr986 0 #5 March 11, 2005 Good for them........ Now maybe other Muslim organizations will come forward and take a stand against the Wahabbis and UsamaMarc SCR 6046 SCS 3004 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #6 March 11, 2005 How thoughtful of them! Now if they would only also decry the events of Sept 11, 2001, it would show some sincerity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 March 12, 2005 You mean like this? [URL]http://atheism.about.com/b/a/128216.htm[/URL] [URL]http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm[/URL] [URL]http://www.freemuslims.org/[/URL] [URL]http://www.maat.r8.org/[/URL] [URL]http://www.globalsecurity.org/security/library/news/2004/04/sec-040406-rferl01.htm[/URL] [URL]http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm[/URL] [URL]http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0%2C2763%2C1182818%2C00.html[/URL] [URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3586703.stm[/URL] I'm sick of ignorant Islamophobic attitudes like the ones expressed here.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #8 March 12, 2005 >interesting...a public division in the muslim community. I don't know a single muslim who supports Bin Laden. Have you met anyone who supports him? >i think they have finally done, in the public forum, what many rational >muslims have thought in private for quite a while now. You must have a very low opinion of muslims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #9 March 12, 2005 QuoteI wonder if the above has any significance in being specific about the March incident but not the World Trade Center. i thought about that for a second but, hey, it's a step in the right direction."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #10 March 12, 2005 QuoteYou must have a very low opinion of muslims. huh? whatever."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #11 March 12, 2005 This is Spainish Muslims addressing Al Q attacks on Spain on the anniversary of those attacks, sorry to break it to you but the world does exist outside of your country, and it doesn't revolve around it either.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #12 March 12, 2005 hate to tell ya, you broke nothing."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #13 March 12, 2005 Glad to hear it.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #14 March 12, 2005 QuoteI don't know a single muslim who supports Bin Laden. Have you met anyone who supports him? Yes, I know a good many of them. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #15 March 12, 2005 I'm sick of ignorant Islamophobic attitudes like the ones expressed here. Wow! I'm impressed! Did you just invent that word? Islamophobics? I'll file that one in the shitcan along with homophobic, etc. Sorry, I'm not afraid of people, I just detest some of them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kmcguffee 0 #16 March 12, 2005 QuoteI'm sick of ignorant Islamophobic attitudes like the ones expressed here I'm sorry. I guess things like this: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003065.php should not color people's attitudes toward Muslims. Until the major Muslim leaders follow the Spanish Muslim leaders and condemn all terrorism, without resorting to twisted conspiracy theories like this: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25995 they are going to be subject to major criticism and are going to suffer Islamophobic attitudes. I invite you to look at some of the teachings of Abu Hamza, a major Muslim leader in the UK. http://www.shareeah.org/eqna/article.php?id=003&pt_sid=72b6d49dbc280eaccf7cf8fc27231935 http://www.shareeah.org/eqna/article.php?id=002 http://www.shareeah.org/eqna/article.php?id=022 The main web site is here http://www.shareeah.org/2.html for your surfing pleasure. I know a lot of Muslims who will condemn the Muslim community as a whole for allowing this crap to go on for as long as it has. As far as knowing a Muslim that supports UBL; let me iintroduce you to one: QuoteDespite British authorities canceling a similar convention entitled “The Magnificent 19 [Suicide Attackers]” last year, Bakri is pushing forward again with a convention this year saying this years convention will be worth the international criticism of his organization celebrating 9/11 and that it will be “a simple sacrifice in comparison with what we must actually do - that is, support the Jihad led by bin Laden.”. You can also look at this links site: http://www.shareeah.org/links/index.html which will direct you to many nice Muslim teachings. Pay special attention to the Muktab al-jihad (book of Jihad) site. You can also get to the Hamas site where they describe the "Termination of the Zionist Entity" as detailed in the Koran. http://www.hamasonline.com/indexx.php?page=Qassam/termination_zonist_entity From that site: Quote That is why no deviant nation has been Cursed by Allah more than that of the children of Israel. They truly earned the Wrath and Resentment of Allah, and thus they have lost all the factors of survival and existence. There is a lot more. "Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Ben Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #17 March 12, 2005 QuoteThis is Spainish Muslims addressing Al Q attacks on Spain on the anniversary of those attacks, sorry to break it to you but the world does exist outside of your country, and it doesn't revolve around it either. I think they are very brave to make these statements. Hope they are prepared for reprisals.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #18 March 12, 2005 Good for them! Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botellines 0 #19 March 12, 2005 QuoteHow thoughtful of them! Now if they would only also decry the events of Sept 11, 2001, it would show some sincerity Do you realize today was the first aniversary of the bombing? why would they mention the twin towers? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #20 March 12, 2005 QuoteDo you realize today was the first aniversary of the bombing? why would they mention the twin towers? yes, we realize that this is the anniversary of the subway bombing in spain. the reason he mentioned the twin towers is because the towers were the impetus for the spain bombing. osama attacked the U.S., we retaliated, spain backed our position, the subway got blown up. moreover, the life lost in the subway is akin to the life lost in the trade centers: innocent. i think that what he was saying was that it's fine that the spanish muslims have come this far in condemning the subway attack but, it would have been nice if they had joined america in condemning terrorism back when the work to rid the world of terrorism (at least in afghanistan and iraq) was being done."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #21 March 12, 2005 QuoteI don't know a single muslim who supports Bin Laden. Have you met anyone who supports him? I have met quite a few of them lately and they all seem to be coming from pakistan(with hold your shock). I will caveat that by saying the majority of Muslims here do not support UBL or the TB but are looking for a Gov't that will represent them and provide for them. Kind of hard to do when your still living in the 14th century world materialy and culturally. We have talked to people in remote areas who still thought the Russians were here."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #22 March 12, 2005 Abu Hamza is not a major muslim leader in Britan or anywhere else for that matter. He was kicked out of the Mosque where he spouted his hate filled message and he and his sick little group have been attcked on the streets by British Muslims who want nothing to do with him or his hate filled ideas. He is currently sitting in prison.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #23 March 12, 2005 Subway? It was three overland trains.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #24 March 12, 2005 Your post is as representative of Muslims as this one is of Americans. [URL]http://www.kkk.com/[/URL] Americans can't be trusted as they are all racist thugs who hate anyone who is not white and not American. It pisses me off that you all have the cheek to breath without appologising for your crimes against the innocent people of the world. 9/11 was a small amount of deaths compared to the murder of inocent civilians that America has committed before and after 9/11. [URL]http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm[/URL] Guess they don't count as they are not American or white. You Americans are all the same and should all appologise to the world everyday of your sick hate filled lives.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 March 12, 2005 QuoteYou Americans are all the same and should all appologise to the world everyday of your sick hate filled lives. Kettle...... Quote I'm sick of ignorant Islamophobic attitudes like the ones expressed here. meet pot...... Dude, can you just go get laid or something?? You're a bit....wound..... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites