EBSB52 0 #26 February 25, 2005 QuoteI have no problem,repeat NO PROBLEM with the death penalty for bottom feeding scum like this asshole. There is no doubt that he did this crime, he led the cops to the graves for crying out loud! Anyone that can kill a child deserves to not be taking up space and air on this planet. The cost of carrying out a death sentence is horrible, agreed. They should get one state appeal and one federal appeal after their conviction. Then kill em! Better hope he's not a member of this forum or that's a personal attack I'm joking Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #27 February 25, 2005 QuoteI didn't read the article, but if he confessed then just take him out back and shoot him and if not wait until trial is over and if found guilty then take him out back and shoot him....... I'm very sick of seeing people commiting such crimes and getting life..F that You mean like the confessions of suspents that are tortured into confessing? Think it doesn't still happen? The Louima case isn't that old. Those are emotional, knee-jerk reactions, which are easy to do, but it's nat rational to execute everyone that smells a little guilty knowing full well that many errors will be made. Furthermore, as people have written above, it degrades society when you promote killing people, even peoplelike this. Remember that thing your parents told you about lowering yourself to the low standards of others? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
03CLS 0 #28 February 25, 2005 I understand your point, but what about the people this asshole preyed on and killed...Where was their due process. I guess I like the death penalty, people will say yeah let him go to prison and rot, but none of them including me know what it is like when that final curtain comes down...done ranting I think it more degrading not to kill people of crimes like this... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #29 February 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteI have no problem,repeat NO PROBLEM with the death penalty for bottom feeding scum like this asshole. This is precisely the problem with most capital cases, the crimes involved are so horrific (victims are children, the elderly, pregnant women, on duty cops, etc.) that our judgement gets clouded. If the case is a hard one to solve, then sometimes ANYBODY will do. Like some stoned pot smoking drifter that nobody likes anyway. There are too many people on death row who don't belong there for the simple reason that they didn't commit the crime. "Innocent until proven guilty" is only on paper, anyone who's ever been arrested knows they're guilty unless proven innocent by either a really smart expensive lawyer or a sheer act of God. Yeah, I'd like to ice this guy too, but the way I feel about it isn't my best rational judgement. Lock him up and throw away the key, he probably will be ass fucked to death inside of six months anyway. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #30 February 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteI have no problem,repeat NO PROBLEM with the death penalty for bottom feeding scum like this asshole. If the case is a hard one to solve, then sometimes ANYBODY will do. Like some stoned pot smoking drifter that nobody likes anyway. There are too many people on death row who don't belong there for the simple reason that they didn't commit the crime. "Innocent until proven guilty" is only on paper, anyone who's ever been arrested knows they're guilty unless proven innocent by either a really smart expensive lawyer or a sheer act of God. Yeah, I'd like to ice this guy too, but the way I feel about it isn't my best rational judgement. Lock him up and throw away the key, he probably will be ass fucked to death inside of six months anyway. I didn't write that quote. I may have responded to it. This is precisely the problem with most capital cases, the crimes involved are so horrific (victims are children, the elderly, pregnant women, on duty cops, etc.) that our judgement gets clouded. I wouldn't that most capital cases involve these types of people. Men get murdered a whole bunch too. I wonder what the split is? I totally agree withthe rest of your statement, which is why much of the rest of the world has vacated the DP. As for drifters and the poor getting sent to death row, almost exclusive, which is why many of the rich like the DP; they feel it will deter those poor people from killing them, whne the truth is that rich people kil too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #31 February 27, 2005 QuoteI understand your point, but what about the people this asshole preyed on and killed...Where was their due process. I guess I like the death penalty, people will say yeah let him go to prison and rot, but none of them including me know what it is like when that final curtain comes down...done ranting I think it more degrading not to kill people of crimes like this... Well, with the writing of the 5th and 14th, Due process, a law obiding citizen carries no due process. In order to have Due Process there must be a process in the works, like an arrest and a charge. Now if you're using the term, "Due Process" as a metaphor for protection, then I see your point. However there is no guarantee for protection, which is why I want to live in a gun-loving state like AZ. I hate the politics, but love the unabridged lattitude to own a gun. but none of them including me know what it is like when that final curtain comes down Metaphor for afterlife. OK, so what does this have to do with what happens in life and if state-sponsored homocide is ok? I see that as a misdirection, although I respect your right to believe as you will about cap pun. Generally, when a person learns about all aspects of CP they usually turn around their position. Conservatives calls this the liberalizing of a person; truth is that it's eductaion of emotion. We can flash thousands of pictures of raped/murdered 10-year old girls and kill someone for it, but if we compound an injustice with another murder we have only become that same person that we were trying to remove. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
EBSB52 0 #30 February 25, 2005 QuoteQuoteQuoteI have no problem,repeat NO PROBLEM with the death penalty for bottom feeding scum like this asshole. If the case is a hard one to solve, then sometimes ANYBODY will do. Like some stoned pot smoking drifter that nobody likes anyway. There are too many people on death row who don't belong there for the simple reason that they didn't commit the crime. "Innocent until proven guilty" is only on paper, anyone who's ever been arrested knows they're guilty unless proven innocent by either a really smart expensive lawyer or a sheer act of God. Yeah, I'd like to ice this guy too, but the way I feel about it isn't my best rational judgement. Lock him up and throw away the key, he probably will be ass fucked to death inside of six months anyway. I didn't write that quote. I may have responded to it. This is precisely the problem with most capital cases, the crimes involved are so horrific (victims are children, the elderly, pregnant women, on duty cops, etc.) that our judgement gets clouded. I wouldn't that most capital cases involve these types of people. Men get murdered a whole bunch too. I wonder what the split is? I totally agree withthe rest of your statement, which is why much of the rest of the world has vacated the DP. As for drifters and the poor getting sent to death row, almost exclusive, which is why many of the rich like the DP; they feel it will deter those poor people from killing them, whne the truth is that rich people kil too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites EBSB52 0 #31 February 27, 2005 QuoteI understand your point, but what about the people this asshole preyed on and killed...Where was their due process. I guess I like the death penalty, people will say yeah let him go to prison and rot, but none of them including me know what it is like when that final curtain comes down...done ranting I think it more degrading not to kill people of crimes like this... Well, with the writing of the 5th and 14th, Due process, a law obiding citizen carries no due process. In order to have Due Process there must be a process in the works, like an arrest and a charge. Now if you're using the term, "Due Process" as a metaphor for protection, then I see your point. However there is no guarantee for protection, which is why I want to live in a gun-loving state like AZ. I hate the politics, but love the unabridged lattitude to own a gun. but none of them including me know what it is like when that final curtain comes down Metaphor for afterlife. OK, so what does this have to do with what happens in life and if state-sponsored homocide is ok? I see that as a misdirection, although I respect your right to believe as you will about cap pun. Generally, when a person learns about all aspects of CP they usually turn around their position. Conservatives calls this the liberalizing of a person; truth is that it's eductaion of emotion. We can flash thousands of pictures of raped/murdered 10-year old girls and kill someone for it, but if we compound an injustice with another murder we have only become that same person that we were trying to remove. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
EBSB52 0 #31 February 27, 2005 QuoteI understand your point, but what about the people this asshole preyed on and killed...Where was their due process. I guess I like the death penalty, people will say yeah let him go to prison and rot, but none of them including me know what it is like when that final curtain comes down...done ranting I think it more degrading not to kill people of crimes like this... Well, with the writing of the 5th and 14th, Due process, a law obiding citizen carries no due process. In order to have Due Process there must be a process in the works, like an arrest and a charge. Now if you're using the term, "Due Process" as a metaphor for protection, then I see your point. However there is no guarantee for protection, which is why I want to live in a gun-loving state like AZ. I hate the politics, but love the unabridged lattitude to own a gun. but none of them including me know what it is like when that final curtain comes down Metaphor for afterlife. OK, so what does this have to do with what happens in life and if state-sponsored homocide is ok? I see that as a misdirection, although I respect your right to believe as you will about cap pun. Generally, when a person learns about all aspects of CP they usually turn around their position. Conservatives calls this the liberalizing of a person; truth is that it's eductaion of emotion. We can flash thousands of pictures of raped/murdered 10-year old girls and kill someone for it, but if we compound an injustice with another murder we have only become that same person that we were trying to remove. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
