AMax 0 #1 February 21, 2005 A passion for hunting could be driven by many different reasons. But what's the most important, ultimate reason why you hunt? Ed to add thanks for voting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #2 February 21, 2005 You do not give up, right? I am looking forward... Christel dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #3 February 21, 2005 I hunt because I enjoy hunting If I want fun I'll take the kids to the park an feed the ducks. Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pajarito 0 #4 February 21, 2005 Should have been "multiple answers allowed." It's fun and it keeps balance in nature. It's called the food chain. We're part of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #5 February 21, 2005 Well the whole point was to identify the ultimate reason Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #6 February 21, 2005 Man I wish you had multipul answers allowed. I haven't been able to go hunting in a long time, but I enjoy it. 1. It keeps nature in balance 2. Its fun 3. I like the meat. 4. Its fun 5. I really like the meat. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #7 February 21, 2005 So if it was not fun and you couldn't use the meat you would still hunt because you care about the balance in Nature so much? If your answer is honest I am really impressed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #8 February 21, 2005 Quote I hunt because I desperately need that meet to feed myself and my family Good job of making sure you only give select answers so you can prove your point. I also fish though the ice up here in the winter. I freeze my ass of and I really don't enjoy it all that much. But I love fresh fish out of ice cold water. Do I desperately need it? No. Would I fish if I could not eat the meat? Hell no. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #9 February 21, 2005 QuoteQuote I hunt because I desperately need that meet to feed myself and my family Good job of making sure you only give select answers so you can prove your point. Well. What other options you suggest? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craddock 0 #10 February 21, 2005 I hunt for the meat. That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #11 February 21, 2005 QuoteI hunt for the meat. It is too late to include it now, but I agree that your point is valid. I did not exclude this option on purpose though ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kai2k1 0 #12 February 22, 2005 I hunt for the meat, the fun, and the tradition. My family has been hunting on the same 300 acres since the early 1950's. Its more of a tradition for me than anything else. There's no truer sense of flying than sky diving," Scott Cowan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #13 February 22, 2005 I like Aggie Dave's answer the best. Your poll is too restricted. I don't think any of us have an ultimate reason in mind when we go out hunting. Some might, but I feel I hunt for a variety of reasons. Dave about covered all of them....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #14 February 22, 2005 Your research methodology leaves a great deal to be desired. You may be good at the labcoat stuff, but your poll couldn't have been much more leading if you tried. I hunt for the healthier better tasting meat, the tradition, the love of the outdoors, to help keep the numbers of deer down (as there are far too many in the areas I hunt them, hence balance), and for the skill and challenge involved. I have to tell you, I enjoy it, but it isn't always fun. ** above is in no particular order If I had to pick one ultimate reason, it would be the connection to nature and tradition in the interaction.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #15 February 22, 2005 QuoteYour research methodology leaves a great deal to be desired. Actually, the methodology works just fine. I made a prediction in related tread and then created this poll. I am not denying that the poll is restricted, but it does confirm the prediction made earlier. Those who feel that their answers are not listed in this poll are not forced to vote, therefore, the data sample is not contaminated. In addition, I do not see a big difference between "hunting for fun" and "hunting for connection to nature" and the fact that you do not always have fun hunting does not mean that you do not do it for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 February 22, 2005 Quote So if it was not fun and you couldn't use the meat you would still hunt because you care about the balance in Nature so much? How would it not be fun? It maintains balance and hunting *is* fun. Its not like we have cattle going through the line getting hit by the pnumatic hammer. You've got to either have a truck with headlights and a horn or a 30-06 and a cold morning. Deer take over environments very quickly, then deer start starving to death due to over population, not to mention that the bucks can't mate because they get nervous with so many other bucks around (not kidding, look it up its true). Hunting is good for their population.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JctRsp 0 #17 February 22, 2005 i think it's different than normal "fun". I find it both relaxing and exhilarating. The relaxing part is being out in the woods quietly stalking an animal. In the not so fun method you're sitting in a stand and waiting bored. But once you catch sight of your intended animal and line up the shot, the blood is flowing and it's just an awesome feeling. So fun isn't what I'd describe it as, but it's the closest I could get. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #18 February 22, 2005 I used to get paid to do it. I was a licensed stalker.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #19 February 22, 2005 QuoteI used to get paid to do it. I was a licensed stalker. That's what my dad did for many years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #20 February 22, 2005 You missed an option. I agree that it is fun to hunt. I think that everyone that eats meat should, at least once, have to hunt, kill, and dress and eat their own kill. It really gives you a lot more respect for the food that you do eat. Unless it comes from a cow. No one can really respect a cowillegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #21 February 22, 2005 Quote the blood is flowing and it's just an awesome feeling. reply] I've hunted all my life, probably killed way more than I needed to, but these words kind of make me sick. Maybe it is the wrong choice of words. Your other comments made sense to me, but not this. I sure don't feel good about spilling another animals blood. If I did I'd go to work in a slaughter house. To tell you the truth I now usually let my wife or daughters pull the trigger because I don't enjoy that part of the hunt anymore.....Steve1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #22 February 22, 2005 I just read it as him saying his heart is beating strongly from the adrenaline... could be wrong though. Either way it could have perhaps been said more clearly to avoid confusion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AMax 0 #23 February 22, 2005 Quote Deer take over environments very quickly, then deer start starving to death due to over population, not to mention that the bucks can't mate because they get nervous with so many other bucks around (not kidding, look it up its true). Hunting is good for their population. I am not so sure. Yes, there are regions in US where deer is overpopulated. Hunting some of them down will probably not harm the population in terms of the numbers. There is however a danger of negative influence on genetic pool because elimination by hunting is SELECTIVE. The negative changes may not be obvious immediately but there no guarantee that genetic pool will not be altered in a long term scale. I sited the article in related thread. It did not impress Kennedy who is apparently a big expert, but I was very impressed because the study was done very well and the approach the authors used was quite modern and convincing. No wonder the study was selected by top scientific magazine that selects only very insignificant % of all manuscripts submitted fir publication. The authors studied a different specie but their results suggest that the problem of selective elimination could be more common. Lets not forget that all species (including us) were selected evolutionary and the elimination during evolution works by more unbiased manner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AMax 0 #24 February 22, 2005 Quote I've hunted all my life, probably killed way more than I needed to That’s exactly my point and that's exactly why I stopped. Edit to add. "Connection to nature" sounds like a plain BS to me. Want to be connected? Go hiking or chase that deer with a camera. Or is it killing that makes people feel conencted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,098 #25 February 22, 2005 >Deer take over environments very quickly, then deer start starving to > death due to over population, not to mention that the bucks can't mate > because they get nervous with so many other bucks around (not kidding, >look it up its true) Many species have such built-in protections (lack of breeding behavior, increased expression of homosexual behavior, fighting-to-the-death behaviors) against overpopulation. Nature provides some others, like disease and parasites. If we over-hunt a species (in other words, interrupt the cycle) we risk damaging or eliminating those safeguards. Ticks are icky and all, but if they all died out, deer overpopulation would become a more serious problem, since they carry pathogens that kill animals in an overpopulation situation. They spread like wildfire in dense, heavily stressed herds, so they are good at self-regulating their effects. Again, nothing wrong with hunting provided you don't mess too much with nature working the way it has for a few billion years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
mr2mk1g 10 #22 February 22, 2005 I just read it as him saying his heart is beating strongly from the adrenaline... could be wrong though. Either way it could have perhaps been said more clearly to avoid confusion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #23 February 22, 2005 Quote Deer take over environments very quickly, then deer start starving to death due to over population, not to mention that the bucks can't mate because they get nervous with so many other bucks around (not kidding, look it up its true). Hunting is good for their population. I am not so sure. Yes, there are regions in US where deer is overpopulated. Hunting some of them down will probably not harm the population in terms of the numbers. There is however a danger of negative influence on genetic pool because elimination by hunting is SELECTIVE. The negative changes may not be obvious immediately but there no guarantee that genetic pool will not be altered in a long term scale. I sited the article in related thread. It did not impress Kennedy who is apparently a big expert, but I was very impressed because the study was done very well and the approach the authors used was quite modern and convincing. No wonder the study was selected by top scientific magazine that selects only very insignificant % of all manuscripts submitted fir publication. The authors studied a different specie but their results suggest that the problem of selective elimination could be more common. Lets not forget that all species (including us) were selected evolutionary and the elimination during evolution works by more unbiased manner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMax 0 #24 February 22, 2005 Quote I've hunted all my life, probably killed way more than I needed to That’s exactly my point and that's exactly why I stopped. Edit to add. "Connection to nature" sounds like a plain BS to me. Want to be connected? Go hiking or chase that deer with a camera. Or is it killing that makes people feel conencted? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,098 #25 February 22, 2005 >Deer take over environments very quickly, then deer start starving to > death due to over population, not to mention that the bucks can't mate > because they get nervous with so many other bucks around (not kidding, >look it up its true) Many species have such built-in protections (lack of breeding behavior, increased expression of homosexual behavior, fighting-to-the-death behaviors) against overpopulation. Nature provides some others, like disease and parasites. If we over-hunt a species (in other words, interrupt the cycle) we risk damaging or eliminating those safeguards. Ticks are icky and all, but if they all died out, deer overpopulation would become a more serious problem, since they carry pathogens that kill animals in an overpopulation situation. They spread like wildfire in dense, heavily stressed herds, so they are good at self-regulating their effects. Again, nothing wrong with hunting provided you don't mess too much with nature working the way it has for a few billion years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites