Remember the old Gun Control Saying

[Kennedy 0]

They'll never ban your hunting rifle...
...they'll call it a sniper rifle first.

Well, it's true.

***Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.) is one of the most irrationally anti-gun members of the U.S. House of Representatives. For example, in 1993, when the House voted 424-4 to require a law enforcement agency to explain to a person why it rejected that person`s handgun purchase under the former federal waiting period law, Moran was one of the four who voted against the measure. In Moran`s mind, anyone who wants to buy a gun doesn`t deserve to be treated fairly.

Today, Moran is doing the anti-gun lobbies` bidding on one of their latest gun-ban schemes. On February 8, he introduced H.R. 654, which he calls the ".50 Caliber Sniper Rifle Reduction Act." As with other "gun control" bills, the name doesn`t accurately reflect the bill`s fine print. The bill:

Bans all .50 caliber hunting rifles. It invents the term, ".50 caliber sniper weapon," and then defines it to include any rifle "capable of firing a center-fire cartridge in 50 caliber, .50 BMG caliber, any other variant of 50 caliber, or any metric equivalent of such calibers." In addition to rifles that use the venerable .50 Browning cartridge, many other .50 caliber rifles would fall under that broad definition. Such rifles, all designed and/or widely used for hunting, were invented between the 1860s and 1970s.

Requires gun registration of all lawfully-owned .50 caliber rifles. The bill would subject all .50 caliber rifles to the National Firearms Act (NFA), to regulate them in the same way as machine guns.

Bans manually-loaded rifles - single-shots, double rifles, pump-actions, and bolt-actions. Most .50 caliber rifles, including .50 Brownings, are of manual-loading type. Single shots hold only one round of ammunition, double rifles hold two, and pumps and bolt-actions hold only a few.

Prohibits a lawful owner of a .50 caliber rifle from selling it. The bill would allow a current owner to keep his rifle, if he registers it with BATFE under the provisions of the NFA. But the bill would prohibit selling a lawfully-owned .50 caliber rifle to anyone, despite the strict controls of the NFA, which include an FBI background check on a prospective buyer.

Prohibits a lawful owner from passing a .50 caliber rifle to a family member as part of an inheritance. The prohibition on subsequent transfer has no exceptions.

Sets the stage for an even wider gun ban. If guns can be arbitrarily banned according to the mere diameter of the bullet, what is to prevent banning guns that use smaller bullets than .50 caliber? The anti-gun group that conceived the idea of a ban on .50 caliber rifles has already proposed banning .30 caliber rifles as "intermediate sniper rifles." International gun-ban activist Rebecca Peters has even proposed banning rifles that can shoot 100 meters--;that is, all rifles, since all rifles can shoot that distance.

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[aerohaga 0]

Bans manually-loaded rifles - single-shots, double rifles, pump-actions, and bolt-actions. Most .50 caliber rifles, including .50 Brownings, are of manual-loading type. Single shots hold only one round of ammunition, double rifles hold two, and pumps and bolt-actions hold only a few.



ANY manually-loaded rifle?? Guess I'd better learn to re-load pretty darn quick.

For my part, I know nothing with any certainty,
But the sight of the stars makes me dream.
-Vincent Van Gogh

[mr2mk1g 10]

Just remember what I told you - it's not an "assult pistol" till you're able to take out a tank with one.

[TomAiello 26]

Does that include black powder?

-- Tom Aiello

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[jdhill 0]

Just remember the other one... they can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers...

J

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke

[justinb138 0]

When is the last time someone used a .50 rifle to murder anyone?

I don't remember a whole lot about it, but weren't the guys that were shooting people from the trunk of their car a year or two ago using a .223?

[Bdog 0]

the bill is an ingenious solution to a non existant problem.

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[justinb138 0]

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the bill is an ingenious solution to a non existant problem.

the gov't seems to be pretty good at those.

[markd_nscr986 0]

***Just remember the other one... they can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead fingers...

Yep...........that sums it up!

Marc SCR 6046 SCS 3004

[DrunkMonkey 0]

If I call a hammer I buy at Sears a "Sniper Hammer," will Congresscritter Moran try to ban it?

[mnealtx 0]

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Mike
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[beowulf 1]

I don't think so. The article specified center fire.

[kelpdiver 2]

People hunt with .50s? I thought those were most [commonly] used for very long range accuracy - dime sized targets at absurdly long distances. Pretty big and expensive guns to use for hunting.

[Kennedy 0]

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It invents the term, ".50 caliber sniper weapon," and then defines it to include any rifle "capable of firing a center-fire cartridge in 50 caliber, .50 BMG caliber, any other variant of 50 caliber, or any metric equivalent of such calibers." In addition to rifles that use the venerable .50 Browning cartridge, many other .50 caliber rifles would fall under that broad definition. Such rifles, all designed and/or widely used for hunting, were invented between the 1860s and 1970s.

"any other variant of 50 caliber, or any metric equivalent of such calibers"

I don't know if that line would include blackpowder guns or not. I haven't read the proposed bill yet, so who knows? It wouldn't surprise me if the fucktards representatives in WDC didn't bother to exempt them.

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[Kennedy 0]

There are a number of fifties other than the .50 BMG (the one you're thinking of).

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[sammer 0]

Wow. I hadn't heard about this one. I always assumed the .50 bans would be limited to the .50 BMG.

I am curious to see how they would word this one. It would be ridiculous if my .50 beowulfs were illegal and the .499 Leitner-Wise wasn't. Then there's the .50 AE pistol and the new S&W 500....

I just cannot imagine anyone ever calling the rifle below a "sniper rifle".

[Kennedy 0]

You're forgetting one thing...
Anti-gunners are stupid.

Keep that in mind and things will make much more sense.

ps - they're willing to lie, too.

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[sfzombie13 324]

this is one of the things i have been trying to warn people about for years, they start off with taking away one freedom, then another, etc......until pretty soon, we live in a world where you can read about freedom in a book, if you can get a copy of one (no doubt they're illegal also). what about the guy in japan who killed a couple of people with a knife a few years ago.....next thing you know, no more knives. whenever one group of people tell everyone else what they can't fo, it opens these doors that say they can take away everything. we all need to write representatives with petitions or just letters to stop the madness....

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[sammer 0]

This is all I can find on that bill: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h109-654

It does look to me like all rifles chambered for any kind of centerfire cartridge that is 50 caliber would be affected.

He is actually wanting to change the Gun Control Act of 1968 to lump these rifles in with the silencers and machine guns that section 922 already covers.

This bill was not very well thought out or researched. I doubt it's going anywhere, but I think that is all the excuse I need to go buy a BMG.

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Anti-gunners are stupid.

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