Kennedy 0 #1 February 16, 2005 http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/m-n/maney/2005/maney021005.htm QuoteFinally, a place where people want to shoot from the hip February 10, 2005 by Russ Maney While I support an individual's right to bear arms, I'm not a gun person — not a hunter, never owned a gun. My wife is a decidedly "non-gun" person. So, with double-barreled naiveté and curiosity, we headed down to the semi-annual Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot in West Point, Ky. Strange choice for a Sunday afternoon's recreation? Call it a case of, "This we gotta see for ourselves." The basic idea is that owners of heavily-regulated, fully-automatic weapons can do there what they can't do most other places: open fire. As the license plates in the parking lot confirmed, people come from all over the country to blast away and network with fellow enthusiasts. On our way in, we passed an SUV towing a full-size and (apparently) fully-functional Civil War-era cannon. My wife whispered, "We're definitely not in Kansas anymore." Kansas no, Testoteroneville, definitely. As soon as we got near the main "upper range," we were strongly encouraged to purchase ear protection. As we did, I asked, "We're well back from the firing line. How loud can it be?" Just then, a horn sounded and all hell broke loose. (A well-worn cliché, but I've never seen or heard anything that fits it better.) The source of this controlled chaos was the most intimidating lineup of heavy artillery this side of Iraq: Gatling guns, M-60s, .50-caliber machine guns, M-16s, Uzis, machine pistols and a host of other lead-spitters I couldn't identify. All firing at once. There were guys standing, squatting and lying on their bellies, blasting away like the bullets were free and the last guy with any left was the loser. The piles of spent shell casings looked six inches deep in some spots. Down-range, there was a hillbilly's front yard of old appliances, cars and other targets. Several of the cars quickly disintegrated into orange fireballs, no doubt a result of some carefully placed gas cans. The rest were soon obscured by smoke and dust. The destructive force of these weapons was truly amazing. My first thought was of any veteran who has seen combat. I can't imagine such weapons aimed at me. After watching this fusillade for about 10 of the incredible 30 minutes it went on, we wandered over to a big pavilion, where those guns not currently in use — and every imaginable accessory — were being bought, sold and traded. It was there I saw the sign that said "machine gun rentals." This sign led to the smaller, "lower range," where an interesting assortment of automatic weapons was indeed for rent. At roughly a buck a bullet, I was all set to show some fiscal restraint. But, my wife said, "Oh, come on, you can't come all the way here and not shoot something." Gun smoke must be a hallucinogen, but who was I to argue? Within minutes, I was holding a loaded, fully automatic AK-47. I chose this firearm because, ever since the Vietnam war, it seems to be the gun of choice for our enemies. I wanted to see what it was like to shoot one myself. With my wife safely positioned to snap some action photos of Rambo Russ, I listened to about 30 seconds of instructions and then took aim at a rusty car. Though I just fired short bursts, my 30-round clip was quickly empty. No wonder so many bad guys like this gun — lightweight, minimal kick and frightening power. For the record, while certainly participants in a unique hobby, most of the owners and dealers didn't appear to be anarchist nuts or "gun culture" extremists. I suspect you'd find the same level of fanaticism among serious Hummel collectors, "Star Trek" enthusiasts or even college basketball fans. They were extreme about safety, though. Orange-shirted security guys were everywhere, and everyone handled the guns like the very expensive and dangerous weapons they are. They were to "normal" guns like NASCAR race cars are to regular autos — for use only in very controlled surroundings — and a lot of fun to watch. "What is it with guys and guns anyway?" asked my wife, after we got back to our own little DMZ. Yes, other than one woman in camouflaged pants, calmly pumping rounds into a refrigerator, the shooters were all men. I think the answer is, "Guys just like to blow stuff up." While it pales in comparison, I remember loving to bomb my little army men with firecrackers when I was a kid. Every guy I've since told about my experience wants to go next time. Okay, but we gotta get there early enough to see that guy fire his cannon!witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ahegeman 0 #2 February 16, 2005 That just brings a tear to my eye.--------------------------------------------------------------- There is a fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'. --Dave Barry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #3 February 16, 2005 Ah, full auto. I'm living in the Great State of Washington these days, where there are state laws prohibiting full autos. Oh well, I can barely keep up with my reloading as it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randomdude 0 #4 February 16, 2005 remember, those are the weapons of choice for criminals.... I live in a curio and relic state now, or else it would be "how long do I have to save for an M16?" Knob Creek is a hell of a place to go. Anybody who goes and doesn't testdrive a Thompson doesn't have a hair on their @$$. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #5 February 16, 2005 Aha, the only argument that I just can't challenge. Guns are fun to shoot. -------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #6 February 16, 2005 I could argue sex is a good thing. And men should have the remote control. yeah, so that's all I got, but I dare you to disagree.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #7 February 16, 2005 AAAAHHHH YES, brings back fond memories of my old Uzi, although not full auto with a fast finger she was just as fun"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #8 February 16, 2005 Sounds like male nirvana! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MC208B 0 #9 February 16, 2005 What fun! Glad this guy enjoyed it! One night in Vietnam while guarding our hanger at Danang, I was very bored. Loaded my taped together 20 round magazines with all tracers and fired them all into the night sky in about 4 bursts, beautiful sight it was! Of course, pretty much fried my barrel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EricTheRed 0 #10 February 18, 2005 Guns may be cool but this thing looks like it could be a blast as well. http://www.slashbuster.com/images/Tree-shredding.wmvillegible usually Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BenHall 0 #11 February 18, 2005 Quoteremember, those are the weapons of choice for criminals.... . Actually, not that many gun crimes use auto's. It's mostly pistols I believe. Auto's just make the news more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #12 February 19, 2005 sarcasm is hard to read sometimes, but he knows damn well that cheap revolvers and minor caliber semiautos handguns are the firearms of choice for the vast majority of violent crime.witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
randomdude 0 #13 February 21, 2005 Yup, Kennedy nailed it. It's hard to get some people to understand that select- fire AKs aren't the deer hunting weapon of choice, nor what your local Crips rob stores with. Most crime is committed with cheap/stolen POS handguns, and .gov studies bear this out. Yet, those who can't fathom why anybody would want one of "those" guns, or any for that matter, feel the need to ban anything remotely politically correct. Makes me want to vomit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skycop 0 #14 February 21, 2005 I've been to the Knob Creek shoot. You want to talk about an eclectic mix of people. There are yuppies, hillbillies, and everything in between. I mean really, fully automatic weapons and explosives, does it get any better than that Hell one dude had a flamethrower!! They have all kinds of junk set up downrange, any piece of junk with an orange cone in front blows up when you shoot it........... "Just 'cause I'm simple, don't mean I'm stewpid!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EBSB52 0 #15 February 21, 2005 Ok, maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anything that made him a wuffo. Maybe he's an avid skydivier, but just didn't say so in the article. Hmmmmmm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #16 February 21, 2005 "Whuffo you shoot dem full auto machine thangies?"witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites