miked10270 0 #1 February 25, 2005 FUCKING IDIOTS!!!!![/B][/I]: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4299609.stm I sincerely hope that The Israeli & palestinian leaders can work through this. Perhaps withboth parties combining toward the removal of those elements of Islamic Jihad that were responsible. Mike. Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #2 February 25, 2005 people who attack others because they think their god thinks they should are the hardest to stop and the most dangerous. i hope that they can work this crap out but the reality of it is that because it only takes a few to ruin it, it probably will never be peaceful between the two. "Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #3 February 25, 2005 Quotepeople who attack others because they think their god thinks they should are the hardest to stop and the most dangerous. Ya know I often wonder what God they pray to and where they take their religious guidance from to feel that the way to His/Her heart is through mass-murder...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #4 February 25, 2005 Unfortunatly there will always be religious bigots and hate mongers in every religion. I hope the PA will be able to do something to save the peace.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #5 February 26, 2005 QuoteUnfortunatly there will always be religious bigots and hate mongers in every religion. I hope the PA will be able to do something to save the peace. And I hope Israel is willing to look past this. I suspect they will if the PA makes a sincere effort to deal with those responsible. If the PS doesn't, it's back to square one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #6 February 26, 2005 Quote And I hope Israel is willing to look past this. would you? QuoteI suspect they will if the PA makes a sincere effort to deal with those responsible. i don't want them to deal with those responsible, i want them to stop those who are planing the next terror attack. just "agreeing" with them without taking out their terror infrastructure is simply not enough. and as for Hezbollah's involevment, the address is syria and Iran, not only the PA. i went to sleep early last night, this is not the kind of news i wanted to wake up to O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #7 February 26, 2005 No so simple as you know. Due to history the extreamist groups don't just plan and conduct terror attacks in Israel but also run schools, hospitals and social infrastructure. Just as Sinn fien is inextricably linked with the PIRA so the fighters are to the civilian populations social infrastructure. Butfive arrests have been made already. I would be suprised if this would have been possible without serious involvement by the PA unless they were made in Israel. However do whatyou always do and you'll get what you've always got. Sending a aircraft up to blow the hell out of a civilian area or invading with tanks will just lead to more dead Palastinians and more greiving Jewish mothers. There has to be a beter way.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
falxori 0 #8 February 26, 2005 Quotethe extreamist groups don't just plan and conduct terror attacks in Israel but also run schools, hospitals and social infrastructure. i have no problem with that. but a social organization that runs schools doesnt need a private army and explosives labs, right? QuoteI would be suprised if this would have been possible without serious involvement by the PA unless they were made in Israel. there were made by Israel, not the PA. QuoteHowever do whatyou always do and you'll get what you've always got. i agree. so far, since the declaration of the cease fire several areas were handed back to the PA security forces, many road blocks have been lifted, more palestinian workers are allowed to work in israel and 500 prisoners (involved in minor terror acts or acts that failed) were released. the PA did do a few things, but they were very clear that they will not confront the armed groups directly. Israel is not likely to respond with force to this attack and will give the PA another chance, but our patience has its limits. i have no desire to "send an aircraft" anywhere, but for this process to move forward, there has to be one legal armed force there, not 5 different groups, each with its own agenda. not to mention that some are controlled by syria and Iran. i actually do believe that the current PA wants to maintain the peace. the question is whether they are ready to take control of their own people. O "Carpe diem, quam minimum credula postero." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #9 February 26, 2005 the thing that really bums me out is how the Isreali-Palestinian peace process can be sabotaged by the actions of one nutcase. (edited" i know there's more than one nutcase behind this, but still...) Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #10 February 27, 2005 I agree. The question is how to get to that posistion without destroying the PA and destabalizing the situation further. I hope and pray that a way can be found, for everyones sake.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #11 February 27, 2005 QuoteQuote And I hope Israel is willing to look past this. Quotewould you? If I thought reacting and retaliating immediately to the situation would destroy any chance of peace for a very long time, I would. QuoteI suspect they will if the PA makes a sincere effort to deal with those responsible. Quotei don't want them to deal with those responsible, i want them to stop those who are planing the next terror attack. As those responsible are very likely to be the same ones planning the next attack, I'd say dealing with those responsible would help prevent the next attack. Quotejust "agreeing" with them without taking out their terror infrastructure is simply not enough. I agree. This is an opportunity for the PA to show their determination and resolve for peace. Quoteand as for Hezbollah's involevment, the address is syria and Iran, not only the PA. i went to sleep early last night, this is not the kind of news i wanted to wake up to Hopefully, this will lead to the PA increasing it's Intel capabilities. It is a sad day. O Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
